Kevin Durant joins Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles | The Players’ Tribune

Kevin Durant joins Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles | The Players’ Tribune

– Alright this is a question we kinda ask everybody that we have, every guest that we have on the show. And the question is when
you got to the league, who was the first person to bust your ass like this is the level. Like this is the highest level to go. – Man my first game was
against Melo and AI. But I had to guard Melo. I was 19, he probably what? 24. – It was Denver. – 23. – Yeah. – And you know, and I never played in
that Denver altitude, I didn’t really know too much about. And Melo was just physical. He just was, he would duck you in the paint, hit you with the shoulder. And then he’ll take you out. Jab, jab, pull over top
of you so you can’t. You wanna be physical but you don’t. He was just have you
thinking too much on D. We had a back to back that night, I got on the plane confused. (laughter) (“Going Bad” by Meek Mill featuring Drake) – Never stop. Never settle. – I wanna talk to you
about like growing up, know what I’m saying
in the Maryland, D.C., that whole DMV area. Like I know like high
school and ball growing up, it was at a high level out there. Y’all had a lot of dudes,
know what I’m saying. Like talk about some of the
dudes you grew up playing with that was like some of
them dudes that was boys. I know Beas is a dude
that you grew up playing, man I played with him
my one year in Miami. So I know he’s a walking bucket. Y’all got one of the cities and one of the areas that’s like you know, well respected as far as like
the people y’all then put out. Just talk about some of the people you grew up playing against. – Let me go back far to like Washington. Guys like, I came out of Washington
like Keith Bogans and. – [Quentin] Forte? – Yeah Joseph Forte,
and then Steve Francis, and then Demar Johnson. All those dudes you kinda
like grew up watching, and they make it in a McDonald’s game, and make it into the league. And then you playing against them. And when you playing rec ball, and you see one or two dudes
that’s just as good as you, that one dude for me was Mike Beasley. How crazy was that? And then as I got older in eighth grade, Ty Lawson I seen him for the first time. And that was just like another
experience to see somebody that fast and that good
at basketball at that age. Cause like you’re so sheltered. Then you were seeing so many dudes just go to nice high schools, and then head to college and I’m like man, I didn’t realize how much talent we had in the area until I got older. And that just molded me into who I was. Cause every night we was
playing in high school was against dudes that were
either going to D1 schools or like young dudes coming up, so it was good competition. Yeah man that’s when the internet was really just poppin’ off really, so we was just jumping
on all of those sites. And you know, you wanted to see how you
stacked up against the players in your neighborhood and
hopefully once you got out and got some exposure in the country. So you was hearing about so many players, 6’9″, 240. You like, what does that even look like? You know 6’4″ point guard, 195. I’m like I’ve never seen this before. So like your imagination was
just kind of running wild and then I was chasing the NBA life. I just wanted to see what that was about. And then seeing all the young players coming out of high school
and playing in the NBA, it was just perfect for me at that time, because it was not too much basketball, but it was just enough. You know what I’m saying? I was able to still go outside and play and still catch up on
everything in the NBA. You know what I mean? That was cool. – Demar Johnson was a crazy. Like crazy. – For real like me and him, like I met him at ABCD. Me and him played on
the same team together. And he didn’t even realize he was ranked. Like that’s what was crazy. I remember we sitting there one day, we looking at the rankings and I’m like yo, what’s your name? What grade? We’re going over each others names. And he’s like yeah, says his name, I’m looking, I’m going through. I said man, bro you number one. Like you don’t know? He’s like nah, I didn’t even know. I’m like man, that’s back when he really was crossover, crossover, bang on you. Like throw on you. Shoot the three, like everything. – He was saying he could come
out after his junior year. – [Darius] He could of went
straight out of high school. – [Quentin] They were telling
him to leave after junior year and everything. I remember that. – He could have went
straight out of high school, I couldn’t believe he went to college. – He did one year at Cincinnati, right? – Yup. – And then we was in the same draft. All of us. – Kenyon, Kenny Saddlefield. – He was pretty good though. – It was a problem. – It was the deal. If Kenyon
wouldn’t have got hurt. – Oh Kenyon broke his leg. – That was the deal. – Yeah that was tough. – Kenyon Player of the Year,
like they was running it. – So what other players, influenced you being like a tall, you know what I’m saying 6’9″,
about seven feet type dude, that’s like shooting jumpers, handling the ball as well as you do and doing all the things. Like basically being a two guard in a seven foot, 6’11” frame. Like name some of the guys. I mean I heard you say some of the guys. I heard you mention him before. And I’ve always said that I looked at you as like D Miles 2.0. Like when D Miles hit the scene, it was like what’s going on. This boy is 6’9″ out here, bap, bap, bang. – Dunking on everybody. – But I’m talking about really had the right to left
crossover that was moving. – All that shooting a J,
fades, all that, yeah. – And was like banging that
thing and like then you came, and D Miles was like a I don’t know, like Ray Allen or Rashard type three. You know what I’m saying, the one thing that he was
missing was like his jumper and all of that and then you come in, you know the 50, 90 whatever
everybody says type dude. – Yeah you just build on what all those dudes you watch coming up. Man I was just, I had an opportunity to. DJ like, man he didn’t have to but
he took me under his wing as I was coming up from
like as a high school kid, just always following him to the gym. You just seeing the lifestyle, seeing stuff that I
wanted to be a part of. He was always cool in bringing
the youngsters back from out around our way just
to be around the life. So he showed us love, and you realize what the
OG’s really did for the game. You know so the stuff that I seen him do and then before him, just really watching
seeing what you was doing, it was just like you just wanna do that, and you just wanna keep
building and seeing how far you can take it cause it’s just
about evolution of the game, you know what I mean. So there’s somebody
that’s gonna do what I do, that’s gonna maybe find
200 different ways. So I would say not at a early age, I was like finally, there’s
somebody that looks like me. Cause I’m the only one walking around here long and skinny and playing in this sport. So I’m like man finally
somebody that looks like me. And it just makes you feel like you can do anything out there. So like everyday I was
watching T Mac clips, I had a tape. We was rewinding tapes
watching T Mac film, looking at stats, looking at how he goes left, pull up. Like that was somebody I was
drawn to and I had to study. So I had to write so
much stuff down on him and I was just starting to learn about him and see how he came from high school and how he was 6’8″ and
long and athletic like me. So I just kind of shifted
my focus just to him. And then once you go to one player, then you just go to the next and then you just go from there. But T Mac and Kobe was the two guys that are always stared at
constantly when they played. And try to figure out how
they did what they did. – I never could understand
when people used to say, man Kobe played just like Jordan
like that was a bad thing. – No. Yeah no. That’s hard to look like Jordan. – What? You know if I
could rock like Mike? – Yeah shoot the fade like Mike? – The style how he dunked. The flavor, the swag. – So speaking on when you was coming up and you know the influence was like, at what point did it hit you
or did you realize like man, I could make it, I’m nice. Like I could play in the NBA one day. Like at what point, you
know what I’m saying was it when you was hooping against somebody, or at a camp, or you made yourself known out of there. At what point did you say
like I’m going to the league, I’m gonna get there. – I went to Five Star camp. I was a tenth grader. Nobody really knew my name
but it was like spring time, and I was going into the summer
playing in all these camps like right before All-American camp. But I went to Five Star. And I got like the Most Outstanding Player but when I was out there, I went the year before and
my first time ever at a camp. And then that next year I was going back, and I was playing outside
and I was just cruising. I was just pulling up from deep, everybody was coming to watch the games, I’m dunking on people, I’m just like the game is
coming super easy to me. And last year it was like
I was having a hard time just trying to figure it out. So I’m like I put in so much work, and I’m starting to see the
results and I’m like oh shit. And I’m getting taller at the same time. – [Quentin] Right. – So I’m like I really could
do whatever I want out there. And I start seeing my
name in the rankings. And I seen on the NBA Draft website, they had the mock drafts
and I seen my name on the mock drafts and I’m thinking like yo I’m still in an apartment, I’m like I’ve been watching this shit since I’ve been 11 years old. So I’m like man this shit getting close. And then I just started to put
my foot on the gas even more, cause I wanted to just see
how far I could take my game. And shit, I’m here now. – So what made you choose Texas? – Man I wanted to go to North Carolina. – First you couldn’t go
straight out of high school. Cause you could have went
straight out of high school. Let’s get that clear. – Right. – You could have definitely went straight out of high school. – So my coach at Texas that recruited me, he was like yeah when
they put that rule out, my wife, Coach Barnes, his wife, we all toasting up because
you can come to school. I was like damn, that’s how they really
looking at this thing. I didn’t know it was that big but, I wanted to go to Carolina. All my friends was
getting recruited there. Ty Lawson who I played
with for three years. My best friend, we went to Oak Hill together. Roommates at Oak Hill, that was my boy. He went there. And I’m like– – So wait, they didn’t recruit you? – No no no no. They was recruiting me heavy with him. They were expecting us to come together. I’m going on official visits, I went to a game when they
beat Duke at the buzzer. And they won a national
championship that year. My junior year of high school. So I’m like man, I wanna go to Carolina. But they were stacked though. They had a nice senior class, they went to the Final Four that year. Or Elite Eight that year. But Tyler Hansbrough
was there, Danny Green, all those dudes so I would
have got kind of lost. Not lost but I would be playing 25 minutes instead of 40 minutes
like I should be playing. You know what I’m saying so. My moms and my pops was
like, nah we know what it is. Me I’m like no I wanna
go play with my homies. Let’s go hoop. I just wanna go hoop with my homies. And Texas I went on a visit. And Coach Barnes, you know he blew me away
with just his approach. You know what I’m saying, just like he knew what he had in me. You know what I mean? He knew just like. – We ain’t about to blow this
one. We got him on campus. – I’m a still coach him
up and be who he is, but I’m gonna take care of
him while he’s down here. I’m still a 17 year old kid. But I know what I got. He gave me the rock every time. Even when we was working out. I’m like oh shit I didn’t
