Why are some Ham Radio operators so polite? Differences between amateur radio countries

Why are some Ham Radio operators so polite? Differences between amateur radio countries


WARNING – COMPUTER GENERATED SUBTITLES ooh microphone hello and welcome to er – I forgot then – DX
DX Commander channel my name is Callum m0mcx and I had a really interesting email
from a chap called William Pietschmann was he ate Lima Victor I think better
check out she w 8l v he asked lots of questions and ideas for videos and stuff
but one of the things he did ask and I don’t know the answer so maybe we can
talk about it here he basically says what’s a difference is in similarities
video what’s the difference between a UK operator typical UK operator and a
typical USA but I’d like to bring in the VK and that said l boys into this as
well because I don’t but what I can say is because he he says you know he’s a UK
amateur any operator what they call in the US a UK ham more likely to belong to
his national organization well I think there’s it’s it’s split half and a half
there’s always those aren’t there who are aunty the organisation that’s a real
shame actually because I’ve seen some of the work they do for instance on the
planning side I first time ever actually logged into the bit where you you have
to login to on the RS GB or whatever is site you know members only area some
actually some really good stuff in them for 50 pounds a year or whatever it is I
thought that was personally I think it’s good value you know I don’t really care
about all the ins and outs I just think from pound a week it’s good
value you know because when the chips are down or you when you really need
that as nice you’re gonna get it someone is gonna help you out somewhere will you
also ask is there amateur radio operating the UK more likely to belong
to his local club I don’t think so but I just don’t know I mean that the club I
was in we had about 80 members and he’s not expensive you know it’s not the cost but there’s plenty of people I speak to
the iron in a club you know so whatever I’m not in a club you know well this is
my club she was me isn’t it but he he scratched
he plays finger in this or as I say all right we talked about the differences
between I see what’s all that it was between countries here and but what I
will say is that most amateur actors he does ask or saw gear does one have when
the UK were into low low slung bits of wire when I say low eight nine meters I
mean with VHF aerials we do get a problem with nobody seems to care if you
put a VHF you know white stick up on the chimney or whatever but you start
putting too much stuff in the garden a little man from the Planning Department
will be around from the local council because a neighbor will complain and
that’s happened to me but in fairness he came around I prepared all my notes
I gave him my notes I told him what I did how it worked that it was actually
just just a huge TV erial you know and in the end he said look if you can keep
it under the roof height from the road I don’t care so I used have a shelf up
yeah I remember after the lightning strike that took you down so I’ve got a
folder upstairs with my communications with between him and me
any facts you I got permission for a small tower that I can wind up when it’s
in use and wind down when it’s not in use but I’m not putting that in because
I live in a housing estate and yeah there’s a lot of crud and everything
else so I I hadn’t average you know workshop down the road and if I really
would want to do some big heavy radio well for six months a year can’t use
it’s freezing cold but anyway that’s beside the point
by muck around the radio here downside so hey whatever but that’s a question he
didn’t ask which really lit my bulb when I thought about it he kind of asked it
all oh by the way in terms of equipment yeah we’re into bits of wire effectively
g5 RVs do scan we do quite a lot of portable work in
the UK because we can actually get out and about and have some fun of notices
and very keen guys who do portable work and and in terms of gear the average
gear does either the boat anchor brigade you know the FT 101 said DS the TS 9
whatever is eight ninety I can’t remember I wasn’t there for into Kenwood
at that time I used to be a su man completely before I went Kenwood I just
we like the transmit audio to be honest okay it’s not all about receivers about
what it feels as well isn’t it but typically they have like a the the icon
the their little icon thing for about thirteen hundred pounds is it I don’t
know TS five nineties you know loads and loads of TS mm out there and I
see 90 100 I think it was that was quite a favorite for the for the VHF guys you
know small rotators this or g4 50s is it and 250 so far remember for fifties I
think small rotators maybe little VHF yagi now they’re too heavy to be honest
so of course in the UK were restricted only to 400 watts unless you’ve got what
we call an Nov which is a notice of variation which you can apply for and
you can apply for a Nov 2 2014 2 you’re not gonna you know have a go but because
DX commander limited and I have some land you know not far you know sort of
half a mile away from houses and it’s safe and everything else I do want to
apply for an Nov for my 1,500 watts down there because I’m selling DX commanders
to the US and people want to Pete I get questions like you know will it
will it do 1,500 watts witzy yes he will but I can’t I can’t prove it I want to
