This is How Matt D’Avella Works

This is How Matt D’Avella Works

– Hey what is up guys? And welcome to a new series
that I am for now calling This is How I Get Stuff Done. And I’m here with my friend and competing beard model on the internet, Matt D’Avella.
– It’s true, it’s true. – You may know him from his channel, what? Matt D’Avella, right? – Matt D’Avella,
– Yeah it’s very simple. (both laughing) Where he’s got a lot of videos on habits, productivity, minimalism is something that you focus on for the most
part I would say, right? – Mm-hm, yeah minimalism
is definitely kind of, that’s definitely where I kind of formed my initial start on YouTube was talking about simple living. – And you came to YouTube from
the documentary world, right? – Yeah.
– You’ve got a documentary on Netflix with the minimalists, who I’ve actually met once before. – Yeah. – Yeah they’re really cool guys. – I think I was either
watching a video of yours or read a blog post where you were talking about that experience of kind
of seeing the minimalists and meeting up with Collin, right? – Yeah it was in Des
Moines and we got burritos. It was an excellent night. So what I want to do with this series is sort of explore how other insanely productive people get things done. Kind of dig into their processes, the systems they use,
all that kind of stuff. And you’re my guinea pig. (laughs) – This is the first one. (laughs) – This is the first one.
– Amazing. – We’re just going to
see how it turns out. And I guess the first thing
I want to start with is, just sort of getting an
overview of what you, so what do you say you
do here, essentially? – Yeah so, I’m a film
maker, that’s the craft. I make one video every
week for my channel. I also have a podcast that I release on a usually weekly basis. – Somewhat weekly basis. – Yeah I was consistent
for about a year and a half releasing a podcast every single week. Lately it’s I’ve just been experimenting and trying some different models out. But I would say the core of what I do is just one eight to 10
minute video every week on my YouTube channel. – Okay, is there anything
else that’s sort of ancillary to that, do
you have like a blog, or a newsletter? – Yes, so yeah.
– Freelance composition. – Like everybody else I have social media, I’ve got the newsletter. – Okay. – And I have like I said the podcast. I would say when I’m
really looking and planning at the beginning of the year what channels and mediums
I want to focus on. I would say the two big ones, one is definitely the YouTube channel. And that’s just from the
overall response and reception of the channel itself, and also just what I love to do most. And then I would say the runner up is either the podcast or the newsletter. ‘Cause the newsletter is
generally once a week. Again, I’m not as strict with that. I don’t let myself slip
up very often at all with the YouTube channel. Like that’s the thing I
have to release a video every single week. I take a few weeks off every
year, or a little bit more, maybe like three or four weeks total in the year that I might take off. But overall, those are
kind of my main channels that I create for. – And when you take time off do you just not publish during those times? – Sometimes, sometimes I don’t.
– Or do you have videos in the can. – Yeah, sometimes I do
have video in the can. – Okay.
– I think the one thing that I have learned is that I can put a lot of pressure on myself
to keep getting ahead, and ahead, and ahead. And the problem with that is
that you can never get ahead. There’s always–
– It’s always catches up with you. (laughs)
– Exactly. So I will get to a point
where, I was four weeks ahead, I took a really long two
and a half week vacation, and I felt amazing. I just felt so good about
getting that far out, and then when I came back from vacation, all my runway was gone. – Yup, yup.
– And I’m like I had to start over and I was
just so bummed out about it. And it was hard to restart again. So I’ve started to pull that pressure back a little bit on myself
and say, you know what? What if instead of going
four weeks, six weeks, and just trying to always get ahead, what if I just created in the moment. And it was just week to week,
or maybe two weeks most, and not feeling like I
always had to get ahead. And that’s helped such
much with my sanity. – There’s a certain beauty to that, too. I think there’s like this preoccupation with getting ahead to
the point where you’ll never have to work again,
maybe that’s the fantasy. There is a certain beauty to just knowing you have to get up and