even know this was like this. We had a couple McDonald’s
All-Americans too so once I got down there, he gave me the rock. But as I was going through the visit, I’m like I’ve never been to Texas before, it was cool, nice weather. There’s a lot of girls down here. I’m gonna be far away from the crib, nobody can just pull up on me like that. And I’m like I could
just really focus on me and get away. So I’m like perfect. And I end up doing what I did down there, now I’m forever tied there. They got my logo on the jersey, they’re about to have my logo. They got my name on the practice stadium. – Well first of all you did it big. They got your name on
there for what you did. Eh, they better put your name somewhere for what you did up there now. – I went down there and did
what I was supposed to do. And now I’m forever tied there. That shit’s pretty cool
now that I think about it. Cause I sit back and like shit, if I went to Carolina, I would have just been. – [Quentin] Another
name through the system. – Another name and 20 jerseys up there. Now I go to Texas, it’s just me and TJ Ford. And another guy. – TJ Ford. – That’s literally why I went to DePaul over like going to like, Kansas was the other big
school that was my final two. – You’s McDonald’s. That was crazy you went
to DePaul out there. – Word. And so it was like that’s
what it came down to for me. It was like you know I could stay here, my family could come watch me every game. You know what I’m saying
all of the conference games is pretty much in the Midwest, they could drive and come to the games. But more importantly it was like, what we about to do here, myself, Bobby and Lance. Like we all Chicago boys. It was so much hype
around bringing back from when Mark Aguirre and Terry Cummings and everybody had did in the early 80’s. Like they hadn’t had that. Like what we was gonna mean to the city, and mean to Chicago. And like I’m heavy. Everything in me is
Chicago so it was like, this is your chance to make a stand. Like really make a, we all from the Chicago public school. Like we’re not from like a suburban, all of us. Everything says Chicago. 60628. You know what I’m saying. So it was like me going there, it’s like you said it’s not
like you can’t go to UNC or I can’t go to Kansas
and make my imprint. But even still, you ain’t about to really succeed Mike. You know what I’m saying? You ain’t about to top that. Not that you going to try and
be the top dog or whatever but like just you know
that alright at Texas, when I go do what I do it’s gonna rain. You know what I’m saying, like it’s gonna rain for real. It ain’t gonna be like
alright like all of these, like it’s like you wanted a few. – Yeah man. – And you see that now. And like all these years later it means that much more to you. – I committed to St. John’s. Like I was coming off that
Ron Artest, Eric Barkley. Like it was kinda making a little noise. – That was still a good team. That was still a good
era at St. John’s though. – Like Anthony Glover. – They was wearing Jordan. – Me and Omar, cause Omar wanted to go to North Carolina. – Omar Cook was nice. – I told North Carolina like yeah you get Omar and Eddie
Griffin I’m definitely coming. You know what I’m saying? Like I wanna squad up. And Eddie went to Seton Hall and they picked Adam Boone over Omar Cook. Omar Cook lead the nation in
assists his freshman year. – Omar was nice. – You know what I’m saying? – Omar was nice. – So when he lead the nation
in assists his freshman year I was like I made a great decision. Cause I was running the floor
just catching that thing and dunking that jump. But yeah I committed to St. John’s and I decided like I’m out. – What I wanna ask you is like
back when y’all was in OKC, when it was you, Russ, and James Harden, like did y’all three know
that it was like okay y’all about to all three be future MVPs and y’all all three is this cold. Like if I’m talking about like this cold. I know playing against y’all, I didn’t like, like obviously you stuck out the most, and you know Russ and
James was good but like I never was sitting there
like okay all three of them are gonna be a MVP at
some point in this league. Like that’s like crazy. – Me either. – Like you going in practice and going at it with them dudes. And a relationship, the tightness y’all had, I felt like that was
like to me in my opinion, like that was like one
of the biggest screw ups that they allowed, I don’t know what the whole, how anything went. But just the fact that they, just because the tightness of y’all. And that reminded me of how we were. Like you know it was three
young boys that still should be in college level, but they was like all
young and hungry out there, dogs and they was all. – Yeah it was perfect. – But they loved each other. They was everywhere together. Every time you saw one, you almost saw all of y’all. And that reminded me of how we was. So I was like how they let this break up? Like these dudes love each other. These three young boys
is coming up superstars. It ain’t no hating on each other, everybody loves each other
and they all rock together. And it’s like how you don’t keep that? How many years is it
that you had in Seattle? One or two? – Just one. – First of all let me just say. I loved Seattle. I loved going to play in Seattle. I felt like Seattle was a
great city for the league. Like it was a cool, it was one of the coolest
cities to fly into and be there for a day
or two and like vibe out. I loved Seattle. And I wish, I hope they get a team
back there and all that. But I want you to talk about it. You know cause I feel
like you and Jeff Green had a cool first year there. And just talk about your experience there in Seattle with the Sonics. – Man it was fun. The fans came out and
supported from day one. You know just even when
I had a workout there, they were at the facility
trying to greet us and make sure that we
felt at home from day one. Even before we were drafted so. Everyday in practice they
coming out and supporting us. Even when we were bad, we were 20 and 62 that year. The fans willing to come
out and support so much because of what was going on up top, you know they were trying to
move the team to relocation so the fans were kind of at
odds with the organization, but they still supported the players. So it was kind of weird being in the city and playing in the city but
the love that they showed us, just walking around and
just being players there was cool man. They definitely deserve a
team because that market is just a basketball market,
you know what I mean. – And then how was that, like going from that and
alright like your rookie year, you know for me it was alright I’m in LA, I get me a place, I’m staying here for the next four years. Then you’re like boom y’all get moved. And it’s like OKC. I don’t even know if like. I had never been to Oklahoma City for anything until we
started playing there. So I don’t know if you was like that, or like that was your first time. Like what is Oklahoma City? – See I spent a lot of time at Texas. So we play Oklahoma a
lot, in Oklahoma state. So it’s a six hour
drive from Austin, Texas to Oklahoma City so all my
friends would come up from Texas. That was like my home being in
Oklahoma City for that long. So I was cool with going
back to the Midwest because I was so close to the University. So that helped my transition. But as far as just like
moving an organization, we didn’t have a practice
facility for a second, we didn’t have no logo, we didn’t even know who
was gonna be on the team. – [Darius] How the jerseys gonna look? – Yeah like we got there, I stayed in a hotel. The haunted hotel they was talking about. I stayed there. – The old school hotel? – The crazy one. – The Skirvin. I stayed there for like
the first two months until you found a crib. Like we didn’t even know. – So wait, did you ever have
any type of craziness there? – No no. – I haven’t either. That’s why I’m asking. – Isn’t there one time
you got the bed bugs? – Yeah that’s what he said. – I ain’t never had
nothing crazy up there. – No it wasn’t too bad. I spent two months in there. And I bought a house in Seattle so. Just moving so fast it was weird but we figured it out after a while. – Hey there’s one question
that we love to ask everybody. So when you first got drafted right, it’s your first time
coming into some change, when you can do something, what’s the wildest thing
or the craziest thing you did like buying something
when you got some bread? Like cause we all guilty of it. Like we young boys, he was 18, I was 19. What was you, 19? – 18. – So you young. 18, 18 and
I’m 19 so you get dropped. In our minds, we rich. Not rich, we wealthy. That’s what we think and
we don’t know nothing. – We here for life. – Right. So what did you do? – Man. It’s not like one thing. It’s just like you just
spend it on stupid stuff. Like I’m buying five or
six Xbox’s for no reason. – Hey listen one for every room. – Buying like seven, eight TVs. – Every room gotta have this. (laughter) – I’m buying like coins for my Xbox. I’m spending like a $1000
to get the VC on my Xbox. I’m like just doing wild shit and like just doing a
bunch of electronics. – In-game purchases is crazy over here. – Mom I sent you this. I sent you two of these
cause you gonna need this. I got this one at home. – Hey look just go to
the store and just get four copies of Madden just
because like one of them is gonna scratch I need like four. – Just stupid stuff. You know just buying for no reason. – [Darius] Buying for no reason. – That you wouldn’t buy if you didn’t have this type of money. – I wanna talk about this. I think it was lockout year. I think it was lockout year, right? – Yeah. – You went on a off the court tear. I’m talking about
everywhere you was going. Like from that summer on, you was fifty balling every tournament from Drew League to the
Rucker to just everywhere you was going to see
your off the court swag, when you don’t got no coach around, I could just give 50s out. Like you giving charity out every city? That was an amazing run. And you know about this cause we hear, it be classic, classic kill
mode during the summer. Like you hear people, he done been at this
workout or that workout and he then killed. But you never really see it. The first time I ever seen somebody kill and go to all these places
for the summer was you. It was in a time where
footage was out there where everybody was taping everything. Cause we went to summers
where we went down to Miami, we going there, we coming to hoop. – Killing. – Yeah, yeah we hooping. – That’s when it was no
working out with each other, we coming down there to
straight play five on five and hoop against y’all every
single day and get our game, work on our game that way. But I seen you go on a tear that summer. Boy I was like. – You know we liked to hoop though. You know we was hooping everywhere, and everybody was just trying
to get together and just play. You know what I’m saying? Just at least a game
style somewhere you know. So we had all them games. I’m like ain’t no structure, we all playing pick up. So whoever the best out here, they’re not going to get the most shots. So everywhere I went they was just rolling the red carpet out for me. And I’m like man I’m
just sparring right now, I’m just getting my action in, cause I can’t really get no game action. – No game. – I’m tired of working out. I’m just trying to hoop. – So what did that do for your confidence? – That was a key summer for me. It was key. – That’s what I’m saying like I know like when we be in Chicago playing, you know how it is like
you had your best year when you come fresh into camp, and fresh into it. I was bopping. Like you really been right leading into it into your highest peak. Like you been playing, you been working out, you’ve been getting it in, and you feeling like
you’ve been killing fools. Like we was looking, I’m like yo. Young boy like really making
a statement right now, letting it be known like
