The Truth About H. pylori Infections and Functional Medicine – Podcast #90

The Truth About H. pylori Infections and Functional Medicine – Podcast #90

Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Evan, it’s Dr. J.
What’s going on? It’s Monday. Evan Brand: Yes, sir! Back in the trenches, looking at some more
lab results, and we got an email that requested this topic that we were probably gonna get
to anyway which is on H. pylori, something that is honestly, once again, I feel like
I say it—sounding like a broken record—but honestly more common that I though, so Mil,
she sent in an email saying that she loved the podcast and she loves to actually hear
our case studies and that she’s working with clients, too, and she’s seeing a lot
of infections and she wanted to hear a podcast on H. pylori. So here we are. Thanks Mil from Melbourne, Australia. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love it. Well, what do you think about H. pylori? I mean, that’s quite an—it’s an infection
that I see probably over a dozen times a week in my clinic. I’d say at least 50 times a month, no problem. That’s pretty easy. It’s pretty common. What’s your take off the bat? Before I go on my little rant. Evan Brand: Well, it’s something that you
have to rule in or rule out because what I was talking with you about off air is a guy
that I was working with, for some reason we haven’t run a stool test right out of the
gate, so we just started with adrenal treatment and we sort of hit a wall. Some of the anxiety was reduced. Some of the depressive symptoms were reduced. The energy was increased. But we were still hitting this wall with some
of the GI symptoms, some of the tinnitus, etc. and so I figured, okay, well, it’s
time we need to circle back and run the stool test and that’s when we found Klebsiella
and H. pylori. So for me, it’s something that you really
have to rule in or rule out, and if you’re just hitting a wall or you’re not getting
results with your program, this could be an underlying factor that—that many people
don’t even have on their radar. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, I totally agree. I find H. pylori, it’s an opportunistic
bug meaning if you’re under stress especially if you’re eating gluten and grains. If you have other type of toxic stress going
in by eating, say pro-inflammatory foods, any type of body system stress is going to
decrease your body’s ability to secrete hydrochloric acid because you’re lowering
your parasympathetic nervous system which is like that vagus nerve that really helps
you rest and digest, and that kinda opens us up. It lowers that force field to bugs that we
may get in contact with like H. pylori and one of the mechanisms that H. pylori has is
we have kinda like the gastric fluid in our tummy and then we have this mucous layer. And this mucous layer that kind of like provides
this buffer protection against our epithelial cells. These are the cells that line—that really
make up our stomach lining and the H. pylori comes in there, does a couple of things. It takes urea and it converts it to CO2 and
ammonia via the enzyme urease. So H. pylori secretes this enzyme called urease
that then takes increased ammonia and increased CO2 from the urea. Urea is a byproduct of protein metabolism. So we know how important the stomach is for
breaking down protein. So imagine we have this set of dominos. I give this analogy to my patients all the
time because it just—it’s what clicks with me the best. The first domino that has to knock over for
healthy digestion is in the stomach and that’s gonna be low stomach acid. Low stomach acid activates an enzyme called
pepsin. It turn pepsinogen into pepsin which helps
break down protein. And again, stomach acid, the HCl is pH driven. So HCl, hydrochloric acid, drives pH down
but when we eat protein, we have this urea that spits off it and if we have H. pylori
in there, that’s gonna take that urea, turn it into—I’m sorry, take the urea via urease
and turn it into ammonia and CO2. Ammonia’s got a pH of 11 that raises the
pH, that low pH that—I’m sorry—that—that pH now that’s now raised up, it’s more
alkaline, that’s gonna affect us from activating our digestive enzymes and the inflammation
by the H. pylori starts to wear away that mucous layer and—and we have all the cytotoxins
and the ammonia that’s now there, starts to damage those mucosal cells. Evan Brand: Yeah, so I wanna go through some
of the symptoms here that people notice. Basically long story short, what you’re
saying here, we’re gonna have a severe compromise of the whole digestive process in general. So when I asked this male client, take a look
at your fingernails, so he had the vertical ridging, which is something I also had, too. But we knew that there was some sort of protein
malabsorption going on. So that’s one of the symptoms right there,
is that some of these people they may even—I’m sure you’ve seen in some of the vegetarian
and—and vegan clients as well. They may have just an intolerance for meat. But it’s an H. pylori infection. It’s not that they need to be a vet—a—a