do your craft every day. – Yeah, I do think that that’s something that we kind of idolize in
our head is this idea of I can just sit back and relax, and I won’t have to do anything. I think there is an element of it that in the short term it takes
pressure off yourself. At least to have one or two weeks ahead. – Yeah. – But I do really like releasing
more closer to the moment. I just finished up a video two days ago and I release it today. And that to me, I feel
closer to the project, I feel closer to the feedback that I get, so I can understand how people
are responding to it more. But when your four to six weeks ahead, it gets to the point where
you’re just kind of like pushing it out there,
you know what I mean? It’s more like a factory
and less of an art. – So you briefly mentioned
that when you sit down to plan, you’re looking at the year. Do you actually plan
a whole year in ahead? What is your planning process
for all of your different channels like and how
far in advance is it? – Yeah so I usually kind of put together a business strategy plan around
the beginning of the year that’s usually when it feels right. But I’ll usually recalibrate
six months into the year. But I basically kind of
draw up a notes document on my Mac, and I just work through what are the main channels and the mediums that I want to focus on? I used to in the past
focus on growth metrics, but we were talking about
this before where it’s like, you could always just keep wanting more, and more and more. Generally I get pretty happy with like, I’m totally content with
where I’m at right now with the numbers. So, these days I don’t include that. But it’s just like what do
I want to get out of it? What are my expectations
for the kind of content I want to create, and the kind of message that I want to put out there? What are the topics I want to talk about? And it’s usually no more than one page. This is just kind of the jump start, the direction of where
things are gonna go. – Okay. And when you sit down to plan, or when you sit down to take notes, is it always on your Mac? Is it always in the Notes app? – Yeah, so I use the Notes app on Mac. And I have it on my phone. A lot of times when I’m
out I’ll pop it open and I’ll take a couple of notes down. Sometimes what I actually do
is, productivity hack here, when I’m with Nat, my
wife, and we’re driving, I will ask her to text me an idea. I’m like, “Oh I got an idea. – Smart. – “Text me butt sweat.” (Thomas laughs)
And then she’ll just text me butt sweat, and then I’ll like, I’ll be oh yeah! And then I’ll forget what that was about. I’m like, “Why did you text me butt sweat? “That makes no sense at all.” But that’s how I’ll do it on the road, or if I’m driving. But otherwise I’ll just
open up the Notes app, and I’ll simply write
out a couple of notes of the idea that I have. I usually don’t go too long form. Sometimes if it’s like,
a really important idea I might actually put it on my to do as something that I have to do next. – And with to do lists,
what do you use for that? – Yeah, I use an app
called Teux Deux. (laughs) It’s t-e-u-x, d-e-u-x. – Oh, okay that one. – Yeah, really awesome. I found out about them probably
about five or six years ago, and I’ve been using them ever since. It is crazy simple. It’s when you open it
up on your web browser all you see are, I think
it’s five days of the week, and then it continually just shifts over. And then if something’s done
you obviously check it off, and then it grays out. And if you haven’t done it that day, it’ll just automatically
move to the next day. So it’s like, is it like Con-bon? It’s kind of like sideways then, it’s not just a straight
up lists of tasks? – Yeah it’ll be like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday, Friday. – Got you.
– It’ll basically be each day. So then I could also add
things to my to do list. Ah, I know I’m not gonna be able to get that done today, I’ll put
it tomorrow or the next day. I think one of the biggest things for me, is making sure that I’m not
overloading my to do list, and I’m not doing too much. So, I usually pick around two to three really important tasks
that I want to do that day. – And when you’re planning out your day, is it the night before,
is it a week in advance? How are you planning out individual days? – When I’m planning my days, it varies. I’m pretty type A. – Okay. – But there’s a part of me
that’s also kind of flexible and needs to go with things in the moment and what I feel like doing. I could have a task that says like, write next week’s video. But then when I wake up in