what y’all gonna do. – Going into that summer, we had just lost in the
Western Conference finals. That was our first time there. And you know I’m working out a month out, not even a month, like two weeks after
the season’s over with. And not expecting the lockout. So I’m just working out and hooping like I usually do and we
just going everywhere. Man let’s just get together
and workout at least. – [Quentin] Is that when you had the van? – Yeah, yeah, yeah. – Man had the commercial going. – [Kevin] I was playing so much. Nike was like you might as well just turn this into something. Something cool. – That was a dope little movement y’all had with the van bro, I remember that. – It was cool to keep basketball going, cause that lockout man. – Yeah that was whack. – That was whack. It was whack but I know it has to happen when it comes to the business but we just had to keep the ball going. It was tough to not play. Everybody was feening
for hoops at that time. – It was a good summer cause
I watched you all summer. 50 ball every state. Like you was in every state
just coming in, just 50ing. – Man you know how it feels when you’re out there just hooping. And you got the rock all the time. You’re just working on stuff. – And everybody wanna see. And how live the crowd. – Yeah. – That’s that free money. That just we in here. – I’m taking 50 shots one game. I’m taking 55 shots, I’m like I just need to get
them up to see if I can. You just work on your game. – You were shooting
that jump deep as hell. When you was coming up, somebody that the world might not know or somebody that pay attention to, the world might do know or heard of him. That you was like a walking bucket. Like every time you see him, man he scored like with the best of them. Who was that person that you was like man? – Just anywhere? Or just in the league? – Anywhere. – There’s a lot of dudes
that’s walking around here that get buckets on anybody in the league. – Definitely do. Not in the league just somebody
that nobody might not know. – So there was this dude
in our neighborhood, name was Kurt Smith. He was like 5’9″ point guard, but he was one of those like, he played like Sam Cassell. You know when they back you down, they back anybody down
shoot the turn around J. It don’t look good, but he’s scoring every time. So it’s like he still impacted the game. It was like no matter who was on him, we play outdoors all the time. Even when I was in the league, league dudes playing against them. – He’s still getting gravy. – He’s still getting buckets, getting to where he wants to get to. He played at Drake and he
played back in the day, and he was in the Capital Classic. So he’s actually played some ball. He could have played in the league. He was in a training camp, you know how that goes. – Yeah, yeah. – You get to training camp for bites. But he was still solid up
until he was probably 36, 37 playing around the neighborhood. – [Darius] Still getting buckets. – He still had game though. All the OG moves that I learned, back down, turnaround fades, all that. He was doing all of it at 5’9″. – Who taught you how to shoot? Like who taught you your form? Like you’ve got good form. You’d be so tall you got high arc. You know what I’m saying? Like you’ve got good form. And you’ve been having good form since the first time I seen you play. – Man I’ve been crafting
this joint for a minute. So when I was like nine
or 10 I used to have to lay on my back and watch Martin until the commercials go off. And I used to lay up like this. – [Quentin] That’s a real one right there. – Until that commercial would come on. Every commercial at the break, I’d do that for like two episodes. I’d do that every night. And that just had me
stuck there for a second. – Who made you? – My godfather who taught me how to play. He brought me in the gym at
seven and handed me the ball. So he was doing little stuff like that in my workout routine. And that shit just stuck. I had to shoot so many shots just one arm in front of the rim. All the way back to the three point line just working every small part. And it just got to where it is now. – Man that’s crazy. – Word. I’m telling you that’s why I be trying to get my kids to like watch the game, every time out knock out
ten pushups, five pushups, whatever like the whole game. Every commercial like just get it in. We ain’t there yet. (laughter) – We came in and we got the
privilege to be with Jordan. – That’s crazy. How was that? – Represent Jordan. – Crazy. – Y’all workout with him? You have a workout with him? – Yeah. – Yeah we used to play against him when I was in high school. He was in high school and college. We used to go to Santa
Barbara and we was invited to his camp and we used to play against him. – How was he in a pickup though? – What? A whole lot of cursing. And a whole lot of buckets. – He was getting buckets easy huh? – Still. – Like easy. When he got to the league
when he was with the Wizards, he was getting buckets easy. – Still. – Still. Like a 40 year old man averaging 20, 21. – That’s getting buckets. – In the league? And like this is the physical league. This is where they can
touch you a little bit. No man, come on now. – He was posting up the little youngins. All of them. – To average that? Like come on be for real. – Yeah he different. – We got the opportunity to play with him, I mean not play with
him but wear his shoes and represent his brand and so forth. You got a deal with Nike
and you got the KD’s. Like my son got KD’s. – [Quentin] You remember my
daughter had a gang of ’em. – It’s crazy to see that. – Them KDs, like they a hot commodity. They were saying something
like you had to sell a certain amount of shoes. I’m like man they loving it. Like everybody was supporting it and wanted it and you got a dope shoe. – Appreciate it. – Like how does it feel
to have a dope shoe? I know coming up and where we come from, and then have your own shoe
and people rocking with it? – [Quentin] It’s the dream. – And they dope. – And like he said, people rocking with it too. – People rocking with you though. – It’s crazy man. It happened so fast. From always getting the Eastbays
and opening the Eastbays. – Like you in the Eastbay and your teams is getting the KD’s for the season. – Yeah it just happened so fast. It’s crazy to think about and then see everybody showing love. And appreciate the story I
bring within the shoe too, it was just a journey. I’m at about 12 shoes right now. And they told me only
me, MJ, Kobe and Bron got 12 signature shoes. I’m like me? – You dropping albums man. You’re like Hov. – That’s crazy. – I’m like me? Where I come from, where I grew up. – That’s amazing. – Just like wanting to do stuff like that and actually do it, it’s like man it’s crazy. All up from the game though. So I appreciate just hooping
everyday that got me that, you know what I’m saying. – Putting your DNA on your shoes. Putting stuff like that’s dope. – Exactly. Everything. Stuff that’s gonna live on. Even though people
might not know about it. But it’s gonna live on
in my family forever. – Straight up. – That’s the most important thing. – Word up. What I wanna ask you is like, back when y’all was in OKC, when it was you, Russ and James Harden, like did y’all three
know that it was like, okay y’all about to all
three be future MVPs, and y’all all three is this cold? Like if I’m talking about like this cold. Like I know playing against y’all, like obviously you stuck out the most, and you know Russ and
James was good but like, I never was sitting there
like okay all three of them are gonna be a MVP at
some point in this league. – Me either. – Like that’s crazy. You going in practice and
going at it with them dudes, and the relationship,
the tightness y’all had, I felt like that was
like to me in my opinion that was one of the biggest
screw ups that they allowed, I don’t know what the whole, how anything went but
just the fact that they, just because the tightness of y’all. And that reminded me of how we were. Like you know it was three young boys that still should be in college level, but they was like all
young and hungry out there, dogs and they was all. – Yeah it was perfect. – But they loved each other. They was everywhere together. Every time you saw one, you almost saw all of y’all. And that reminded me of how we was. So I was like how they let this break up? Like these dudes love each other. These three young boys
is coming up superstars. It ain’t no hating on each other. Everybody loves each other
and they all rock together. And it’s like how you don’t keep that? – Man you know how the
business gets sometimes. It’s out of your control to a point where it’s just like even a great thing. We still gonna be homies, and we still gonna appreciate the little days we had together, but it’s like man if we just
stuck together for real? – [Quentin] Man. – Like for real, for real. If we all just stuck together
and doing what we was doing. It just looked beautiful. But at the same time, it still worked out for all three of us. – It did. – We all went on our own separate paths, and kind of created our
own lanes for ourselves and made a name for ourself, and had some team success along the way. So it worked out perfectly
cause we had enough time with each other to kind
of build a relationship and appreciate how good we were. Cause playing with Russ and
I’ve never seen somebody jump that high or run that
fast or be that explosive ever or anything in my life. You know what I’m saying? And to see that up close every night and know that he has a physical advantage over every point guard
he’s playing against. I had the utmost confidence
walking into every game. I’m like my man is coming
to go hard on all y’all. – All everybody. – And I know it. Y’all don’t know it yet. But he going hard on everybody. He backs down to the point
where it’s like yo chill. Chill for a second big homie. You know what I’m saying? But you like that aggression. And then out of nowhere, cause Russ comes from out of nowhere. He wasn’t even playing
his first year at UCLA, coming off the bench. He dunk on somebody. Like what was number zero? Alright better we got Darren
Collison and Arron Afflalo. Then the next year, that’s when he jumped
on his sophomore year, and now he’s the fourth pick and now he’s starting point guard. I’m like yo this reminds me of me. Just coming out of nowhere
and stuff happening so fast. And then James the same way. Our paths are just too parallel. Like we all grew up in different sections, but I see the similarities
in how we came up. James though. James is just different. I seen that in college. And high school. Like throwing behind the back passes and pick and roll in high school? Like nobody is doing that. Coming off the pick and roll, manipulating the pick and
roll in high school at 6’5″. Strong, shooting the J. I’m like yeah he different. – I think it just speaks to
each one of y’all individual greatness for what y’all have been able, like you say, as dope as y’all were together, and how y’all had it going and then to have it be
pulled apart like that. You know everybody goes
their separate ways, but still, y’all have still succeeded and putting y’allselves on that level. – All y’all got your own shoe. – Everybody got their own shoe. – That’s crazy right? – But everybody got their own MVP trophy. More importantly, like
that’s bigger than the shoe. – And more importantly our charisma be tied together forever. – [Quentin] Forever. – [Darius] Forever. – No matter what we do. – Memes and like then
the next time little kids will say this was photoshopped. Like no they didn’t play together. Like that’s real though. – They’ll be saying that in a few years. – Like what? That’s for real? – Five more years, they will say hold up,
nah they didn’t play. – That didn’t happen. – Seriously. It’s already happening
today but like you said it’s just crazy to see
how far we’ve all come. It’s so fast. – How proud was you to
see James finally get MVP, to see Russell Westbrook win