be able to do it you know right what’s the real difference I actually think the
real difference is in operators because I when I was down in Cornwall running a
pileup on 40 meters to the US I found managing the u.s. guys extremely easy
for so for instance you get a wall of call signs and I hear whisky – or well
that’s – William what’s the whiskey whiskey whiskey 8lv
okay so I might hear whisky eight and then I’ll lose the rest
and I’d say who’s the whisky eight please and then I get to whisky eights
maybe so I can then just pick it and that’s fine and I could say either kilo
for alpha Bravo Charlie I think I hear but I’m not quite sure because all the
watercourse sighs so who’s two kilo for ending Charlie silence Barry mine is two
or three hundred people trying to get through silence because I got it wrong
there wasn’t a K for ending charlie it was a K there was a K – any Charlie and
there’s a cave for alpha Bravo let’s say you know whatever and their discipline
you see of the operators now though people well don’t like the Americans
whatever right now as human beings there’s nothing you know we’re all the
same aren’t we really let’s face it and but as a body of people when it comes to
respecting and the discipline of radio procedure I absolutely love the
Americans for that reason I have the discipline is fantastic and when I hear
I hear a guy maybe in the UK maybe breaking a pile up you know he put on
his amplifier or he got lucky he broke a pileup and you’ve got this operator who
sounds as if he should frankly be in a bloody
you know not on the radio he’s so ill-prepared for what he’s trying to do
there’s addy expedition on a bloody island somewhere with a little generator
with the tide coming in and they is waffling away and then he wants to know
their cool sign everything else I get embarrassed there we are
really embarrassed thinking he’s representing my country
the VK in the settle boys they are down to earth as straightforward in and out
but if the band’s open they’ll be in for as long as you want and I really respect
them down under they’re fine operators as well and I think they got the the
balance right on respecting licensees although a member of a Facebook group on
my hidden profile where I tell him any friends are just in a number of groups
and apparently there was a bunch of guys on 3.58 last night going right over the
top of a QR Pete digital contest yeah we get them all don’t we who are the worst
I’ll let you decide however it is also embarrassing as a European British but
I’m still in Europe when UK is a very good D expedition operator he’s running
a pileup and he’s saying okay I’m only after this callsign or whatever is and
then inevitably this is gonna be Italy kilo 2 or whatever do you know what I
don’t know some Italian to do what’s his film and I’ve got Italian customers so
you know it’s just like all these things 99% of you Italian guys are probably
absolutely fine how do we get through to the 1% of them so just don’t obey any
sort of attica at all I just don’t understand why why is it so important
that he lets everybody know that he’s breaking protocol and he’s just going
over the top for this DX entity all right now so I’m not DX chases it so
happens I mean I like phone quality copies 200 miles away as my thing but
and yeah it’s good fun isn’t it so so there we are and I don’t know which
country you know is more addicted to the cluster maybe we all are I’m not
addicted to the cluster I like I was actually chewing around 40 meters one
night and I heard a guy gradually coming out the noise on seven one sixty I think
it was seven one yeah it just gradually came up turned out to be Indonesia so I
put the amplifier on he couldn’t hear me he was very quiet and he got my call
because it was nice clear frequencies he and I thought oh I know I’ll do and it
took me ages to put him on the cluster he didn’t have another cord until the
moment I put him on the cluster and then he had a wall-to-wall pileup which goes
to prove people aren’t tuning the toilet do we get these lovely very expensive
tuning knobs on the front of our radios and people forget to to chew up their
name it’s a shame really yeah William a lot of other questions which I
don’t want to confuse it all and but I will do them once though wouldn’t be
ready to have some contesting rules and how to get into contesting I think has
very good William and I think it needs need a structured film not one of my own
structured chats here and he likes the idea of a how-to video for the for the
back of radios but you might be out my league actually so there we are
but yeah William thanks email friend and try not if you can to send me emails
because I am polite and will respond and then if I promise anything I’ll probably
for the kids guess my orders have to come first and
I’m a little bit snowed under in that respect so there we are anyway got a new
camera set up tonight and a whole Shack by the way massive clear up today I’ve
literally backed the place and oh it’s in immaculate cuz I’ve got the baton to
coming around to the first time on Thursday night so there we are
lovely you’ve probably got some comments leave them down below and remember to
like the video if you’ve enjoyed it and if
like the might the sort of stuff I do by all means feel free to hit the subscribe
button and I’ll see you next time my name is Callum a very good day cheers William all the best mate hardoun
again another art to cut this bit out yeah you see me on that camera all
around