the morning, like I try, and I’m just like I just don’t,
I’m not inspired right now. You know what? I’d rather right now just
start editing my video that’s going live this week. Let me just work through
that a little bit, to feel a little bit productive, to kind of build that momentum of work. It’s still on my to do list
and I’ll probably get to it. But, at least I could,
it’s kind of I’m willing to be flexible in the moment if I have to. – So what you’re saying
is as one of YouTube’s productivity gurus, you
don’t stick to your plan. – I don’t, no, no, no! – This is a scandal. (both laughing) – 100%, you throw the plan out the window. Once you get, everybody
has a plan until you get punched in the face. I think Mike Tyson said that. – Yup. That was actually Michael
Scott, Mike Tyson. – Michael Scott said that, but you know. Most of the time I
would say I stick to it. What I also do is, I will
sometimes add my personal tasks to my professional to do list. A lot of people talk
about work/life balance. – So do you usually keep them separate? – No I don’t. – You always bring them–
– I always bring them all together. – That’s the thing for me, too. – But it’s not like, I’m not
putting every single thing that I would do personally on this list. But it’s like the big things. I will put the workout,
or the exercise routine that I’m doing for the gym. One thing that’s actually
surprisingly difficult to remember, when you’re going to the gym four, five days a week, to remember, did I work out biceps yesterday? Or did I do back, or legs? It’s very easy to kind of mix those up. So that way I know that it’s there and I can also keep track
of what I’m working out. But I will also, there’s
actually a separate section on the to do list where
you can add groceries and other stuff. – Oh cool.
– I will kind of, I don’t know, people believe
in the work/life balance that everything needs to be separated. But at least with the work that I do, I feel like my life is
so intertwined with it. Like I really love my work. I wake up every morning
really excited to work. And so I don’t mind
bringing my personal life together with it. – Yeah and the way I see
it, unless a corporation is forcing you to use a specific tool, like Outlook or something for your job. You know one tool can kind
of work for everything, as long as you know
how to split things up, whether it be by labels or
projects, or what have you, that works pretty well.
– Yeah. – So you use one to do app. Do you use like a calendar app as well? – I use a calendar app.
– Okay Just the regular Apple one? – I use Goggle, actually.
– Google, okay. – Yeah I use Google calendars.
And like within the calendar you would see that I have,
I usually create like a day event for each piece of
content I’m gonna create. – Okay.
– And it’s all under a different calendar, so it
has a different color label. So if I’m releasing a YouTube video, that would be yellow in the calendar. If it’s a Patreon exclusive video, it would be orange in the calendar. And then my podcast
would be a separate color in the calendar every Thursday. And those are like to me, and
actually what’s interesting about that, or not (laughs) depending on. I mean if you watch this far you probably will find this,
(Thomas laughs) this boring stuff interesting. But, this is also how I plan
I videos into the future. So right now I’m kind of like crazy ahead where I have three month’s
ahead of video ideas, for every Tuesday marked down. – That’s awesome. – Yeah, so it’s just the concept. I don’t have these video written, or scripted out, or anything. But I have a general idea of
where I want to go with it. And when I’m creating these videos, I have a nice balance. – Right.
– So it’s like all right, I have made a video about minimalism and why I think it’d be a
good time to kind of workshop an idea that would fit that. Maybe I can do one on habits. This year I’m doing every
month a 30 day challenge. – I know I’ve seen those. – So that one needs to be
slotted in at some point. And I try to figure out that balance. There is part of me that always feels like I should do two videos this week. (Thomas laughs) Now that I have three
months of ideas I’m like, ah it would be great to really put out just a couple extra videos in there. But I try to release that temptation. Because I just know that’s the fastest way to lead to burn out. – Have you tried it in the past? – Yes, I did about two months
of two videos every week. – Okay.
– And I just noticed that one of the videos would