MVP and do what they did? I know like you said y’all played together and went on a whole journey
together all the way to the championship and
could have won it, early. – Yeah, man, yeah. – But then y’all break up and then you see them shine and get MVP. How proud are you to see that? – And contrary to what
people would believe about y’all relationship, we know as players that outside of, like we as players don’t feel
the need to answer or address scenarios that the media or whoever may create or whatever they think. Like they can create
whatever narrative they want. And we fine behind closed doors and completely supporting
and rooting for each other. But they think whatever
narrative they think. – [Kevin] Yeah. – So for you to see those
dudes, like he’s saying, how did that feel to see them
dudes achieve those goals and that level of success? And you knowing already how it feels. – Man you just go back to the days that we were working out
after practice and competing. You know who can shoot
the farthest jump shot, how many jump shots we
could make from the corner, playing one on one, playing pickup, you know in them little couple weeks before training camp starts. You just think of all that stuff, and you crafting as youngsters, and to see dudes that you
put in so much time with, cause like y’all know, we spend more time with teammates
than you do your family. So like you really getting
to know these dudes and now they on stage getting MVPs, and they making so much money
for them and their families. And they starting families, and like dudes doing so
much with they lives, I’m like yo we getting old. – Right. – We getting older in this league but look what we come from. So hell yeah I was proud cause like once you get
something in this league, and you got other guys
in that club with you, it’s just good to share
those experiences man. So like I said, we’re gonna be tied together forever. – You got any funny stories
with you and Westbrook and James Harden when y’all was younger? Like they was rookies
or something like that, you made them do something, go and get the donuts or something. – Nah, cause we was all so young. I remember one time James got so mad. We had Nate Robinson on the team. – [Quentin] Oh God. – And James and Eric Maynor
they used to always play around. So we’re in practice one day, we’re all at practice. We’re wondering where Nate at. Nate runs into James car,
drives his car all the way around the corner parked
it at the car wash. Ain’t tell nobody. – He ran into it? – He just parked it at the car wash. Out of nowhere. – The best part is that he
risked being late for this. – Yes. – [Quentin] He’s nowhere to
be found to achieve this. – He’s taking pictures like
ghost riding this joint. Like on top of the hood. Parks this joint at the car
wash and like ain’t tell nobody. We walked into the locker room, like James like yo where my keys at? He’s steaming. He hot. He’s ready to fight Nate almost. Like pissed. You know if somebody just moves something, when you’re trying to
leave out of nowhere, you irritated. Man like that’s the first time we ever got into anything
as a team like that. When Nate come on the team. It was hilarious. And I see why James was pissed but like that was the first
time anything happened. I’m like yeah these boys
are different in the league. Especially dudes like Nate. – Did y’all ever have like, did y’all play one on ones, king of the hill? – Yeah, yeah. – I just look at that. Like even just thinking about that, that just makes me feel like
when I see the clips of y’all, like the USA team. Cause that’s like all y’all
boys is Olympic team level. Like how was that? And how did that work? Like that had to be like
one of the best examples of iron sharpening iron. – [Kevin] Yeah for sure. – Like y’all three boys
sparring in one on ones, king of the hill, five spots, three spots, three dribbles, whatever. It don’t get no better than that. – Man we used to bump in practice though. – [Quentin] That’s what I’m saying. – And we used to play five on five, and James used to have the bench mob, and me and Russell would
be on the first team. I’m talking about every practice. If we’re not going full court, we going half court controlled scrimmage. Every practice. Scott Brooks, we’re not calling no fouls. – [Quentin] It’s going down. – We going down. And we playing a little side, throw it at the elbow one on one, just in the middle of practice just to throw something in there. We doing this everyday. I’m talking about dudes is, we hacking, we throwing elbows, we’re going hard in practice
so when we got into the games, nobody was punking us. We had Perk too when he got there. He was really the enforcer
and knew what was going on. What he learned under KG. So it was like we had that
influence in our locker room too. And it was just like man we
just took off to another level. When Scott Brooks was just like, he just let us go after that. And man we got so much better. Just everything. I was learning from James on how to play on the pick and roll. I was learning from Russ
when to be explosive in the lane and go for a left. I was learning little stuff from them just seeing them every day. And you got your coach
who was just empowering us to be who we are. It was a perfect situation. Cause a lot of dudes come in the league and they don’t have that situation, but they might be just as good, you know what I’m saying? That’s just the difference. The little small difference in careers. Like we was in the perfect
environment for our skill. – Yeah. That’s how we was when
we was with the Clippers. Cause we was on the bench and it was me, him and
Corey Maggette on the bench. – Crazy bench mob. – Then you’ve got Keyon, then
you got LO and Elton starting. We used to go through wars in practice. – [Kevin] How was your one on ones? – [Quentin] Man listen we used to for real get into fights in practice. – Like go at it. – [Quentin] Practice is in like that life. Fight people for real man. – I was just like y’all
ain’t gonna act right. Just get up outta here. Get up outta here. – For real. AG like y’all are tripping. Y’all can’t be fighting. Like we used to for real, it used to get to that point cause there were so many
of us all of the same age, first or second year all trying
to kick their career off. Nobody ain’t looking at nobody like you not that much better than me. You don’t just the nod like that. I could work you out right now
and I’m about to go at you. – [Kevin] Yeah yeah. – It was everyday back and forth, nonstop. – Y’all practiced a lot? – Yeah. – Yeah. We was young. Come on man, back then. – And we wasn’t no winning team. Everywhere. – It wasn’t none of that. – And we young. – We don’t even know better. So it ain’t like we know
like hey, we shouldn’t be. Like nah, it’s whatever they say and do, we doing. – Like if people seen me and
Q play against each other, they thought we didn’t like each other. – We was friends. – That’s how it’s supposed to be. – Cause that’s how hard
we go at each other. They seeing it like we
worked out for the Nets. Man Q was going there. They had the number one pick. We was going at each other so hard. – I know I ain’t about to be number one. – And they was over there looking like, we don’t even know what to say. We don’t even want to get in between. – That’s how it’s supposed to go. – You show up at each other. You got the opportunity the last time, a three peat has been done is 2003. Shaq and Kobe. You know that’s the last
time a three peat been done. You got the opportunity to be
in the history books of that. With the Michael Jordans, with the Shaqs, with the Kobes. You know with the Scotty
Pippens, the Dennis Rodmans. How do you feel about, knowing you know your history and you grew up watching all that, how do you feel about
getting that opportunity to win three and what’s
the constant grind? Y’all can win championship after championship after championship. Explain the constant grind to get there. – Man you know first
of all the opportunity to do that man is just, especially with a great group, it’s rare. Especially in the league man
when you get a nice time period to settle in with a
group and play basketball and learn and grow. So it’s good to have that
opportunity and then to win two, and how special that
was and that experience. To comeback with the same team, like I said that business
sometimes gets in the way but that grind everyday man, it’s just that focus
that you have to be on and like in the playoffs. In the series. You know when you get to each round, it gets a little tougher and tougher. The rotations are a little tighter, you might play seven or eight guys, and now you gotta play
42 minutes instead of 37. So you gotta be more focused
for a couple more minutes. So it’s like you just
gotta reach another level everyday with your mentality. And that’s tough to get
up everyday and do that, you know what I mean. Out your bed and really focus on like can I be the greatest finals level focus I can be every single night. And that’s the grind. And it’s hard to do it but
that’s what we get paid to do. That’s what we love to do. What else are we supposed
to do with our time? That’s the hardest part, is the mental part of it now. Because when you win and
you get some success, you expect to wake up and just be like shit I’m just chilling. – [Quentin] Right. – You know what I’m saying, I got two chips, I’m doing whatever I want, I got bread, I could fly wherever I want. But I just wanna keep playing
and see how good I can get at the game and then if we
accomplish a lot as a team, that’s even better. But that grind and
getting up everyday man, it’s tough. – Yeah. – So for me, I look at you as like one of
the best offensive players in the history of the game, right? So how do you feel when
you walk into the gym and you getting ready to hoop, you’re getting ready for the game and you’ve got Steph
and Clay on your team. Like when you’re all ready yourself, it’s one of the most
lethal offensive weapons in the history of the game. And then you sit there and you turn around while you’re throwing your jersey on and you got two of the
greatest shooters to ever put jerseys on period. That’s just with you. Like how does that feel? You already like Steve Nash say, you a bad man, you feel me? And then you’ve got these
two light skinned murderers with you. – Man, you got dudes that
can shoot that accurate, that consistent, it’s just like they’re
reliable every night with the jump shot. You gotta respect everything else cause they open up so much for the team. Like just knowing that you’re running with some dudes that love to play, and that work on the craft everyday, and care about it just as much as you, it makes coming into every game fun. Cause you never know what they could do. Clay hit 14 threes in a game. And that’s just on a random day. – [Quentin] Crazy. – Back to back I’m like. – [Quentin] After struggling. – After struggling, I’m like where is this,
I’ve never seen this before. Out of nowhere like that. And then Steph will hit
51 in three quarters and the crowd going crazy, feel like you’re at the park
playing with these dudes. Then it’s like that’s that real. That’s how basketball is
supposed to be played. That’s how I enjoy playing the game. Now you got three snipers
out there like that, dudes that can shoot that thing. – It’s unfair. – Come on man. – It is not fair. – It’s good to see that
ball go through the rim and hear that net after a jump shot. That’s one of the best
feelings on the court. – How has it sharpened your
game from taking 20 to 25 shots, getting your 30 or your 35 points to now, you might get 30 with 12 shots. You might get 30 with 15 shots. You don’t really get
no more than 15 shots. But to go from shooting all the shots to every shot gotta count when you shoot. How much did that sharpen you up? – Yeah sharpened me up a lot. – [Darius] Cause I know
that’s helped you out a lot. Like you see it. – It was an adjustment. Cause I didn’t realize how tough that is on a night to night basis
