UHOH! Shane Gillis Andrew Yang SNL Controversy, Lilly Singh’s Mixed Reviews, & The GM Strike


– Sup you beautiful bastards! Hope you’ve had a fantastic Tuesday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show and let’s just jump into it. And the first thing that
we’re gonna talk about today, I can’t believe we’re having
to talk about this again and since apparently
everybody else on the internet is scared to say it, once again I will preach
it from the rooftops, racism is bad. (uplifting music)
(crowd cheering) I mean, it was an honor
just to be nominated. No, but the reason I’m
doing this bit again is because of this controversy surrounding Saturday Night Live. As you might have seen last Thursday, you had SNL announcing
three new cast members for its upcoming 45th season: Shane Gillis, Chloe
Fineman and Bowen Yang. And initially it was actually Yang that had most of the spotlight. There was a lot of praise pouring in, people excited for him to be the only Asian-American
regular on the show. Also joining Kate McKinnon as one of the show’s two openly gay regulars. But then the focus shifted to Shane Gillis over the past few days, and that is because of
a series of podcasts that he made with fellow
comedian Matt McCusker called “Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast.” One of the first of these
clips that went viral was Gillis talking about
Asian people living in cultural areas like Chinatown. – All right, no one said anything. – Let the fucking (beep) live there. And the translation
between you and the waiter, it’s just such a fucking hassle. It’s like, can you, I’m pointing at it. Like this is the fucking nooder. – Which actually on the
note of the video being out there in the world, when this story started to break, Gillis actually deleted all the videos from his YouTube channel. But of course, copies were soon posted, there were clips all over the place, and so in those now
not-so-secret podcasts, Gillis can be heard making
comments about Latino people, Middle Eastern people, Jewish people. You also had people sharing a clip from a different podcast
where reportedly on May 27th, Gillis seemingly used slurs directed at Democratic Presidential
candidate, Andrew Yang. – [Gillis] Give me your
next candidate, Dems. Jew, (beep), next. Actually, they are running a Jew (beep). – You also have people
calling Gillis homophobic after uncovering a podcast where he repeatedly used an anti-gay slur. In one of those instances,
he uses the slur right after doing a caricatured
Middle Eastern accent, all while criticizing comedians who talk about their depression
in their stand-up routines. – [Gillis] Those guys are
fucking gayer than Isis. At least Isis is out there like, “For me, we need to get pussy “after we blow ourselves up,
we get a bunch of pussy.” These white (beep) comics, they’re like, “I’m just sad ’cause life’s hard “and like, it turns out, and I’m gay.” – And with all of this happening, you had a co-owner of a comedy theater that Gillis used to
perform at telling Vulture, “Good Good Comedy Theater
stopped working with him “within the past few years
because of racist, homophobic “and sexist things he’s
said on and offstage.” Now, later on Thursday, we saw Gillis kind of
apologize on Twitter, writing, “I’m a comedian who pushes boundaries. “I sometimes miss. “If you go through my 10 years
of comedy, most of it bad, “you’re going to find a lot of bad misses. “I’m happy to apologize to anyone “who’s actually offended
by anything I’ve said. “My intention is never to hurt anyone “but I am trying to be
the best comedian I can be “and sometimes that requires risks.” Although I will note with those that were not happy with Gillis here, there were criticisms
because it’s not like a lot of this was from 10 years ago, with a number of them being
from the past two years and notably the most recent, seemingly, at least according to reports, is that Andrew Yang clip from May. The main point, the
reactions and the debate, they continued over the
weekend until yesterday when you had SNL put
out a statement saying, “After talking with Shane Gillis, “we have decided that he
will not be joining SNL “We want SNL to have a variety of voices “and points of view within the show, “and we hired Shane on
the strength of his talent “as a comedian and his
impressive audition for SNL. “The language he used is offensive, “hurtful and unacceptable. “We are sorry that we did
not see these clips earlier, “and that our vetting process
was not up to our standard.” Right, so you have the show
pulling Gillis’s offer. You then had Gillis making