59 thoughts on “Why are some Ham Radio operators so polite? Differences between amateur radio countries

  1. Hi Callum, liked your RadCom article on the lightning strike. Would be interested in a video on your thoughts for station protection or the minimisation of damage. Just a thought.

  2. Yip agreed about QRO European stations. Nothing worse calling over and over and over everyone else until they are answered. I have a friend who has ditched his panadapter and cluster etc in favour of old skool tuning. Let's go back in time.. it's the future 🙂

  3. Callum what's funny is here in the US, is I am hearing the same complaints of lids ( poor operators ) now as when I started 35 years ago.I believe it's just human nature.
    If one group swears by something another will swear at it, is my take on clubs and organizations. 73

  4. Callum, Many thanks for your spot-on commentary. Very good topic… What kind of cameras are you using there if you don't mind me asking? All the best…. de K4WRF

  5. Good topic. My rant about operating practices begins…..Minimum power required to establish reliable comms. I hear some HAMS here in the US complaining about poor operating practices from some of the newer HAMS but turn a blind eye to their buddies cranking up a 1000 watt amplifier to communicate from ALABAMA to MISSOURI. Really? Anymore I try to operate Monday thru Friday due to all the CONGESTION on Saturday and Sunday. I have made contact with several UK operators and have always found them to be very nice and professional. Cheers, Jeff W5IJH

  6. Mostly agree with you on this one and I love my Kenwoods. However it should really be about the Rx and how the operator uses it not just Tx power. As for the IK2 ### example yep they are amongst the works. I think it takes a strong regulator to help in improving the situation, which Italy does not have and neither does the UK. I try to ignore them, I was running a special event for RAFARS and had persistent Italian at QRO I was calling stations in by the numbers and he was constantly calling out of turn. When it was his numbers turn I made him wait and then when I had no more I mentioned his call sign as not getting a call for not adhering to my instructions. Made no difference to him but I felt better 😉

  7. Hi Callum,
    We all have the same kind of operators as you described, but it is the polite and courteous ones that make it all enjoyable and worthwhile.

    When I wanted to install a tower in 1979, all the township engineer wanted to know was the specs for the concrete base and if the tower fell it would need to fall within the property line. I was looking to buy a 77 foot Wilson tubular freestanding crankup, but had to settle on a 45 foot tower if it was to fall within my property line when fully extended. I have been happy with the 45 foot tower and last summer had it down for reconditioning as well as my triband yagi. 73 WB3BJU

  8. All amateurs are supposed to be diplomats. But, we lose sight of this in a pile up on a rare contact.

  9. Another great video. Agree with most of what you said. I too am embarrassed by the standard of some operators, both UK and European. It’s the same in the real world though, there are some who believe the “rules” don’t apply to them, be they individuals or nations, but you can always rely on the Italians when you need a QSO just to test some equipment.

    BTW, how dare you put your orders before all of your YouTube fans? Sort your priorities. 😏(Hope the emoji conveys the vocal tone correctly).

  10. Lots of interesting questions and I would guess, hard to give definitive answers to most?

    Just drilling down a little; as a long time CW op' , I'd suggest that, certainly from my own experience and observations, that CW op's, on the whole, are usually really polite and tend to obey the 'norms' with regards to Amateur Radio etiquette… maybe because of the nature of the typical CW QSO and the discipline required, but for the most part, CW contacts and op's tend to be pretty 'civilised' ?