when if I’m one for seven or two for eight to start the game, I usually can shoot myself out of that and get back to 12 for
20 whatever 48, 49% is. But on this team, I might not be able to
have the time first of all. Cause we blowing teams out
sometimes to get back to where I want to get to with
just a rhythm where I feel good. My next shot feel good, not just a percentage, but just like I know my jump
shot feels perfect right now. You know what I’m saying so like, it was taking me a little bit longer to get back to that point. Where I was like I’m feeling
great so now I’m like alright if I get four shots the first quarter, I gotta make sure a couple of those are the easiest ones I can get, or not just like I’m gonna
shoot a step back three my first shot. Or catch and shoot fade
away my second shot. I’m just like let me
get the easy ones first, then open my game up from
the layups to the mid range. And then if I’m feeling good
I can knock down a three. So I just really start
thinking like a big. Like can I get some lays,
can I get a mid range, let me see if I can. – Couple of bunnies. – Couple bunnies first and
see how my J working tonight. Cause if it’s not working, then I can’t be forcing all night from the three just trying to find that, then I end up shooting 44% on the week. And then I’m like oh shit. I’m in a week long slump and I’m like let me hurry up and get out. I don’t wanna even think about that. I just wanna make sure my J feels good. I wanna shoot well every night. Take good shots. It’s good figuring the game out that way, cause anybody could play erratic and I got 40 shots to work with tonight, let me just do anything. – That means you take your heat checks. You don’t take no heat checks. – No I try not. I still do. I still got them games. – Not as many as you used to. – No not as many no. I still have those games, like last game I’m searching for a bucket, cause I couldn’t make a shot. Or we couldn’t generate no offense. So I’m like alright, hesy three. That’s a terrible shot but
I’m just praying it goes in. I’m like I know it’s not gonna go in. But let me just try it. But I don’t wanna take
those shots no more. So I’m trying to get that
little stuff out the game. That’s where I’m at with it now. – So talk about when how it felt to actually
win a championship. Like when you won the first one. I mean obviously you won the second one, and you trying to get a third. But like what did that feel like to you? Like what did you do? Like did that make you
feel like alright people can shut the hell up talking to me, or did you just not even pay attention, when you’re just too happy and just into your happiness with it? Or did you go like man I’m
about to ball out this summer. – [Darius] First thing you thought about. – Like I’m the champ, like nobody can’t say nothing to me. Like champ I’m about to
go crazy this summer. Like we talked to JR, like he went shirtless. He went shirtless, did you do anything crazy, like wild, or was you just like, how was you? – So I watched NBA so much, and I watched all those
moments growing up. And I was just seeing
so many celebrations, the confetti, the ceremony and families on
the court taking pictures. And just the music behind that. So I’m just like thinking about that all the time before you win a chip. Like I wanna see what that’s like. So I just wanna experience what it’s like when that buzzer go off and
you know you’re a champ, and everybody running from the sideline. Like those visuals, that’s all I was thinking about. Like damn my family here. I know how they gonna come down, they gonna meet me in the back. Taking pictures. – You’re setting it up. – [Kevin] I just wanted to
really actually physically go through that moment. So when I did it and I got home, I was just sitting back replaying it. I went to sleep at like six A.M., and then I woke up and I sat
up on the couch the next day and I watched TV. And then my summer kept going. And I’m like damn this shit, this really what it is. Like this is simple as it is. I might have went out to
the club couple weeks later, but I was gonna do that anyway. – Right. (laughter) – You know what I’m saying? Like my shit just kept going. – I just remember seeing
you in an interview, and I don’t remember
who did the interview, I was like they is looking for some type of emotional outburst, my boy is not like. I was like yo he chill right now. He like yo we champs. Like I’m MVP. I just murdered
everybody, like alright cool. But I’m not about to cry, I’m not about to do none
of this stuff that y’all. – I thought I would. I thought I would. – [Quentin] But you could
tell that they was like, especially after you gave
the emotional MVP speech, I think they was like
looking for you to do that. – They were looking for that moment. – And it was like, I was looking like, yo he’s not, he’s not rolling. Like they asking the questions, looking to get it out
of him and it was like that’s not what he on
right now in this moment. – It was cool to do. Plus we knew that we
had a great opportunity. And it wasn’t a surprise to us. It wasn’t like man let’s just
see what we got this year. We come into the season like
we wanna win a championship, we got the team to do it. Let’s go do it. Let’s just finish the job. So after the first one, the first one was emotional, it was different emotions, you feel more excited
and you want that feeling to last a little longer but for me, the second one was just more like man, we’re actually building something. – Word. – We’re a nice team. Like people looking at us
as one of the best teams to ever play in this game. So it’s like that’s
the cool part about it. Obviously the moment was nice. Everybody expecting you to be emotional, but it’s just like knowing that
you kind of stamped yourself a little bit in history so far, I’m 30 years old, I’m like shit that’s cool to me. – [Quentin] Still got some ways to go. – Yeah like that’s pretty cool. So that’s how I thought about it. – Confidence is a big thing. Like where do you get
your confidence from? Cause I know like with you, you played a lot of basketball. Like on the streets, off the streets, on the highest level. And I know you feel that
can’t no man in the world guard you at all. Like you playing the
game against yourself. To have that confidence and keep that confidence and know that. Like where do you get
your confidence from? – Let me say, there’s some dudes out there that I feel that make
the game tough for me. There’s some defenders out there cause I don’t wanna act like I’m just sweeping through everybody. I respect the dudes
that go hard against me every night because they make me better. And I’m gonna always
remember those type of dudes. But I also know I can get
mines off on anybody I feel. So once I start doing it at
the playgrounds coming up, and then I was doing it in middle school, and high school and it went up each level, and then I did it in the finals, I was just like oh yeah. It’s stamped in my mind like
nobody can stop me anywhere. Oh I can get my shit off anywhere and I feel good playing ball on any court. And I know they’re gonna pick
me top five picks anywhere. – Yeah. – If we had 10 guys lined up. Anybody. I know they gonna pick this dude. They gonna pick me cause
I can shoot and I’m tall. So I got that. I feel like I can play on any court at any time with anybody. I’m like shit. What do I gotta worry about playing ball? Let me just hoop. – Just hoop. – That’s how I kinda approach it, and it’s been fun for me ever since. – Who is the best defender? – Tony Allen. Chicago. – Chicago. TA. What that boy say first
team, shout out TA, okay TA. You got bean there, you got KD saying you the
best defender, hey boy hey. – In the league now who
is the best defender? – In the league now, there’s a lot of dudes. – That guard you. – Trevor Ariza is tough. Trevor Ariza tough cause he got
IQ and he long and athletic. And he gonna just play with you sometimes. He might play a little bit of matador, let you get to the cup and everything. He play the game with you. He actually a hooper. I didn’t realize that until like. – [Darius] He got a little
thinking cap on him. – Yeah he actually thinks
the game on that level. So I like Trev. PJ Tucker cause he’s just, those physical dudes, they
make me think a little bit. Cause he used to come into
the game straight elbow me. So I’m like, he’s ready for this tonight. I know what I’m into so
dudes like PJ Tucker, they try to get in to me a little bit. But had me thinking about other stuff. I can’t really try to body and post up, get my post up game all
the time on guys like that. So I gotta move around a bit. So I’m thinking as I’m
having these defenders on me. And then point guards
usually do a good job with their hands. Cause I’m so long on my dribble
they use their hands a lot. But if I get a little bit of space, and I’m inside a three, I feel like I’m making 100% of them. – I hated guarding you. All you do is foul bro. I’m telling you when I
first come in the game I’m like alright he’s skinny, I’m strong. I’m gonna make him feel me first. Pause that. That’s the first thing I’m gonna do is come in and throw a forearm on him. Get into his chest, trying to like look, it ain’t gonna be this tonight young boy. And it’s like bro as soon as he raise up, that’s why I used to tell people like bro, no. If he raise up over you it’s over. Like I’m talking about I’m
guarding him, I’m guarding him, as soon as he gets this area and he looks, it’s curtains. It ain’t, he don’t see nobody. – That’s how I started
simplifying my game plan against guys like that because I grew up playing on the crossing
all that extra stuff, and then these dudes used
to get their elbows in me and put their shoulders in me so I’m like let me look at this spot, run right to it and just shoot it. – That’s what I fear
about the kids these days. They ain’t never been touched before, so it ruffles them when they
get a little bit physical. When I was coming up, you couldn’t call a foul. You couldn’t get a foul. Like none of this stuff. But you too tall. – My pops used to take
me to the courts outside. I’m like 12, 13 and he let me play with the older dudes and we hooping, and I’m out there doing my thing. They older, I’m young. I’m getting to the cup easy shooting Js, easy. And you know I tried some shit, tried to dunk on one of the OG’s they take me out the air on concrete. And you like oh shit. I realized what this game about. And then you go into the
league and you see these dudes who just physical as soon
as they come into the game, that’s their role. So you gotta adjust. And like playing outdoors my senior year, they had this dude on the outdoor court around the neighborhood. All he did was foul everybody. You know what I’m saying? He was the Dennis Rodman of the. – Right. – I played against that coming up. A lot of people don’t realize, like I was outside playing
against this type of stuff. – That means a lot. – But you know I used to play against a dude like that in the park, his name was Mississippi. We used to call him Mississippi. – Strong and shit. – He used to just hack all the time. – Box out heavy. – But they used to train my IQ. I still know how to get off
knowing that I got somebody out there intentionally trying to foul me. – Wherever you at, shout out to Mississippi. – Mississippi. – If you still out there. You sound like you was a beast. – [Kevin] Flagrant two on everybody. – I want him to talk about defense. Like you long and agile
and you gotta have defense. Like I thought you had
good defense in OKC. Now that you on a
championship winning team, they try to say that all of a
sudden you got this brand new defense like you didn’t
block weak side shots or play good defense. You not a gambler. You’re not one to just running through the passing lane and gamble. You’re not a big gambler. But you play good defense. Like you play good enough
defense where you can guard the other best player
and go back and forth. – [Kevin] Yeah. – Like how does it feel