another statement, writing, “It feels ridiculous for comedians “to be making serious public
statements, but here we are. “I’m a comedian who was
funny enough to get SNL “That can’t be taken away. “Of course I wanted an opportunity
to prove myself at SNL, “but I understand it would
be too much of a distraction. “I respect the decision they made. “I’m honestly grateful
for the opportunity. “I was always a mad TV guy anyway.” And among the people
responding to this news, we saw former cast members
and an SNL host chime in. You had Sandra Oh, who hosted the show earlier this year, saying, “Glad to see @nbcsnl decision “to not legitimize/give platform “to purveyors of racist
homophobic content. “Risks? “Lazy ass unoriginal.” You also had the likes of David Spade talking about the oust with guests on his Comedy Central late night show. Notably there you had
those guests bringing up SNL’s past history with racist skits, with them specifically referencing John Belushi portraying a
Samurai back in the 70s. In the 90s, you had Mike
Myers playing a host on a Japanese game show skit where people cut off their fingers, and with Spade himself saying. – I think when I was younger on SNL, when you get hired, the first move wasn’t to
rifle through your past to make sure you get fired right away. – You also had Rob Schneider, who was on the show in the 90s, saying, “Dear Shane Gillis, “As a former SNL cast member, “I am sorry that you had the misfortune “of being a cast member during this era “of cultural unforgiveness “where comedic misfires are subject “to the intolerable inquisition of those “who never risked bombing
on a stage themselves.” Notably there, he was challenged by another user who wrote, “But he knew what he was doing. “He wasn’t treading the
line, he was crossing it. “He was using derogatory
and racist language “on a public platform. “He should accept the
consequences and learn from it.” To which Rob Schneider responded, “I felt sad when I saw the clip. “But I was even more
sad that he went there “and it wasn’t funny. “Just an ugly conversation. “He has the right to say it, “cancel culture is wrong
but people have the right “to call racist things racist as well.” And soon after adding,
“Last thought on this. “There’s a difference
between exposing truths “through Free Speech and just being ugly. “It’s not okay to say racist things “under the guise of comedy. “Just because you have a mic in your hand “doesn’t make the racist things
you say any less racist.” Following those comments,
we saw a number of users sharing old photos of Rob Schneider dressed as people from different cultures. All right, so people seemingly saying, “Who are you to criticize?” Also, very notably, you had Andrew Yang jumping into the mix, with Yang saying on Twitter, “Shane, I prefer comedy
that makes people think “and doesn’t take cheap shots. “But I’m happy to sit down and
talk with you if you’d like. “I think we have, as a society, “become excessively
punitive and vindictive “concerning people’s
statements and expressions “we disagree with or find offensive. “I don’t think people
should be losing jobs “unless it’s truly beyond
the pale and egregious.” And then also adding, “It’s also the case that anti-Asian racism “is particularly virulent “because it’s somehow
considered more acceptable. “If Shane had used the N word, “the treatment would likely
be immediate and clear.” And it appears that that message may have resonated with Gillis because Yang has said that the two will be sitting down with each other. And so that’s where we are right now, but with all of that said, I pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think it was right or
SNL is smart in removing Gillis or do you think it’s maybe hypocritical that SNL is getting rid of
Gillis given their past, or is it not, because the
sketches being referenced are decades old? Yeah, I’d love to know
your thoughts on this. I mean, as far as how this goes forward, I know that I’ve seen a
lot of people cheering that Gillis isn’t getting this job, they think that it’s gonna
be bad for his career. I really don’t think so. This has potentially given
him way more attention than he would have gotten as being kind of just one
of the new guys on SNL. He’s been gaining followers
since this started. He could definitely
ride this wave of people that see this as PC culture run amok. I mean, I would honestly be surprised if this whole situation doesn’t get him thrust onto The Joe Rogan Experience and/or maybe some other large podcast, but there’s definitely gonna
be an audience for him, especially if other comedians
like Tony Hinchcliffe, who has vouched for how
funny Shane is, are correct. Yeah, I guess give it