vegan or they’re built for a vegetarianism, they may—may have this infection that’s
causing them to not do well with protein in general. So some of the symptoms here, you know we
have the weakness, the tiredness, lightheadedness, irregular heartbeat, cold hands, cold feet,
depression, easily bruising, stomach upset, weight loss, diarrhea or constipation and
on and on. So a lot of the nutrients that you’re not
gonna be absorbing from your food, that’s gonna show up when your fatigued. So that’s why if you go think about all
these people out in society, going on acid blockers and energy drinks for their symptoms,
they need to just look and see that there may be an H. pylori infection. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I 100% agree and H.
pylori on one extreme it can cause deeper issues, right? We know like the mainstream type of issues
it can cause is like increases in gastric cancer, gastric lymphoma and also ulcerations—that’s
like one extreme. The problem is a lot of people that have H.
pylori may not be at that level of extreme. They may have brain fog. They may have fatigue. They may have joint pain. They have migraine headaches. They may just be moody because remember when
you affect digestion of proteins and, the ionizations of minerals, that means being
able to take minerals into your bloodstream, lots of other symptoms can happen not just
at the pathological extreme. So conventional medicine looks at things from
the extremes. Functional medicine looks at things basically
everything in between. And we know that if we have digestive issue,
that’s gonna affect absorption. We know if we have gut inflammation, that’s
gonna affect leaky gut and create bottlenecks for us getting us these important nutrients
to have healthy metabolism and mood and performance from getting into our system. Evan Brand: Yeah, so the problem is once again
with the mainstream care here, is that you’re going to come across antibiotics and antibiotics
are not going to be best option because some of the time you can have a rebound effect,
right? So someone may go on an antibiotic, think
that they’re better and then they’re actually not gonna get rid of the infection. So a lot of times you got for the conventional
treatment here, you may get antibiotics and acid blockers at the same time, instead we
like to look at the botanical alternatives, that honestly are just as effective if not
more without not even 1% of the amount of side-effects that you’re gonna have with
this conventional medical treatment. Do you wanna elaborate on that? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right. So you’re talking about the conventional
medical treatment versus kind of the—the natural and some of the side-effects with
them all? Is that kind of– Evan Brand: Right. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: What the angle? So the conventional medical treatment is something
known as the Prevpac or triple therapy. It typically is a combination of clarithromycin,
amoxicillin, some type of proton pump inhibitor like omeprazole or Prevacid and sometimes
they—they’ll sub in like bismuth instead of the proton pump inhibitors. So those are like the triple therapies. Now we run some genetic stool test that will
actually see a lot of patients have resistance to clarithromycin, which is interesting that
mean—that’s like kind of the big killer in this triple therapy for 2 weeks. They’ll give these three combination drugs
together and I see a lot of patients that have these types of issues where they’re
resistant to the antibiotic. Now that’s a problem because is the therapy
gonna work? Probably not. And then also are we addressing the underlying
issues that cause the compromised immunity to fall prey to the H. pylori to begin with? No. Are we fixing the collateral inflammation
to the mucosal cells that were damaged? No. Are we fixing the underlying digestive issues
from the low stomach acid and the low enzymes? No. Are we looking at the other co-infections
that may be involved like Giardia or maybe a small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or
yeast overgrowth or maybe a deeper parasite infection? No. So you can see all these other issues, it
may just not be that simple of looking at one infection. And some people do get better on the triple
therapy, but I’d say the majority of patients that I see have already been treated for H.
pylori that have it, and they did not get resolution and a lot of times the antibiotics
made them worse because they probably have this detoxification issue that was backed
up because remember, detoxification pathways primarily run from B vitamins and sulfur amino
acids and if our digestion’s impaired, well, there goes the protein, right? To—to run our phase 2 pathways. And if we have issues with gut bacteria being
out of balance, well, the gut bacteria helps produce B vitamins, so you can see all these
mechanisms kind of get knocked down and—and just treating the H. pylori with an antibiotic
may not be the underlying—may not be the best way to go about it. It may cause more symptoms than—than actually