to finally recognize like man I can play defense, I been playing defense. – Yeah man it’s cool when your coaches just trust you to guard anybody. You know they might
throw me on James Harden for a few possessions or
CP or Kyrie one possession and then Bron I had to
guard him for a full series. So maybe guard a four man
here and there on the switch. So just feeling like I’m
not a liability out there. You know I never wanted to be
one of them dudes that like, yo sub off for defense. I never wanted to be one of those dudes that was on the sideline
at the end of a game. So like I always kind of played defense or tried to learn defense with that kind of thought
in the back of my mind. So like alright how can I
stay down on pump fakes, not foul, use my length. But not gamble. If I see something, try to take it, but usually just try to play
the percentages with my length. Cause like if you’re
shooting over me all night, I like my chances. If you’re knocking them in, I’m like yo that’s a good game. – If I can get you to make a tough shot, like I did my job. – Yeah exactly. So I try to play that way. Keep it simple. And once I did that, I was able to kind of
guard different sizes, different styles out there. And shit if I could play 48, they would keep me out there. You know what I’m saying? As long as I can play every
section of the floor I’m solid. – I wanted to ask you too, top five. – All time? – All time. But my top five, I’ll tell you my top five. But out of my top five
like the 70s and 60s I kind of leave out. Like the Chamberlains, the
Elgin Baylors, the Jerry West. – [Kevin] Yeah me too. – It’s all respect but
kind of in them 80s on up. For real for me that’s really
kind of my history history. – [Quentin] So let’s hear your top five. – Who you got? – In my top five is
Michael Jordan of course is number one to me. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is number two. Kobe Bryant is number three. Shaq is number four. Just seeing they dominating ability. And Lebron probably by
the end of his career is my number five. You know what I’m saying? – Yeah. – Going off what I’m going off, like I said you kinda leave
the Chamberlains and stuff. Just give them their praise and respect and not just leaving them out
but just me being an 80s baby. Who would you say your top five is? If you could put it in a order. – Mike obviously, one. Kobe, two. Shaq three. Hakeem four. Magic. Magic. – I can’t argue with that. You wanna hear mine? – Yeah. – I was gonna say Kareem but I’m like Hakeem was just as good. – But Kareem is the whole show. – He’s the all-time but I
think on the court though. – He’s the leader in all
points and everything. – I know but I’m saying nobody could, Hakeem had the, he couldn’t be stopped on the post. – I feel like Kareem played against a different generation of players though. – No man. From center. From center to Kareem, like he won on all levels. They don’t give Kareem actually the praise that he actually deserves. The only person I seen that was just like what it was is like Mike. – I agree with that. – But Kareem, like had the most points and hard to get the points and all that. The hook shot that can’t nobody do. – [Kevin] It’s timeless. – Nobody can even do this shot. – Yeah that shit will still work today. – He was doing it
fluently like it was like with the shake with it. – Yeah he was off the catch with it. Soon as he caught it. – Off the catch like you can’t
block it and all that stuff. And he won on every level
since he been playing the game. – Yeah. – Like every level he was the
best player in the league. – Yeah he was the most dominant easily. And it was nice and graceful too. It wasn’t like he was
stronger than everybody. – And that’s why I give him his props. – [Kevin] For sure. – Like was dominating. _ No for sure. I’m looking at it from like
a pure skill standpoint when it comes to like. It’s like a toss up between to me, Kareem and Hakeem. Cause it’s just like. – Hakeem was more skilled in my opinion. – He would cross, pump fake, turnaround J. It just to me is more my taste level. – All them players I named in my top four, they was the best player in the league more than three to four years. The best player in the league, wasn’t nobody in the
league better than them. – [Kevin] So if Kareem
was in the league with MJ, would he have been the best player? – [Quentin] Nope. – [Kevin] I’m just saying
but Hakeem was though. – [Darius] No he wasn’t. – I mean he won two rings. – [Darius] The best player in the world was playing baseball when
Hakeem won two rings. – But he won two rings but everybody know who was the greatest player though. That’s what I’m saying. – The best player in the world was playing baseball when Hakeem. – But we knew who the best
basketball player was. – Hakim got to be the
best player that time. – For two years though. For two years? – I’m just saying he was
the next in line after MJ. But we knew MJ was number one. – Kareem them two years
that he was the best player, he would have did something with MVP Shaq? – Stop no. Nobody couldn’t do nothing with Shaq. – Shaq was so dominating. – Time out. Time out. Hakeem is the one who Shaq gives it up to say that he gave him
the business every time. – Yeah in the finals. – Shaq says it himself. – In the finals when he was a youngin’. – I understand young Shaq. – He was a youngin’ though. He was a youngin’. – I understand young Shaq. But I’m talking about three peat Shaq? – No no. – That was a different Shaq right there. – This is what I’m saying like prime Shaq was the most dominant player
in the history of the game. – Nobody in the world
was better than Shaq. When three peat Shaq. – He was the most dominant
person I ever seen. – Prime Shaq is the most dominant player in the history of the entire game. – Okay. That’s what I’m saying though. – Nobody arguing that. – When Kareem was doing his thing, Kareem was the best player in the world for at least four to five years. – That’s cool. – He was. – Like Michael Jordan to
me was the best player in the world from 89 to 97. – If you put all of them up
against Shaq in his prime, he make all of them look like
Chris Dudley dunking on them. That’s how he make them look. Shaq. – No Shaq was dominant but like you said, like that little period, when you’re like the clear
cut best player in the league for like more than
three years, four years, then like. – [Quentin] It’s impressive. – That’s impressive right there. – Yeah if you can get three four years of being the best player in the league. – But I’m saying is like, Hakeem he wasn’t better than MJ. MJ was the best player, even before he won them championships when MJ went to go play. MJ was still the best
player in the league. – In the world. We talking about in the world. – But I’m just saying
Hakeem was still nice and shit but playing in the same league. But if you switched
them two and put Kareem, you wouldn’t just say he was clear cut the best player over MJ. – Right. True. – That’s what I’m saying. It’s hard for Hakeem to be that great when MJ was in the league with him. – You can’t do it. Just like Karl Malone
couldn’t win them chips. – Kareem had his time where
he really didn’t have anybody that was that good in the
league with him like that. Not like MJ, like greatest of all time. – But you can’t go off that. – I’m not saying that. – You gotta play your era. – I’m not saying that I’m just saying like they both would have
been second behind MJ. – Yeah. – I feel like you the best
player in the world right now. Like you the best player
in the world right now. You pick up the torch. You can be the best player in the world for another three, four, five years, and now you the half a
decade of the best player. To be the best player
in the NBA in the world. – When we talk about
best players though like, I try not to even. – That ain’t for you to judge. That’s for us to judge. – Yeah. I’m not saying it’s to judge, but it’s just like now when
we really talking about it, it’s like we got different tastes when we’re talking about the best player. – It’s all opinion even
with the old people. Even when we talk about the
older guys and the legends. – How you dominating games. Like these dudes really
was dominating games on the same level, but one team was winning more. And so we say this guy might
have been the greatest. But like these dudes actually doing kind of the same stuff out there. Like putting up the same dominant numbers. – When Kobe won making the playoffs, or going home first round. – He was still killing. – He was the best player in the world. – He was still killing. That’s how I look at it. – Like I’m talking about he’s going home first round to Phoenix. Everybody in the league know, that Kobe was the best
player in the world. – When I say the best, when I look at these dudes, I’m like this dude is unguardable
by anybody on the floor. I think he’s the best guy
walking on this court right now. I seen that with Mike on every court. And I also seen that with like Hakeem too. Like I was like my eyes can’t lie. I seen these dudes take over every game they had been a part of. – I’m not taking away from nobody. Cause it was a lot of good players. Lot of good players in the era. Like Barkley was a player. – Penny. I’m like all of these dudes was nice. – Penny, Grant Hill. Like you had great players. The Dream Team was full of great players. But to be amongst the wolves
it’s the leader of the pack. It’s somebody who’s uno numero. Like Jordan had to work his way up. Like when Jordan was doing his thing, Magic, Isiah, and Larry Bird, they fighting to be the
best player in the world. – Yeah. – That’s one of the main
reasons that I feel that Kobe is constantly disrespected in this whole GOAT and everything. – But that’s why I said Kobe there. – No I’m not saying that y’all did it. I’m just saying period. That I feel like I
literally had to guard him. Prime, three peat, all the way to whatever you wanna say. Bro, you hear me like please. What are y’all talking about? – [Kevin] It’s ridiculous. – My top five is MJ, Kobe, easy Kobe. – Easy number two ever. I don’t even wanna say number two. He’s just up here. Not a greatest but in
terms of skill to me. – It’s MJ, Kobe, Shaq, then I’m going Lebron. Then I go Kareem. – See I like to put these
dudes in there when they done. When they retired though. That’s when I really get
to evaluate the career. – I really don’t really use
Kareem as a measuring stick, because he like he said, he’s in the 70s and pre all of that. And he just greatness. I don’t wanna even really mess with that. – To me he’s like one
of the founding fathers of this whole shit. – That’s what I’m saying
like him, Bill Russell, they just like over there. They’re way over there. You don’t even mess with them. – So I put Kareem, y’all are the towers of this whole shit. Y’all helped build this whole thing. So it’s hard to put them in there. Plus they big fellas. – [Quentin] That’s what I’m saying. Like that’s why I kinda
just leave them over there. – They really positional players. Like dominant just at that position. I’m on the block with it. – I can’t not put Shaq in there because he the baddest
dude to walk this planet. – He’s so current too though. – That’s what I’m saying like man. – He was nothing we’ve ever seen. – And he’s seriously, he transcends any, I don’t care what year, what era, he gonna monster heel everybody. Nobody in no year, no time was bigger or stronger. They can’t deal with it. Nobody. – [Kevin] You had to just
relax while Shaq won it. – You name em. Darryl Dawkins, none of them. He’ll make all of them
look like little kids. Like for real he was a monster. – He was the first one
that big to move that easy. Cause you know all the other
bigs was long and lanky. He moved so fast and he
was dunking stuff so easy. I’m like how does this dude
get to play in the league. – Like Darryl Dawkins shattered glass. Like he brought down
the whole foundations. – The whole court. – You hear me. – Shaq used to dunk on people like. Y’all played against Shaq