    Then again, like all walks of life, you find the exceptions and I guess that's why I'd suggest it's hard to come up with definitive answers to the questions that you were asked…. but none the less, interesting stuff. Cheers, 73

  11. I have heard the DX station work a station that was causing a nuisance to get them out of the way which then caused absolute mayhem, Sadly some people either dont like rules or assume they dont apply to them. I have managed to bag a few rare DX even as a mobile just by sitting and tuning around, You never know who you might hear while tuning its a lot more fun than hunt and peck at the cluster.

  12. He wondered on the airwaves

    who was the fairest of these radio-knaves ?

    The Colonials he quite liked

    even when their output spiked

    They are polite and respectful, he claimed

    not like the British, some, mentally maimed

    But then, the man from the Council came around

    What's that spike in the air that is so Heaven-bound ?

    He would not have his question answered with disdain

    and threatened : These pikes in the sky shall be slain!

    Please good Sir, leave my antenna be !

    T'is for HAM use, you see?

    No pleading would soften his stance

    Our Calumn did,'t stand a chance

    't Is a DX Commander and stay it will!

    Of Council-dwarfs Calumn had his fill !

    At your peril , go near it if you dare

    So the Council man was made aware

    if it disappears,by design,by fate or any other twist

    you council boys shall run into my fist

    So this tale of woe and sorrow does do end

    I hear the council man is on the mend….

    Kisses !

    Paddy

  13. Good stuff! Hey, make a vid of the band on Thursday. This week for me involves some Contesting eves – 70cms FM n SSB Tues, 80m SSB Wed & a lightweight 6m effort Thurs. Have a good week.

  14. Good points Callum , I've been lambasted in the past for using Sir during conversations , why should I call them Sir I'm asked , are they better than any one else , well no bit it's habit from using Radio offshore speaking to ships sparks and helicopter pilots and its almost always younger ops that bring it up , I see it just good radio etiquette .
    As for our IK2 dudes well they're not all bad , most memorable contact was with an older IK gent on 10m AM using 1w , the old guy was delighted .
    As for guys that try to bust a pile up with Mahoosive amounts of Watts then ask for the guys callsign , WTF is that about .
    Keep up the good work dude 🙂

  15. I'll never cease to be amazed how neighbors can be so over aggressive as to worry about other peoples yards/gardens take the time to not only care, but to call someone.

  16. This was a good one Callum. As a Technician Class (US) ham operator for 5 yrs but, only just beginning my adventures with transmitting for less than that with a Beofeng UV-5R with only NA-320A Triband HT Antenna 2M-1.25M-70CM (144-220-440Mhz), I plan to upgrade soon. From what I've seen from fellow Hammers who have been doing Ham Radio for awhile from they are willing to spend their time to make sure that someone like myself and those who have the interest not need do so alone. As for talking during transmission I always was afraid that I NN to learn the Ham Lingo. Not so. I had the backing of and reassurance from people who have been doing it for 5 – 40+ years. And people like yourself doing things like this on Youtube. To me this is what makes ham radio fun, interesting and bring the confidence in oneself, that you might, nay, are making a difference. There will be a day when SHTF then it will really matter. KG7GJM. Out.

  17. Wow, I'm famous for fifteen minutes! You even pronounced my name correctly!
    73 and All the Best!
    DE W8LV Bill Pietschman

  18. Gday Call, some good points made there.
    I totally understand the one person who doesnt know radio etiquette, and just cuts in or calls in when its not their turn, I know a few of them in Sydney.
    Mathew, VK2FBKR

  19. hahaha i read the same fb post on the QRP digital contest. Got a bit firey. But cheers for the sentiments for us VK/ZL operators. Keep up the great work Callum. I enjoy watching your content. DE VK6FCMF

  20. I'm new to HF but trying hard to learn the etiquette. Heard some operators you speak of this past weekend. Europe station calling into the US asking for Hawaii or Alaska and stations from the mainland were answering. I would have liked to make contact, but living in Washington, I kept my hand off the PTT. Thanks for discussing this Callum.
    Would love to see a bit of the band playing. Maybe you can give us a sample in an upcoming video.