fixing the issue in a functional medicine way that’s more linear like we talked about
in our last podcast about our—the right path to healing. 1280px-Ulcer-causing_Bacterium_(H.Pylori)_Crossing_Mucus_Layer_of_Stomach Evan Brand: Right. So another piece, too, that I wanna mention
is if you are going this conventional route, you’re never gonna get told to change your
diet. You’re never even gonna get told that what
you eat has a relationship to how you’re feeling with this H. pylori. So if you’re just doing supplements, even
if you are going the natural route, but you haven’t adjusted the diet, your results
are gonna be limited there. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Absolutely and let’s
not forget, right? The same cells that make stomach acid, the
parietal cells in the stomach, they’re also the same cells that produce intrinsic factor. Intrinsic factor is this binding protein that
binds to B12 in the food, in the stomach, and then our tummy then—or I should say
our intestinal tract reabsorbs it at the end of our small intestine in the area called
the ileum. So we bind it up to this stuff, we basically
tag it with this intrinsic factor in the stomach and then we re-absorb it at the end of our
small intestine in an area called the ileum. Now this is interesting because we need stomach
acid to liberate B12 from our food, and this is actually coming from Harvard School of
Public Health’s website and they actually talk about the fact that it’s estimated
that 10-30% of adults over the age of 50 are low in stomach acid. Evan Brand: I’d say it’s like 90%. What do you think? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, I was just about
to—to go into that. So like the big thing is, right? They’re looking at everything from like
a pathological extreme. Evan Brand: Right. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So, you mean just
because you’re at pathological cut-off, what if you’re knocking up against it, you
know? How many years do you have to knock up against
it before they consider you, you know, very, very low in stomach acid? So I would say it’s much higher than that. I would—I’m 100% on your—on your level
here. But the thing is, a talk about how stomach
acid is require to liberate B12 from the food. Now why is B12 so important? We need B12 for healthy nervous system. If we don’t have enough B12, we’ll get
something called subacute combined system disease or posterolateral scleros—sclerosis
where the myelin sheath in the nerves will actually get worn away from lack of B vitamins,
B12 in particular and we also need B12 to mature our red blood cells. Immature big goofy red blood cells have a
hard time carrying oxygen and nutrition. So low B12 equals bigger red blood cells that
aren’t mature, right? Red blood cells actually get smaller as they
get more mature. As they are immature, they are bigger. It’s kinda like the opposite. Imagine like babies being born like 10-foot
adults and they get more mature as they get older, it—it’s—that’s kinda how it
is with the blood cells. So we see these big goofy cells that can’t
do their job and that means lack of nutrition, lack of oxygen and basically overall lack
of neurological health and methylation which is so important, too. Evan Brand: That’s scary. So it really is—this is one of the biggest
pillars that could collapse someone’s health journey if they go undiagnosed and untreated
with this issue. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Absolutely and then
H. pylori, like if you look at H. pylori, it’s got wo little walls. It’s a gram-negative bacteria, so how I
kinda draw the analogy because I—I use analogies a lot because you don’t ever have to remember
a story. People can hear stories and they—and they
get it, right? People could think of maybe a story that their
grandfather or grandmother told them when they were younger, and they heard it once
and they still got it. So if we kinda teach in stories, we just say
it once and they got it. But imagine H. pylori, it’s got like two
cell walls, that’s a gram-negative bacteria. So imagine like anyone that watches Game of
Thrones, right? We’ll use the castle analogy here. So imagine you got this like moat around the
castle, that’s like the first wall of defense that H. pylori has. And then we have like the actual castle wall
as like the second wall of defense. So we have two walls, right? We have the moat and then we have the castle
wall. So it’s harder to kill these bacteria that
have two walls obviously because it’s harder to get across the moat and then have the energy
to climb up the wall. So imagine that’s kinda like H. pylori. Now in the outside before you get into the
moat, imagine all of these traps, all these land mines, right? That’s what’s called LPS. They’re these little things that sit on
the outer second wall that are basically toxic. LPS stands for lipopolysaccharide. It also stands for endotoxins. So it literally is a toxin. So imagine with H. pylori, we got the—we
got the moat. We also have the big castle wall. That’s layer one and two. And then outside of the moat we have all these