and them prime years. – Trust me. – Three peat. – That man body hurt. Man of steel. – They starting games off doing what? Tossing that right down there. – Spin around lobs and stuff. – The number one and number
two player in the league, the number one and number
two players in the league was on the same team when
we got to the league. – But that’s what I’m telling you. – [Kevin] You had to
chill for a few years. – Guarding Kobe, like you remember the scene
in Love and Basketball when Sanaa Lathan she
defending and it’s crazy. That’s my description
every time guarding Kobe. Like bro, everybody knows it was that one point where he literally is the
one player in the league, he might shoot a left hand. He’ll do anything. You can’t put nothing past him. He’ll do anything. – He’ll try anything. – That’s what I’m saying. He was out there like
I’ll try it on you boy. I’ll try something and not even care. Like I’ll try something on you. And being like how you out there like bro, this dude here. – Knowing some shit. – What? – He’s on some shit. – Please. And they disrespect him constantly. Like nobody had the mentality that he had. Like man that man would like it’s kill everybody all the time. Can’t nobody fight me. You say something to me
I’m putting 50 on you. And I’m not saying it. I’m talking about literally I’m about to try and put 50 on you. And I’m gonna talk bad. – ’05,’06 season I think. – [Quentin] That man was a killer. – I was staying up late, sitting in high school
watching him going to work. I watched the 81 point game live. And when he got to cooking in that, I was like this is the
greatest player I’ve ever seen. I really thought that that night. He’s shooting fades, he’s coming into the
lane stopping on a dime. Give you two pump fakes
right before three seconds, I’m pulling up. – [Quentin] Playing hard, physical. Oh okay. – Screaming after he dunked. – That what you? Oh okay. – Like all the best defenders that I heard of in the league coming up, like before I got into the league. The Bruce Bowens, the Shane
Battiers, the Raja Bells, like he was really going
right at them, every night, and he was really trying to punk them. Like he really tried to show it. Like they was good defenders. They got paid for playing defense. And Kobe was like no. Stop playing with me. – [Darius] Nobody was
gonna get no name on him. – No you weren’t getting
a Kobe stopper name. Ruben Patterson. Stop. – Game winners on that boy. – No he was cooking them peoples. He’s too good in this league. Cause he was like the rest
of the two guys in the league was catch and shoot threes, or they was great defenders, or they couldn’t really shoot, and there was pick and roll guys. It was not a complete two
guard around at that time. Like not real complete like Kobe. Except for what, T Mac maybe? – [Darius] Yeah Mac was the next thing. – T Mac was close. He was the closest thing. But he still wasn’t Kobe. – [Kevin] All those two
guards in the league. – That’s what I’m saying. Like he made anybody who even had a run to threaten the throne, he just. – He was cooking all of them. – The next best two guards
was AI and Ray Allen. Was the next two best. – Mike Redd came up a
little bit after that right? – Yeah. Mike Redd but
the next best two guards was at the time was AI and Ray Allen. – [Quentin] And T Mac. – But T Mac was a small forward. – [Kevin] Yeah I looked
at him more as a three. – He was playing small forward. T Mac was killer too. – AI couldn’t guard Kobe. – [Quentin] No. – I don’t think Kobe could
guard AI a whole game. – No. – Yeah they weren’t a matchup. – That’s no real matchup. – But Kobe used to try to run up on it. Like he was. – So we could do the
better in the 90s now. – No I wanna say one more thing man. Stop cutting me off. Better today or better in the 90s? Jerseys. – The jerseys in the 90s was better. – The jerseys in the 90s was better. – Yeah. Technology better today, but the style was better back in the 90s. – So what’s your favorite
jersey from the 90s? I know mine off the top. The old school New Jersey
Nets Drazen Petrovic joints. – The blue with the red. – Them joints was hard to me. – The Suns. That’s just a classic joint. The Suns with the side. And the Grizzlies. The Vancouver Grizzlies joints was fire. – I was just finna say the
Toronto Raptors though. – But Toronto had the best one. – The Damon Stoudemire. – And it had the little raptor
on the front with the ball. – That was the first time, that was like the funkiest
NBA jersey of the time. – [Darius] Toronto Raptors joint was hard. – That was the one. The purple joint with the stripes. – And when Orlando dropped
that black pinstripe. – The pinstripe. – The Chicago Bulls pinstripe still the best jersey of all time. – They was after though. We bit after the Magic already did it. – Yeah it was after the Magic. – But that was still stupid hard. – Oh yeah that was after the Magic. – Yeah yeah. So better in the 90s or now. NBA player handshakes. – They better now. – [Quentin] Yeah they do everything. – They do everything. They back flip and they nay
nay and all types of stuff. – Yeah I miss Russell and. – Cameron Payne. – Cameron Payne. They used to rock the joint. – They used to get it in. – I used to wonder like, and you knew it couldn’t be all rehearsal cause they would go off
board and do their own thing. – Man, what? – [Quentin] They just be wildin’. – Better in the 90s, or better now. The layup line. Like how they do in the video when everybody jump when they dunk. Like in the 90s. – I like the regular layup line. Get ready for the game man. All that extra shit. Man get back to the line. – So it’s better in the 90s? – Yeah man. – You couldn’t touch the rim
so everybody had to go up there and get you a quick little drop in. – And run back to half court. Back in the half court right now, man. – [Quentin] You get a tech if
you dunk in the layup line. – Now they let them dunk
so hard in the layup line. I’m like they gonna break the
goal before the game start. – Yeah back in the 90s was better. – I kinda know the answer to this but I’m gonna ask it anyway. Better in the 90s or now. R and B music. – Come on man. That’s always on the radio
was R and B in the 90s. Coming up. Only was on the radio. Nowadays. They popping pills all
types of crazy stuff. – That’s always going on. Even in the R and B songs you gonna have a rapper featured in it. You ain’t just gonna get no. – Hip hop is crazy right now. Trap music. – What about rap music? Better now or in the 90s? – See that’s the thing
I’ve been thinking about that cause they more artistic now. They all artists at the end of the day. So they a little bit more
artistic with the sound now. But the straight bars back then. Rapping about stuff back then, the content was better. – So he’s a rapper. – [Kevin] No I ain’t no rapper. But I have rapped before. – Yeah I heard a song I used to listen to the song with you and Stack Five. – Oh yeah yeah. Stack he’s really into it. I ain’t into it like Stack. – Shout out Stack Jack. – I was in Atlanta when
he was really going in with the rapping stuff, really being focused on it. If you’re stranded on an island, and you needed five albums
to get you through it. What is your five albums you need to get through this island? – Black album. – [Quentin] Okay. Hov. – Confessions. For me, the Usher album. – [Quentin] Usher’s. Okay that’s a bar. – Gotta pick a Drake album. – Drizzy. – Scorpion album. I mean that’s probably
the best work to me. The new joint he dropped. – So you like that joint? – Yeah it had the R and B album
and different vibes on that. – That was rocking. – Gotta have Drake. – We got Black album, we
got Usher’s Confessions, Drake’s Scorpion. – Midnight Marauders. Gotta have Tribe vibes on there. Tribe Called Quest. – [Quentin] Tribe Called Quest. – After that. Damn that’s a tough question. Then you gotta have Ready to Die. – Oh the Big. Okay I’m not mad at that top five. That’s a solid five albums. – Dance moves. Better in the 90s, better now. – They better now. – Yeah there’s so much now. – There’s so much. They upgraded. – The electric slide still lives today. Cha Cha Slide. Still doing that. – [Quentin] The Casper Slide. – Cha cha now y’all. Cha cha again. – [Quentin] Two times. – Yeah you right. – That’s real. I think I like the young kids, the real young kids, the little little kids that crank it. – The little kids. – It’d be like yo this
is hilarious right now. – Let them grownups dance on the ground. – I ain’t talking about the big kids. Better in the 90s or now. I know this one. In game dunks. – Oh yeah 90s for sure. Man Vince Carter was
windmilling easy in games. Getting dunked on left and right. – [Darius] It was a lot of body to body. – Yeah it was a lot of body to body. – I think what made it
better in the 90s though was that you got to actually show boat. Like when Shawn Kemp cradled that joint and dunked on Chris Gatling
and then pointed at him. Like now you get thrown
out of the game for staring or like you know something
like back then you could stare people down like Mike dunk on them and scream and scream. – Point at them. – All of that. – Shaq dunked on what’s his name and pushed him out of bounds. – Nothing happened. And Dudley throw the ball at him. – Yeah that’s just hoops. – Like now it’s like
you can’t do anything. You scream, stare for like one second. They’re like tech, no you can’t even look at him. But don’t look at him. So it’s like, you know. – No back then they was
getting dunked on crazy. When Vince went baseline on Chris Mullin, I’m like why did you even try that? How you try that in a game? You go baseline on a random
drive and you just windmill. Come on. Nobody’s doing it. Greatest dunker of all time. – To see him now still do it. – He’s still out here doing it. – He was about to dunk
on Karl Anthony Towns. If he was in the air. Like he had seven threes the other night. He hit seven threes. – Shout out Vinsanity. – He’s 41. That’s amazing to see
Vince Carter like that. – Who would ever think that
we would be talking about him and his legacy and it
wouldn’t be about dunking? Like it was no way that his
legacy wouldn’t hang on dunking and this man then rewrote everything. And he out there like he’s
breaking all kinds of records. It’s crazy. – It’s sick to me cause my
first ever basketball jersey, I’m in third grade was Vince Carter. Now I’m playing against him. Third grade and he’s still in the league. Like that’s crazy how
long he’d been around. That’s crazy. Sixth grade. – Football. Better now or in the 90s? – In the 90s for sure. I mean it’s safer now though. It’s safer now. But football, they was hitting back then. They was hitting. – [Quentin] Steve Atwater. Ronnie Lott. – Them safeties was really
putting an imprint on the game. – Linebackers was coming around on him. – Man what. But now defensive lineman. I seen a defensive lineman
run a 4.4 the other day. I’m like these boys are growing. – The DK what’s his name? – Oh yeah yeah. – Metcalf, DK Metcalf. – He’s a physical specimen. He ran like 4.3. He lift like 27 times on a 225 rack. I’m like who is this dude. – He look like a linebacker. He looked crazy. – He a receiver? – Yeah receiver. – He gonna be wreaking havoc out there. – That’s like the 2.0 TO. Let’s see if he can live up to it. – Man that’s a lot to put on him. – Celebrations. Better now or better in the 90s. – Man the 90s, man. That’s where it started
really to be honest. They had to reign y’all in, they had to tone it down with
y’all now we can’t do nothing. Cause y’all done wild out
for about 10, 11 years. – They didn’t use to
like when we did that. Some of the coaches. They didn’t use to like what we did. You know, always we wanna
thank you for rocking with us, right now this the Q Rich, D Miles, the Knuckleheads live on location. We at San Francisco, straight across from the
Golden Gate Bridge over there. My man. Easy money, aka KD brought
us into his space man. Rocking with us. We definitely appreciate it man. Much love. – No doubt man. (“Going Bad” by Meek Mill featuring Drake)