always suffer in quality. My personal life would
certainly suffer in quality. And it just wasn’t worth it. – I definitely had weeks
where there tight deadlines, and I’ve gotten three
videos out in a week, and then I start to convince myself, oh I could do three videos a week, just like all these other big YouTubers. You know they’re so
productive, why can’t I be? It’s a recipe for burnout for sure. – That’s definitely where it comes from. It definitely comes from
seeing other people, and other channels. People who I admire, people who I really, I love their content. And I’m like, how the
hell are they putting out (Thomas laughs)
three videos a week? Like this is absurd the
amount of time and energy it goes to make these videos. And like one, you just never know what’s actually going
on behind the scenes. They could have a big team. They also could be really stressed out, and could be overwhelmed. It could be like not the best
thing for their own health. – Yeah.
– So I try not to measure myself based on other metrics. Whether it’s the number of
videos somebody else is creating, how much money somebody else is making, or how many views they’re making. And I try to just measure
it based on, am I happy? Do I feel content? Am I happy with how the
videos that I’m making, am I proud of what I’m making? Intrinsic versus
extrinsic, it’s hard to do, it’s easier said than done. But that’s kind of what I strive for. – Got you. Yeah I found that people on the internet are
sort of professionally good at making it look like it’s all easy. I know you put your video on anxiety, and a few other people
have kind of come clean with how stressed out they are. And being at VidCon you
hear a lot of just like, oh yeah it’s a complete
(laughs) just absolute disaster. – Yeah.
– And I’m always stressed out. But they make it look easy. – Yeah and I think that’s
something that I’m trying to work on, because a lot of my videos, just at least my film making style, it can be very clean cut, type A, it can look like I have
everything together. And I did have like Mattie
H, who we were talking about another awesome YouTuber. Like he commented on my anxiety video, and he’s like, “Dude I
never would have known “that you were going through this. “It looks like you’re
like somebody who’s just “got his s*** together.” I will say that a lot of times
I do have my s*** together, but we all have our lows,
and we all have these really challenging periods of our lives. And it doesn’t matter how
many subscribers you get, or how much money you’re making, you’re always gonna have
these really difficult things to get through.
– Yeah. – I think it’s like you
just try to be more open and honest about that
in each video you make. I’m not gonna do a video about
anxiety every single day. – (laughs) Still have it. – Yeah, exactly. But yeah right, it’s still going on! But I think it’s helpful
to be real and authentic, as much as that word is
thrown around these days, I think real authenticity helps. – Yeah, like there’s a
pressure to put on this strong face on the internet. I guess you’ve discovered
this, I’ve discovered this for my limited moments of vulnerability. When you do communicate
what you’re going through it actually helps people relate. ‘Cause I think that people you know, especially in the self help space can run the risk of making
it seem like everything’s too easy for them. Or like they have everything together. And then people watching are
like, what’s wrong with me? Why can’t I do that? Why I am not feeling nothing
but pure bliss all the time? And then they get to see like, oh, the people that I’m watching. They also go through these
same exact human struggles. – Yeah that was a turning point for me, I would say probably last year,
at the beginning of the year where I felt like I was hitting a wall in terms of what content I could create. I just was only talking about what I knew and what I was an expert in. – Yup. – And then I was like, I
only got two things. (laughs) I’ve got film making
and I’ve got minimalism. And the minimalism I’m
like am I an expert? I’m not Marie Kondo, but I
know enough to talk about it. And I’m like, but I need to branch out, and I’m getting a little bit board talking about these same things. – Yeah.
– So I was like, what if instead of being an
expert I was an experimenter? – Yeah.
– What if I just poked the box, and I just start
playing around with things? That’s where the experiments came from. Cold showers for 30 days, I’m
not an expert in cold showers. I don’t know who is,