enough time, we’ll see, but of course, once again, I’d love to know your thoughts on this. But from that, I wanna share
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description down below. Then in interesting
internetty/mainstream business news, we had Lilly Singh. And Lilly Singh, if you don’t know, is a longtime YouTube
creator, a popular creator, and you may remember when
we last reported on this, she got a Late Night show with NBC. And the reason we’re
talking about it today is that it launched last night. And, as one might expect, there
are a number of reactions. You know, we saw praise and support from a number of her fans, you know, excited that she was kind
of shaking up Late Night, excited that, because she’s different from what we’ve seen from Late Night, she can tell different jokes. Also support from fellow creators like Timothy DeLaGhetto,
Adelaine Morin, iJustine. You also had articles popping up, like this one from the
Metro, with the headline, “Lilly Singh takes down the boys club “in the premiere of her
talk show A Little Late,” Mashable giving us, “Lilly
Singh’s feminist music video “slays late night stereotypes
on the first A Little Late,” but at the same time there was criticism of the show and content, with some of the top
comments on the videos that they posted to YouTube reading, “Wow, race bait much? “This was disappointing
but more so disturbing,” “That was unfunny and
extremely uncreative.” Another writing and asking, “All the jokes are based on color? “On her first episode? “Was it deliberately written
by a saboteur of hers?” And then some who seemed supportive but felt like the content fell short. You know, as far as that content, it included a kind of a skit
and rap at the beginning. ♪ Hello, my name is Lilly
and I ain’t a white man ♪ ♪ My skin got some color
and it ain’t a spray tan ♪ ♪ I know you used to only
Jimmies in the spotlight ♪ ♪ But I’mma throw some melanin
up in your Late Night. ♪ – She also had an opening monologue. – But I get it, because
it’s also tough for you. Listen, I understand that for some people, (coughs) white people, seeing someone like me
host a show is terrifying. #NotMyCarsonDaly. – She also had Mindy Kaling on as a guest. – I am so thrilled to be your first guest. Only for you would I be
here at 1:30 in the morning. I don’t know who’s watching my child, and I don’t care. – Rainn Wilson also hopped by. – What is that? I don’t recognize that sound. – It’s Birkenstocks! It’s Birkenstocks walking
across the floor of an REI to go buy a Patagonia jacket. It’s a white noise machine. – Okay, I get it. – Right, and I’ll link to the videos they have up on their YouTube channel so you can come to your own conclusions based on the full content, but, as far as my personal opinion on it, I’m reserving it for the kind
of first one to three months. If you’re a fan of Late Night shows, even daytime shows, where a show is now compared
to where it started, it’s usually vastly different. Right at the beginning, it’s about one, introducing yourself,
differentiating yourself from other people in the marketplace, three, establishing the content, figuring out what works,
what doesn’t work, what feels more comfortable, authentic. Right, and I say that because
I believe at this moment, it could be incredibly
easy to criticize something as being one-note, but
if you kind of pull back, right, the picture becomes bigger. I see this as kind of the first
note in a much larger song. Granted, time may reveal
that the song is one-note, but I guess, to kind of
close out this analogy, I guess I’m just waiting
for the beat to drop before I also drop an opinion. That said, from a just pure analytics, marketing, business
standpoint, I am so fascinated. I mean, you have a lot of
people kind of crapping on this show, because they’re like, it’s on at 1:30 in the morning. It’s not a big deal. But it really is. You know, yes, on TV, you’re
gonna have live viewership, but the whole system has evolved. You know, whether it be
someone watching on TV, you know, they DVR it, when they wake up, they
watch it, or YouTube. Probably the most symbiotic relationship we’ve seen evolve has been
Late Night and YouTube. I have watched more Late Night TV thanks to YouTube than ever before. They chop up the content,
they upload it to YouTube, they give you the ultimate
a la carte experience, each piece having the
potential to blow up. With Lilly Singh and this show, that is more apparent than ever, since they actually
premiered it on YouTube before it aired on TV. Yeah, I guess the main
point here is I’m excited to see the successes and