land mines. And that’s why H. pylori is so hard because
the land mines are essentially a toxic stress on our body because as we kill the H. pylori,
it can create more symptoms because our liver and our detox pathways have to process those
land mines or those LPS/endotoxins. Evan Brand: So what you’re saying here,
it’s not gonna be just a gut-killing protocol when we come into treatment. It’s gonna have to be a multi-pronged approach
here where we’re supporting the actual body systems that are getting affected by this
dump essentially, which is the same thing that can happen with like parasitic infections,
too, right? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, so we may use
things like ginger because ginger is a biofilm type of buster. So biofilms are like imagine the—you know,
on those outer two walls, we have these protective agents that make it harder for you to disable
those land mines or harder for you to—to scale the moat or scale the wall. So the biofilm agents allow us to kind of
attack those two walls easier so we can use things like ginger, as a really simple or
easy one. A lot of the herbs we’ll use, we’ll have
biofilm busters already in it. We may give extra enzymes to provide biofilm
busters. We may give things like diatomaceous earth
to help break down biofilms as well. And then we may—may even give extra binders
like citrus pectin of various vegetable fiber pectins to basically put straightjackets around
these crazy endotoxins. So imagine someone’s in a bar, they’re
getting all rowdy, right? The bouncer comes in and puts their arm around
their back and escorts them out. That’s what some of the fibers do. That’s what the charcoal also does as well. Diatomaceous earth can also help with that. So we have a lot of our different binding
agents that we use in conjunction with some of the herbs. And again, you really wanna do this in—in
sequence, so we always wanna work on body system one before body system two. Body system one being the hormones, two being
the gut and infections, and three being detox. And then even before that, that sets the foundation
is always the diet and lifestyle stuff. So you always wanna make sure if you have
an infection, you’re better off working with a functional medicine doctor or practitioner
because I’ve seen patients get far worse and far sicker doing these protocols on their
own because what happens is you start feeling like crap and then you don’t know what to
do. Because you only have one data point and because
you’re getting sick and this is the first time you—you’ve felt it then you kind
of go into freak out mode. So it’s always good to have someone that’s
done it, in my case, a couple thousand times and—and I know you—you’re right up there,
too, with your experience. So you want that experience because it gives
you the confidence that you know you’re on the right track. Like if I’m going to Mt. Everest next summer
to hike, you know, Everest, right? I want to go with one of those trail guys
that have been all the way to the top. I don’t want to go on that journey alone
because, man, it’d be pretty scary when it starts getting windy and stuff, and you
don’t know what to do. Evan Brand: Yeah. So something that’s cool that you just said,
I’m glad you brought up the adrenals, you know, body system one here. I’m looking at a study, it was from 2012,
and it was titled Effects of Alpha Tocopherol and Ascorbic Acid on H. pylori. Long story short, the H. pylori intensity
was decreased by increasing the ascorbic acid concentration in the body. So a lot of times, you and I are using vitamin
C anyway with adrenal support, hormone programs, and so that’s something that I usually keep
in place is the vitamin C supplementation during H. pylori because we’re gonna be
able to up the speed or up the—what they call here—eradication rate. It says by impairing the microenvironment
created by the bacteria and facilitating the diffusion of antibiotics, which may be that’s
herbal antibiotics and in our case, into gastric mucosa. So that’s a pretty cool finding there that
we can actually see vitamins that we’re using for other protocols for this protocol,
too. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, and also there’s
a study here from the Journal of Psychosomatic Medicine, they talk about mucosal wound healing
being impaired via stress. So they– Evan Brand: I believe it. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: They talk about that
the data suggest here that something, you know, transient predictable, even relati—relatively
benign can significantly affect the consequence of wound healing. Now it talks about mucosal wound healing. So now if we extract—extrapolate that to
our gastrointestinal mucosa, we could see how supporting someone’s adrenals would
then help balance and modulate cortisol levels, and if we know cortisol is important for that
musical healing, you can see how us addressing body system one before we go into body system
two being incredibly instrumental at setting the table for that nice immune mucosal wound