I’m no Wim Hoff, right? But, I can actually explore
this, and I can learn about it. And I think that to me has made
the process more enjoyable, and it’s, again, taking
the pressure off to be the expert in everything. – Yeah, you’re learning along
with the audience essentially. I kind of hit the same wall. How many times can you make
a video about to do lists before you’ve said
everything you want to say? And then I had this realization like, “The Power of Habit,” was
written by a journalist. And he went out and he dug to get a story. And then that turned into a book. Okay, well maybe they
needed to be a journalist and go ask questions again. Go do interviews like this series. You can’t talk about only
what you know forever, especially when your job is
professional content creator. Because all of your time
is invested in that, instead of learning.
– People forget about that. (Thomas laughs)
People forget about the fact that the actual job is making videos. And they think that the job is
just knowing stuff. (laughs) – My job is minimalism.
– It makes sense. – You know eight hours a day
I’m getting rid of stuff. – I used to think about that though, too. I remember telling my friend who’s a self development life coach. And I was like, “Many I
envy you because your job “is to work on yourself. “And to write about self development, “and always be learning about that stuff.” And, it is true that that’s
a great place to be in, but it’s also true that that’s
a hell of a lot of work. And there’s also twice as much work as you think that is there. – Yeah exactly. So I want to talk about your
organization, essentially. The space you’re in, the
files, all that good stuff. Obviously the coolest
thing is what we’re sitting right behind, your closet here. Tell me a little bit about how you got your camera gear organized. – I love that you think the
coolest thing is my closet. – Dude, it is. It’s seriously.
– Is that you’re my kind of guy? (laughs) Natalie does not care about this at all, but this to me, I’m super proud of it. It’s funny, ’cause I don’t
know where all this stuff was before we moved into this new place. We just moved here a couple months ago. And this is the first time that I’ve had an actual studio to work
from that I can have my gear organized in
the way that I want it. It’s not shoved under the bed,
shoved in a closet somewhere. So I put a lot of thought into it. I’m like, how do I want this organized. I kind of went with this idea of what if I made my stuff be like the decor? It’s kind of the play on minimalism. What if I just laid
out all my camera gear, all my things on a pegboard? What if I laid my lenses out? Point from inspiration
from other YouTubers, other videos that I’ve seen online. But also just trying to
keep everything organized and easy to go, having my
battery station set up, so I can charge any battery
for any device I have. – Yeah. – Load it right up, that
saves me a ton of time. – That’s genius, ’cause
it’s always plugged in. And I’m guessing you probably
do like one on the charger at all times, so you have an extra to go? – Yeah, so usually when I finish a shoot I’ll take all the batteries, and then I’ll put them
on the top shelf there. And then I’ll load all the batteries up. There will still be a few
leftover that aren’t charged. I’ll go through, charge all those, maybe I’ll come back a couple hours later, take them off, put them in
where they’re designated (chuckles) in the draw below it. And then the cube goes from there and I take the batteries from the top and then I charge those. – Got you. – So then basically no uncharged batteries go in that drawer. (laughs) ‘Cause that’s a mess, when
you just look at a stack of 20 batteries and you’re
like which one of these is charged, which isn’t? It can be stressful and you have to go out and charge each one. For me the biggest thing when
it comes to organization, when I comes to setting up
my workspace, my desk space, even setting my files online. It’s like, how can I reduce
as much friction as possible? – Yeah. – So, it’s easy to get to work. Even in setting up this desk right here, I originally had it kind of
jutting out into the room, and it created a nook behind it. But I just felt myself like, this is gonna sound crazy, but it’s like, I was so much less likely
to go all the way around. I had to walk around the gear, I had to get around the
desk and then sit down. I just want my body,
’cause sometimes we’re, most of the time we’re just on autopilot. I just need the V, or a straight line, straight to my desk.