  21. Thanks for nice video, What you think about low lost coax cable? like LMR-400 or LMR-600 or some hard line coax? Do you think is important? and what is the Pos of use it?

  22. Yes my name is adron Garretson just call me Chuck love you videos my man and I was wondering if there are those antennas that you build Ariel's as you guys would stay there if they are how can I get ahold of you and maybe I can arrange to acquire some of your equipment

  23. Yes I'm in town and interested in looking at your antenna products and I don't know how to get your Google account stuff so I can see what you have prep for products on my phone it's too small to see it would be helpful if maybe you could mail me out like a product list of things or maybe at Garrett Som 50 at gmail.com will be my email address and email me a list of stuff with maybe some pictures would be helpful

  24. Hi Callum,
    Thanks for the DX Commander that arrived on a Sunday! Hermes- hats off to you. Agree, USA are polite as are (in my opinion) UK stations are pretty good too.
    My personal gripe are the 'SPLEET Police' who sit on the DX frequency and take pleasure shouting down those who mistakenly call on said frequency on the DX station. Their radio enjoyment of the hobby must be nothing more than that. Sad to the extreme and causing even more QRM for those wanting that ATNO. Every week I am tempted to jump in and insult/chastise etc, but I don't because I have good etiquette – and, thankfully, so do most operators waiting and listening, otherwise we would have an escalation and complete jamming of the bands.
    Who are the 'spleet police' and who gives them the right to do what they do – they are certainly not commissioned by the DXpedtions.
    Anyway – that long -term installation of a DX Commander at a friends QTH – winter is now _(almost) past and I was wondering how that was going?
    Love the channel. Thanks for making it fun and educational.

    Conrad.
    M0VCB

  25. G'day Callum, I'm looking at your formula on 1/4 antenna for the CW section and found that your "Maths" is always longer for the 1/4 wave is there a reason for this? Is it the fold back on the wire easier to get to the right frequency? 73 de Dennis vk4oc

  26. Any operator who follows international radio etiquette, procedure and protocol is usually polite.

  27. im not part of the rsgb, the reason why im part of a club is because they are doing 70cm up to 9cm, as an m6 this helps me learn more about what i am more interested in,
    thanks for the content n banter! M6YRU from B32

  28. I don’t like to judge a whole “body of people” as you put it Cal but I’ve been a DX station and I can’t agree with your comments about the Americans (generally), they are amongst the WORST in my experience. We all know that Italy and Spain have some of the worst ops for ignoring etiquette and just continually shouting their callsigns in a pile up with fingers crossed. If you have to have a prize for the most polite nationality in amateur radio I would 100% give that to the JAs.

  29. I was a truck driver in the USA for over 40 years. I grand slam failed my last physical and will never drive again. after recovering from losing a career, I looked around and discovered ham radio. People are almost all under the belief that every place is like "my home town", and if it isn't, they need to fix that. driving 48 US states, my discovery is that all the local mindsets sound very much alike. People are all human, except for a few "superhuman people" who let you know that they are so right about everything I just smile and wave on my way out of their sight. I expect ham radio to be quite a bit like that.

  30. I learned radio procedures in the US Navy as a Radioman for 8 years. I stick to those procedures as a ham and have no problems with people being undisciplined. I've checked into nets that were a little rambunctious when I checked in and I "set the example" with "proper" radio procedures and people on the net will follow my lead. I've heard it done by other operators, too. I guess the moral of the story is if we set the right example for people to follow, they will.

  31. Enjoy the topic. Thks
    I wonder if some of the problem is with a lack of training. How many today just jump in and figure out what 'works' and no one ever corrects them when they do wrong.
    I'll be 'hoping' to get some on air tutoring when I get the HF rolling. So far the couple of club hams I ask a question of start with some dismissive platitude (which really doesn't address the issue) then go on and on for the rest of the night about their unrelated experiences. So I may have to try a different tack toward learning. It remains to be seen. Would love to see you do a series for those starting on HF, or at least practice and etiquette.