healing environment. Evan Brand: Definitely. Stress is a killer. I mean, it comes up in every conversation
we have, I think. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: I 100% agree. And so we know like the conventional H. pylori
symptoms, a lot of people don’t have those, right? So then you gotta know well, just because
you go to your primary care doctor and they say that you don’t have it, or maybe they
do a breath test, and remember what I said, right? Urea gets metabolized to CO2 and ammonia,
the ammonia is what screws up the stomach acid but the CO2 is what they’re measuring
on the breath test. So the typical testing methods are CO2 via
the breath test. Evan Brand: Yup. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: We have blood via
the IgG, IgM, IgA, which is an indirect immune response looked at via the blood. We also have a villous or a gastric mucosal
sample because we’re looking at trying to clip away a piece of that maybe H. pylori
in the stomach or first part of the small intestine, but you know, if we don’t get
it, that could be like putting a bucket in our—in our lake and pulling it up and saying,
“Oh, it’s just water. That means there’s no fish in the lake.” So we don’t wanna just also have that same
mindset and say, “Well, look, there’s no sample there. Well, the doctor may have missed it.” It’s very possible that that could have
happened. We also have—we also have your stool antigen
test which is a great test to look at. We like Biohealth stool antigen, and then
we also have genetic test like PCR, polymerase chain reaction. We use a handful of labs like GI-MAP or Diagnostic
Resource Group, and they’re—they do really good work and anyone that wants to get access
to those labs, check out either Evan’s site or my site for access to those labs so you
can get fully looked at, but again, we wanna look at it in conjunction with body system
one as well. Just don’t make the mistake of just going
after body system two. I’ve seen hundreds of patients get sicker
doing that and they end up having to come back anyway and do it all over again and they
waste a few months of their time and money. Evan Brand: Oh, gosh. Spend—spend a couple minutes here, what
happens to these people that ignore the order of operations? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Well, symptoms get
worse, and again like I said, LPS is a toxin, so if you’re in the camp of having detox
pathways impaired, right? And we could see that on organic acid test. We may see things like hippurate or you know,
many of the different organic acid markers out of range—sulfate, pyroglutamate, right? These are all markers that bends the weight. These are markers that correlate to detoxification
that could mean our phase 1 and phase 2 cytochrome P450 oxidative pathways are backed up and
it may be hard for us to escort toxins out of our body. Evan Brand: Yup, that makes sense. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So triple therapy
is the conventional treatment. We use some different herbs in our clinic. We mentioned some of the biofilm agents, some
of the binders. We use a bunch of various gut-killing herbs
like clove or wild indigo, berberine herbs, mastica, oil of oregano, wormwood. We do different things like the ginger and
again, it’s gonna be in the right dose, in the right amount. And the big thing—here’s the X factor,
the X factor is do you have a co-infection along with the H. pylori. I have 3 patients this last week that not
only had H. pylori, they had Giardia and they had Blasto. Evan Brand: Oh, man. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Now what would happen
if we just went after H. pylori alone or they just did the triple therapy for H. pylori
alone? Evan Brand: Yeah, it’s not gonna work. You’re still gonna have symptoms, that’s
for sure. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, I mean let’s
say you went the conventional route and let’s say, you added metronidazole or Flagyl in
to kill Giardia. Well, great. I mean, the research only says that works
a third of the time. Awesome. So now you—you roll in the dice. You have a 66% chance that none of that’s
fixed and most doctors would never come, you know, even look for the Giardia anyway. So then you’re really set up for a world
of hurt. So we wanna sequence things the right way. Typically, one infection at a time; sometimes
we’ll do two if people have a stronger constitution, we’ll add in two. But you can see that we talked about the test. Some people may have to get all 6 tests done
to evaluate whether or not they have H. pylori. I had one person recently took 4 times to
get rid of the H. pylori. Most of the time it’s one or two, but sometimes
it can take 3 or 4 and then we also know it can be spread pretty darn easily. In a lot of third world countries for instance,
one of the main mechanisms is actually flies, because people are defecating in the streets. It’s like—I know like a lot of countries
like India, I think 300 million people in India are still defecating the street. It’s crazy to think that because you know,