– Just a beeline. – And then boom, I sit down
and then I get to work. And I’ve noticed I has
helped me out so much. – Yeah. – So I try to be thoughtful
at every single thing in the apartment to reduce that friction as much as I can. – That was a big thing for me in music. When I got my new house
I built this really cool recording studio upstairs
and I realized like, I’m not going upstairs to grab
the guitar and mess around. So I just moved it all downstairs. The amp, the guitars,
everything is just out in the living room. – Yeah. – And it’s so easy, just grab it, play it, and as a result I do. – Yeah, that’s one of
those powerful things about habit change is the
changing of the environment. Something that I’ve learned
over the past year is when I feel like I’m gonna forget a habit, that’s the hardest thing is
like how am I gonna remember every day to keep doing this thing? – Oh, yeah. – So when I took cold showers
every day for 30 days, I just printed up a
calendar and I put it up right next to the shower
and I taped it there, with a permanent marker. So then every time I
went to take a shower, and I did shower daily. (laughs) (Thomas laughs)
That was an important first step, and I would just X out. And then I would always see it. I did that for meditation. For the gym, I’ll keep my
protein out on the counter to remember, I see that it’s a cue. Oh yeah, I got to go to the gym today. And it think those
environmental changes are, yeah it’s just about the friction. It’s about making it easy for yourself. – So do you use any kind
of habit tracking apps, or anything like that? – I don’t, no. I’m envious of people who do. ‘Cause I see the bullet journals. And I’m like those things look so cool. I mean I’m sure you’ve seen them online. Like they’re super artistic and beautiful, and people have these
amazing illustrations. But I’m like I don’t
have the time right now, (Thomas laughs) to make my notebook creative. Like for me, that would
actually be reverse productive to like spend too much time doing that. I understand how habit
tracking can help people. And I think I might experiment
with that in the future, and just try to track
certain things in my life. When I’m doing 30 day
challenges I track things, but I don’t have a specific system for tracking those habits in the long run. I do do something called the two day rule, so that’s when I go to the, basically for my gym workout routine, it’s like kind of a keystone habit for me. It’s one of the most important habits, because it influences so
many other things in my life. When I’m going to the
gym five days a week, four days a week, I am more likely to have my protein shake, I’m more likely to drink more water. I’m gonna be eating healthier, just ’cause I feel motivated
and more energized. And I don’t want to binge on junk food. To keep that gym habit is
really important to me. So I enact a two day
rule, which is basically, I will not let myself take
two days off in a row. – Okay. So you can take a rest day any day, – Yeah.
– even if it’s not planned. Then the next day you must go back. – Yes. I can take multiple
days off in a week, too. – Okay. – And you know, it’s
important because like, I am so much more likely
to miss a third day if I skip two.
– Yeah. – And then four and then five. And you just get so far from it, that’s when you forget, wait a minute, was I trying to build a habit here? Like where did it go? So the two day rule has been instrumental. I will caveat it by saying that I’m not super strict with
it to the point where I’m gonna hurt myself, or I’m
sick and I’m going to the gym. I will take a week off if I’m sick, if I’m traveling and I
feel like taking off, I might just travel for
two weeks and not work out. But knowing that when I come
back to my normal routine, the two day rule is back. And it helps me get right
back and build a habit again. – That helps. – Yeah, ’cause I think it’s
important to know. (laughs) It’s like you put the two rule out there, and then people think
that that’s what I’m doing 365 days a year, and it’s not. I would imagine that you’re not doing most of what you say all the time. It’s more just like 90% is
what we’re shooting for. – Yeah, 100%, yeah because
like, we’re all human. And we’re all working
and challenging ourselves to overcome these things, to implement these systems into our lives. And it is if I can do
this most of the time, if I’m on top of my to
do list most of the time then I’ll feel good. And yeah, 90% of the time
it’s good enough for me. And if you’re striving
to be totally perfect, I think you’re just