failures that stem from this and just how the ecosystem
in general changes. And then let’s talk about
the big General Motor strike, which if you do not know,
is entering its second day. It is a very massive deal
in the auto-industry, and that’s because, in addition to there being nearly 50,000
employees that are striking, and reports saying that
that could cost the company up to $90 million a day, it’s also because this is the first strike led by US autoworkers since 2007. Notably that strike was
also led by GM workers, lasting about three days. But that said, as far as the strike now, which is taking place
across dozens of factories and facilities in nine states, it reportedly started
because, over the weekend, GM and the United Automobile Workers Union couldn’t settle on a
collective bargaining agreement and the UAW’s Vice
President, Terry Dittes, announced they would not be extending the current agreement from 2015 that expired on Saturday night, and that’s reportedly
because the workers’ requests were not met in their negotiations and in the statement he said, “While we are fighting for better wages, “affordable quality health
care, and job security, “GM refuses to put hard-working Americans “ahead of their record
profits of $35 billion “in North America over
the last three years. “We are united in our
efforts to get an agreement “our members and their families deserve.” Union leaders then met
and planned a strike, starting Sunday at midnight, with employees demanding fair wages, affordable healthcare, their share of profits, job security, a defined path to permanent
seniority for temps. And following the demands or the requests, whatever you want to
call it, GM responded, and in fact on Sunday they
publicly shared this offer, which they said would give
over $7 billion in investments and over 5400 jobs. It would also boost wages and benefits, with wage or lump sum increases in every year of the four-year contract, an improved profit-sharing formula, and new coverage for
things like autism therapy, chiropractic care and allergy testing. But obviously, because we’re
talking about it today, GM workers, or at least the Union, they still wanted more, as they proceeded with the strike, with Dittes adding in a statement, “We stood up for General Motors
when they needed us most. “Now we are standing together
in unity and solidarity “for our Members, their families “and the communities
where we work and live.” And yesterday we also saw
GM saying that negotiations were back on the table with the UAW, with the company saying, “Our goal remains to reach an agreement “that builds a stronger
future for our employees “and our business.” And with all of this happening, we’ve seen a fair amount of
support behind the workers, with numerous politicians tweeting out, applauding the workers, with the likes of Representative
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeting, “Incredibly inspired
by GM’s almost 50,000 workers “for having the courage to strike “for the dignified work they deserve. “In a time of record profits, “workers should prosper, not suffer. “That’s why unions play a key role “in an economy that works for everyone.” The Democratic Presidential
candidate Andrew Yang tweeting, “Unions and the UAW have been
a force for worker equity “and fair treatment for decades “even as our economy has grown
more inhuman and punishing. “GM should value its workers fairly “and compensate them what they deserve.” And I mean, as far as how
the employees are doing now, ’cause, right, we talked
about the consequence for the company, but
there are consequences for the employees. For example, according
to a Fox Business report, strikers have to wait until day 15 to receive their Assistance Pay, which is a pay that strikers can receive from the Union while they’re striking and not at their jobs, but a key note there is, reportedly, that comes to just $250 a week, which would barely cover rent in Detroit, which is the city that hosts
a lot of GM’s employees. And regarding that, one
employee told Fox Business that the one thing she’s afraid of, “is that we might be here for a while, “and we can’t make it on $250 a week. “You know, GM might not want to budge. “So I’m just here trying to
prove a point, that’s it.” Ultimately, that’s where we
are with this story right now. It’s gonna be interesting to see how long this strike will last. This, of course, has the
potential to be devastating to both sides, obviously
to different degrees. And so, of course, like with
everything we talk about, I’d love to know your thoughts on this. And that’s where I’m
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