  32. hi there Callum, just a quick observation regarding US operators and pile ups, i was a operator for the GB1LBC station last year ,and was on 20m, and i had a pileup running,and i picked out K1##/qrp, calling me , i then asked only the Kilowatt 1 slash qrp to respond ,the band went quiet and the K1 /qrp came back to me he was running 5 watts on a hill in California ,and was over the moon with a 5 and 5 at 5 watts, and 5 and 7 when he turned up to 50 watts, similarlily i was giving a californian "big gun" station about half hour later 5/9 +10 on 400w with a quarter wave mono band vertical for 20m,but he was using 1.5kw and a mono band beam pointed straight @ me, you get some good some bad ops,all around the world, on ft8 ja stns are really patient,they will wait while you work 20 stns in front of them(personal ja pileup experience)

    keep up the good work Callum

  33. i hate to be the one to tell you this mate, but some nasty bastard has broke into your house while you were sleeping and fucked your hair up.. :O( you look like Ernie from Sesame Street

  34. As an American, I'm pretty blown away (and also appreciative on behalf of US hams, if I'm so allowed) by the compliment you paid us. In thinking about it, however, I will say that I think that discipline and courtesy has a lot to do with in which segment any particular amateur operates. I've noticed, not from my having done it myself but from sitting in with folks that have rigs capable of DX, that the guys (and gals, I suppose) who spend their time on HF, trying for long distance communication, DX'ing, contesting, etc. tend to be far more disciplined and courteous folk, in regards to observing etiquette on the radio, than say, the guys (and gals) who spend 100% of their time on VHF repeaters and who have no experience on HF. I actually ran across a guy recently on a local repeater around here on 2-meters that didn't know the phonetic alphabet! I was stunned, I literally didn't know what to say to the guy! I mean, just start with *how*, even on VHF, do you get by without it? And how can one have the curiosity and hunger for knowledge to get a ham ticket, and yet not have any interest in something as basic as phonetics? Anyway…all countries I think offer all types, imo, and with the 380-some-odd million people living in the US, we I think can certainly offer a decent number of all those types…good and bad. But it is encouraging, and I think a good thing, that the guys who run stations intent on reaching across the pond have overall been representing us well. Sorry for the ramble…cheers mate.

  35. Hey Callum,
    I am new to ham and I really wish you lived closer. I would love to sit with you and learn the ropes. I’m in the US and I’m a little nervous about my first contact for fear I may do it wrong and get yelled at by a “ pro”. Nervous because I will use the prohibited language! I also am a perfectionist and don’t want to get it wrong. Anyway, playing major catchup with all your videos which I love!

  36. Hey Callum. There has to be something in your opinion because i guessed every single one the same as you before i even watched the video.

  37. Really like your style of presenting. It’s very much like a chat about radios that then goes off on slight tangents. Just like a chat among mates. Thanks for using your time to do all these vids and please keep them coming Cal.

  38. Hi. The real FIDO-DIDO hehehe hehe that hair style 🙂 awesome . Hope we can QSO sometime….. on t-555. 18da112 Jimmy – 73s

  39. hi, i'm from Wisconsin. When i first clicked on your video i was skeptical. Then i watched the first couple seconds when you bumped the radio… I was about to turn you off but then i heard you talk. You are very smart and your voice is relaxing to listen to. i just subscribed. I also like how you mess with the camera angles. You are very interesting! Keep up the informative videos

  40. I've seen a few dozen videos of yours now and I would say in about 60% of the ones I've seen you knock into something. How are you not a walking bruise? 😀

  41. Calum, I sent an E-mail to Marc Tarplee N4UFP, our ARRL SC Section Manager – about the news published recently concerning 2M reallocation push from the French… He was kind enough to send a response to my question… Looks like we have a threat, not immediate, but there none the less… Just wanted to share with the club.

    Hi John,

    Below is an article from the ARRL news feed that provides some information about the 2m reallocation. The proposal to reallocate 144-146 MHz came from the French delegation to WRC-2023 and met little pushback from other members of CEPT Project Team A, except for the German delegation.

    The IARU opposes the French recommendation, and because the ARRL is part of the IARU, they are also involved in the effort to protect 2m. This proposal is particularly vexing to IARU members in ITU Region 1 (Europe) because it would eliminate the entire 2 meter band in that region.