gonna let yourself down, because nobody is. – Yeah, yeah absolutely. What do you do when it’s
the middle of the day, and for me this is probably 2:00, 3:00, I don’t know what it is for you. You’re just riddled with brain fog, and you can’t motivate
yourself to do anything? – So I typically go to the
gym in the middle of the day. – So you’re not like a
wake up, go to the gym first thing in the morning. – I did that for a couple
months this year and I liked it. So again it’s like it might vary. And this is where I’m not
type A and I got to kind of structure my day differently at times, just to see how it feels. But when I’m going to the
gym in the middle of the day, I find out like one, it’s a nice break. Like I can go out, get
lunch, have some Chipotle, do a work out and then come back. And I find that, especially
if I’m doing cardio, I’m getting that energy going again. The one thing other than
that which gives me energy is doing different tasks. So I usually try to write
first thing in the morning, because that’s typically the
hardest thing for me to do. If I wait ’til the end of the day. There’s just a certain
amount of creative energy that I can get onto the page,
that I can get into writing. And I couldn’t spend eight
hours writing in a day. I just couldn’t, after a couple hours I usually get pretty tired,
and I get enough done that I’m happy. So I might write for two to
three hours in the morning, and then do editing. I find that editing for me
is a little bit easier to do when I’m kind of feeling
a little bit of brain fog, when I’m feeling tired. I will give myself some breaks. So I won’t just work
for four hours straight. I’ll work for an hour, I might set a timer to remind myself to
stop working in an hour, just to take 15 minutes off. To kind of get my eyes away
from the computer screen, to take a lap around the
apartment, to talk to Natalie, or get a glass of water. And then come back to my work. – Okay. What time do you wake up in the morning? Do you have a specific– – Yeah I mean– – ‘Cause I know you did the what was it? 4:30 in the morning challenge? – I think it was 5:30.
– 5:30? – Yeah, which was, you know not far off from my normal routine,
but far enough that it really negatively (laughs) (Thomas laughs)
affected my life. And I was so strict, I
was like I’m gonna do it for 30 days straight. – Yeah.
– So that was part of the problem is that
I didn’t allow myself the flexibility of, I
didn’t do the two day rule. It was like every day when I’m traveling, regardless time zones.
– Oh makes it tough. – Time zone changes. So that was really difficult. But, typically I wake up around 6:30, I would say on work days. – Okay. – If we had a late
night, or something else, then I’ll sleep in ’til 7:00. I’m usually rarely in bed past 7:30. – Do you have a probably strict bedtime? Or is it just sort of, whatever happens?
– You know when Natalie had her full time job it was more strict, because she would just be like, “All right, it’s 9:00 or
9:30, got to get to bed, “because I got to be up – She’s got to be up.
– “early to get to work. “And I got to commute.” So yeah usually it was a
little bit more strict then. Now we’re still in bed by 10:00 p.m. – Oh okay, so that’s still pretty early. – Yeah we’re pretty boring. (laughs) – So you’re getting eight,
eight and a half hours? – Yeah, yeah.
– It’s a pretty good amount. – Yeah, I would say definitely
eight hours a night for sure. – Cool.
– Yeah. – Well, I think that might
be enough, ’cause we’ve done I don’t know 20 minutes of footage. – Yeah that was great, dude. – Yeah! So, hopefully you guys
enjoyed this interview. Your channel is, is it just – Matt D’Avella, yeah.
– Cool. I’ll have it on screen with
my after effects magic. Go check his stuff out. It’s better filmed that mine, we’re using his cameras, I’m lucky. (Thomas laughs)
– No I love your videos, dude. – Thank you, and your
videos are awesome, as well. – Thank you.
– I binged a bunch of them this morning while I was eating
– Aw, thanks man. – a breakfast burrito.
– Nice! (laughs) – I’m getting my macros.
– That’s they’re intended to be consumed. – Oh yes, yeah, Matt
D’Avella and burritos, it’s like the new thing
the kids are doing. (Thomas laughs)
– Yeah that’s pretty good. I’m gonna write that down
actually on my to do list. – Eat breakfast burritos?
– (laughs) Yeah. – Dude, thank you for coming
on whatever this show is. (Matt laughs)
And you all should go and subscribe to Matt and
start watching his videos. – Cool, thanks brother, appreciate it. – Yup.
– Good stuff, cool.