that’s a third of the population in India I think. And if a fly goes in there and lands on someone’s
stool that has H. pylori and then let’s say flies into your house and flies on your
meal, you could easily get H. pylori vector that way. Evan Brand: Wow. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: They also talk about
here—and we’ll put all these studies into the transcription so everyone can go look
at it later but they also talk about vaginal secretions, being a mechanism for H. pylori
so intercourse, husband and wife, that’s gonna be very common, and even saliva. So non-sexual relationships that may be intimate
like you know, kissing your—your son or daughter, right? That—there’s still a saliva interaction
or even just sharing silverware or—or food or glasses. There could still be a connection there because
we know saliva is a mechanism and we know vaginal secretions are also a mechanism, too. Evan Brand: I was trying to find a world map
here, but it does show that in—this is just on PubMed talking about the evolution of H.
pylori resistance to antibacterial agents that in Asia greater than or equal to 80%
of the H. pylori cases are already resistant to the antibiotics in the first place. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right, right. They are resistant to it and that’s what
we see a lot on the—on the DRG and the GI-MAP test. We’ll see a resistance to that clarithromycin
which is that typical—typical antibiotic used to treat it. Evan Brand: Yup, and they have here talking
about the metro—how do you say that one? Metronidazole? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, that’s Flagyl
basically. Evan Brand: Yeah, resistance to that one,
too. The resistance isn’t as common in—well,
it’s you know, greater than or equal to 20% in the USA and other developed countries,
but that’s—that’s still massive. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Right, and just so
you know, there’s not a ton of research on H. pylori being transmitted via vaginal
secretions, but this paper here in sexually transmitted infections in 2000 is putting
that out as a hypothesis. We’d have to look at more—more recent
papers, but they talked about that it’s being a potential reservoir especially with
the right environmental conditions, and they also talked about potential reservoirs for
H. pylori or feces, the cheek—the cheeks, right? The kissing. Think food, saliva and dental plaque. So because these are potential reservoirs
according to the research, it’s also a potential for it to be spread. Now we can’t say, is it a one to one? Right? When you kiss someone with H. pylori, do you
get it? No. Because we have something known as IgA which
is our local immune membrane killer that lives in our mucosal system in our mouth, in our
gut, and vaginal canal or urinary canal, gut tracts, that can knock it down. So if you have good constitution and good
IgA levels, you can beat it out. That’s why we talked about H. pylori being
opportunistic, where there’s more stress, low stomach acid, lower IgA. Think of your defense systems being down. Think of the, you know, the old Star Trek
film where the force fields are down. The Klingons can attack and their lasers hit
a lot harder when the force field’s down than when it’s up, Evan Brand: Yup, makes perfect sense. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Any other feedback
you wanna give, Evan? Evan Brand: I think that’s it. I think that was really good coverage. I was glad that we were able to zoom in, zoom
out, and sort of paint a good picture here. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So I just wanna say
to any potential patients listening. The diet piece is gonna be important. Cut the grains and the gluten and the refined
sugar, and the junk out of it. Get the sleep and the blood sugar timing stuff
down. But then if you’re still having some of
these symptoms, the next step would be to evaluate body system one and two and three,
maybe not all at the same time, but at least body system one and two to start, and get
on a comprehensive program so you can move through the mountains or the woods, or that
your healing journey confidently and not feel like you’re grasping for straws when there’s
a—a setback that—that can happen from time to time. Evan Brand: Right, so once again, here’s
another piece that we’ve uncovered of why the diet and fitness industry has such a horrible
success rate. Here you go. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Awesome. Well, hope everyone enjoys this podcast here. This is such a big issue that I see in my
clinic, and I see it day in and day out. I see about 50 H. pylori cases a month and
about, I’d say 30-50% of the population have this infection, but if you’re having
symptoms at all or you just want to be—have optimal health, you should get the H. pylori
eradicated and be infection-free. Everyone has the right to be infection-free. Evan Brand: Definitely. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Alright, Evan. Great show. Evan Brand: Take care. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Take care! Bye! Evan Brand: Bye!