    At this point, the reallocation of 2m is an agenda item proposal. The goal of the French delegation is to get reallocation of 2m on the agenda for the 2023 World Radiocommunication Conference. That conference is four years away, and even if this proposed agenda item actually makes it on to the agenda, there is no guarantee that conference delegates would go beyond discussion to actual rulemaking.

    I would sum it up this way: this is a potential threat. It is important, but not urgent. The ARRL, through the IARU, will continue to push back against inclusion of this item on the agenda for 2023.

    As I hear more from ARRL, I will keep you in the loop.

    73,

    Marc N4UFP

    No Strong Opposition to 144 – 146 MHz Reallocation Proposal at CEPT Meeting

    06/25/2019

    A World Radiocommunication Conference 2023 (WRC-23) agenda item proposing to study a range of frequencies, including potentially reassigning 144 – 146 MHz as a primary Aeronautical Mobile Service allocation, drew little opposition at a meeting of the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) Project Team A. The team is responsible for some aspects of CEPT WRC positions, and the meeting was held June 17 – 21 in Prague, Czech Republic. Introduced by France, the proposal targeting 144 – 146 MHz would be part of a broader consideration of spectrum allocated to the Aeronautical Mobile Service. Another issue addressed during the meeting concerned the sharing of the Amateur Radio 1240 – 1300 MHz band with Europe’s Galileo GPS system.

    “We hear only one admin[istration] (Germany) opposed the 144 MHz proposal — no one else,” the UK Microwave Group tweeted following the meeting. Otherwise, it has been carried forward to the higher-level CEPT Conference Preparatory Group (CPG) meeting in August.

    The International Amateur Radio Union (IARU), which was represented at the Prague meeting, expressed “grave concern” to any proposal that would include 144 – 146 MHz in the proposed Aeronautical Mobile Services agenda item. That comprises the entire available 2-meter band in ITU Region 1. IARU has pledged to make every effort to fully protect Amateur Radio interests and seek the support of regulators for their view.

    IARU Region 1 President Don Beattie, G3BJ, said prior to the meeting that the IARU would “energetically” promote its opposition in Regional Telecommunications Organizations (RTOs) and the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) “to obtain assurances that the spectrum will remain a primary allocation for the amateur services.”

    The 144 – 146 MHz band is allocated globally to the Amateur and Amateur Satellite services on a primary basis, and is the only globally harmonized Amateur Radio VHF band. A widely used segment of the Amateur Radio spectrum, 2 meters supports a broad base of terrestrial users, repeater systems, and satellite stations, including the International Space Station.

    According to the meeting minutes, the proposal provides no justification for targeting 144 – 146 MHz, and the IARU believes that sharing with airborne systems likely would be difficult and lead to constraints on the development of the Amateur and Amateur Satellite services there. IARU suggested that alternative proposals might be developed that could provide further spectrum for the aeronautical applications without impacting this Amateur Service spectrum.

    IARU is expected to brief member-societies, requesting that they discuss the French proposal with their governments in advance of the August CEPT-CPG meeting. France could seek to introduce the same proposal to study 144 – 146 MHz for aeronautical use into other RTOs.

    Meanwhile, further discussion on the 23-centimeter band study proposal is anticipated prior to the Conference Preparatory Group meeting in August. The proposal was raised in the wake of reports of interference to the Galileo navigation system, but IARU has said it’s aware of only “a handful of cases” of reported interference to the Galileo E6 signal on 1278.750 MHz. Work on this issue will continue in other specialized CEPT forums in the interim.

  42. Never used a dx cluster in 40 year's. I just tune around and call CQ. Clusters to me were irrelevant , but they have become the Bible for many since the internet arrived making cluster access a lot easier. Fortunately I do not need them. I do well enough. Must confess I do have a curiosity look just to check propagation. Certainly not a twiicher . Hi ha ha Hi.

  43. Radio, mines a mans radio, none of your girlie stuff Kenwood TS820, local club NOT likely Mr,, us British in the main are so polite it's unreal, not only in radio, observation at hotel abroad all us English que, where as Johnny foreigner, well they just pile in, massive shouting lump at the checking counter, how many have experienced this.

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