100 thoughts on “This is How Matt D’Avella Works

  1. Really fun interview. Such a good point on getting ahead. At one point I was 5 weeks ahead of my schedule… then suddenly it's gone. Can't really kill myself to get that running room back, just gotta focus on the task at hand.

  2. Hope you all enjoy this one!

    I'd like to do a whole series of videos like this – interviewing really cool people and seeing how they get things done. I've got a list, but I'd like to know: Who would you want to see on this series?

  3. Matt is better looking, more funny, cuter, and actually down to earth. Thomas looks stiff and like all he cares about is making money. Don’t like him.

  4. I'm pausing at 1:00 cause I got too excited to keep it to myself till the end of the video : OMG! My two top favorite male YouTubers in one video! And I have them for a whole 30~ish minutes 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  5. Now THIS is the ultimate crossover, two of my favorite youtubers talking about one of my favorite topics. Love this video, and I think this could be the beginning of a great series.

  6. I loved this video, two of my favorite youtubers talking together for almost half an hour, best day of my life 😂😂😂😂

  7. boy i grabbed the kitchen chair im in and screamed when i saw this collab was uploaded (finally) YOU COULDA WARNED SOMEBODY

  8. I was trying to find the best productivity system ‘mashup’ for me this month, and this is exactly what I needed for it!
    Thank you Thomas *thank you*!

  9. I love this series idea. Hope to see it continue. I always want to know about other people's methods and techniques.

  10. lmao today was the first time I watched a matt's video cause yesterday someone said he wished you collaborate with him in one of your videos (so I decided to check why) and then minutes later I received this notification

  11. Hey Thomas! I'd love to hear your thoughts on how you justify spending time on things that aren't related to your career. I'm really referring to music here. I know that you've been learning guitar and see that you've been keeping up with it (awesome!) and was just curious as to how you decide how much time to spend on things like music. Same goes for relaxing with video games, movies, TV etc. I always appreciate your quality videos brother 👊

  12. The most important thing I got from this is: the "dont skip 2 days in a row" rule. Alan Thrall has that rule as well.

  13. Hi Thomas! Unrelated to the video, but I wondered if you'd know a useful desktop app reminder/alarm notification ? For example something that you could schedule and that will tell you to water the plants on tuesdays, walk the dog every now and then, etc. Cheers!

  14. Dear Tom,

    I was watching Matt's caffeine video yesterday and was SO suprised when I came to know that you were in his podcast! I was so mad at myself for missing it! I fell asleep listening to the podcast yesterdays night….and when I woke up today morning voila! This video 😅..( I live in IST Time Zone)..such an amazing coincidence! Matt is definitely a very good guinea pig and I think this format could also work well as podcast? Anyways I love it that your trying something new. Best of luck.

    Fyi: muchelleb also featured your skillshare course for a few seconds in her video….it was basically sponsored by skillshare…but I was so proud to see that it was your course that was featured in a way….keep up the great work Tom!

  15. Please have Linus on this show! It'd be incredibly interesting in knowing how do they manage putting out a video every day!

  16. Great video! You both seem kinda rigid and a little uncomfortable. Turn that air conditioning on and get a cup of coffee.

  17. I'm not going to lie I definitely made some tweaks to my productivity system after taking your course. Thanks for coming by to hang! Excited to do it again sometime.

  18. I honestly loved this video so much! I love your other content too, but this one just feels so personal like I’m in the room. Love your videos so much!

  19. This was so interesting! I really enjoyed this and I have been so curious about this. I love Matt his videos !

  20. Yes please a series sounds wonderful! I love that you started with Matt. I’ve been a subscriber very close to a year. That’s how I found your channel. Talk about binge watching, I’ve seen all your videos and I love them! Keep up the good work Thomas. Looking forward to the new ones! Take care!

  21. I am confused, do I like Matt in charcoal grey t shirt or do I like him in silver grey t shirt! Lol. Excellent video. Subscribed to your channel pronto, Thomas! Keep up the good work.

  22. You can get the author of Atomic Habits , am not able to recall the name but he will give some pretty valuable tips.

  23. Two of my favourite stars in one video WOW this is awesome. Buckle up people nuggets are about to fall….. 🤯😱😎👍👍👍👌👌👌🧠

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