17 thoughts on “The Truth About H. pylori Infections and Functional Medicine – Podcast #90

  1. In case of having an underlying infection that causes SIBO like a parasite or h. pylori. Is there a chance to get rid of the SIBO without any intervention, but just by fighting h. pylori itself?

    I´ve read about h. pylori slowing down the MMC…

  2. I,m a 54 year oldmale and have had gastric and digestive problems for most of my adult life. Iv,e led a typical normal lifestyle and always thought there was an underlying cause to these problems. However recently things took a turn for the worst. so i got tested for H. pylori and found it was present in stomach, i got the standard triple therapy treatment and it seemed to work due to die off symptoms. I was still getting problems and found out i had SIBO and candida which antibiotics didn,t kill. Because pylori killed stomach acid, bad bacteria and fungus thrived in intestines. I didn,t fancy more drugs so decided to treat it myself using natural remedies . A ll doctors iv,e seen don,t believe in natural therapies and just push modern drugs . However after researching the subject i picked my own therapy protocol using natural remedies and up to now they seem to be working judging by die off. My choice is coconut oil, oregano oil, dandelion root, mastic gum and pau d,arca tea, also start the day with lemon and ginger in warm water with cider vinegar ,quite potent. Next job is fixing leaky gut.

  3. This is the best info ive come across…if u knew me thats saying something…..i feel a 15 min phone call w you could save my life. Ive done 90% of the work im in circles tho and unguided…How do i get in contact w you? im running out of time….

  4. Hello, the h. Pylori is there to break down something because a malfunctioning stomach and therefore has its function or is it there to promote ill health? Because maybe h. Pylori is there doing its job while we are here demonizing it. Therefore, when we have a h. Pylori overgrown is because it is cleaning something….. Can it be? Regards

  5. Thank you for the info, however your rates are unbelievably high! My wife is scared to death cause of how bad her heaths been sucks we can’t afford some one on one advice

  6. That's so crazy that h.pylori affects the myelin sheath of nerves. Despite the other agonizing symptoms (most of what you mentioned) my never damage was the biggest issue. I was diagnosed with MS in 2011 the eventually had neck surgery which was a cause of progressing MS. Now that I've watched this and doing further research (Google) I'm starting to think h.pylori is the main culprit of everything. Glad it took the time to watch this vid. Thanks. (Btw I was recently diagnosed with h.pylori and am using the triple therapy to kill the infection)

  7. also have h pylori and klebsiella, desperate to death because i am intolerant to every single food/ substance on this planet. massive case of leaky gut. no one could figure out what's wrong with me for so long. now i have results. can't take any probiotics, even in low doses. also intolerant to all natural remedies because of salicylate oxalates gluten dairy egg intolerance + histamine + all meat+fish. so bad. i have not really stomach issues, i have massive immune reactions when i ingest these things. also antibiotics allergy…yes.. sounds fun right

  8. PyloPass in Life Extension's Gastro-Ease has been designed to lower h pylori:

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