100 thoughts on “Kevin Durant joins Knuckleheads with Quentin Richardson & Darius Miles | The Players’ Tribune

  1. Bruh the weed is waaaaay to heavy lol they put KD in the fucking sunken place how is he supposed to answer questions

  2. Damn q ask the question elaborate ask the question again elaborate elaborate elaborate then let them answer.

  3. Two Words…VINCE CARTER!! guy was a straight killer at shooting guard. Had bounce, a tre ball, defense, and finished at the rim with the best of them!

  4. Daaaaamn how'd you even name those albums. 4 outta 5 match with the exception of Drake. Who the fuck is this paging me at 5:46

  5. NBA commissioner Adam silver fixed series how many excuses does warriors have u believe the 3 peat is crooked fake warriors have to suffer because they are crooked fake country
    Kevin Durant is crooked and fake player racist trader u understand .that soon get out of the team's championships. N chicken to play with warriors scared to three peat wake up fans of crooked fake NBA basketball sucks now u don't see that excuses does warriors need a ride home now good Ritz

  6. D Miles is right on Kareem. He doesn't get just do. Kareem was the best player on every single level. From High School, College, and the Pros. Kareem is the true GOAT

  7. This is the first video that I can tell was heavily edited. I wonder if KD asked them to remove certain parts. They were talking about OKC and then it was cut.

  8. "Everybody in the league knew Kobe was the best in the world." Thank you! From the players mouths themselves. Preach fellas preach! Only the advanced analytics folks see it differently they need jobs too I guess.

  9. MJ had zero affect on Hakeem not winning rings… MJ didnt stop Houston from making it to the damn finals….teams from the east have absolutely no affect on whether teams from the west make it to the finals

  10. even pros just dont get it… Shaq aint gonna do shit to Wilt …get a grip… wilt was as big but stronger … people just gont get it SMDH

  11. Q…. the same way you studied other players before you, you need to study how to be an interviewer! ๐Ÿค”

  12. Darius miles and Q some clowns. Who remember miles hating on Lebron before he even got drafted then miles bum ass gets traded 30 games in the season ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Yal some haters ainโ€™t body taking these dudes seriously

  13. Shouldโ€™ve ask what was the feeling of finally beating Lbj in the Finals? Even tho KD was on a pretty well stacked team, what was His thoughts on Ppl criticizing Him

  14. I cried watching this episode. This one is special. The respect you showed to Kobe Bryant ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ…God bless you all. Greatest podcast on YouTube ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฝ

  15. Well…….. I stopped it after miles said "u the best player in the world". We know who the best is.

  16. Shout out to Eric Maynor. He used to rebound for us at the park when I was a kid. Then he made it to the league

  17. D miles asked KD personally his top 5 best players only to disagree with him just for a fact he chose Hakeem than Kareem. Cmon man we all have different answers to this. All are great players.

  18. How y'all say Shaq was the best player in the league those 3peat years but have Kobe over Shaq I'm lost๐Ÿค”

  19. when the media speaks on Kobe…its always some blasphemous disrespectful shit but when REAL players speak on Kobe…they always speak the real to real…mad respect & salute to Q DMiles & KD for paying real homage to Kobe & especially KD for shedding that light on Hakeems' greatness…by far theGOAT of all bigmen in my book

  20. When KD is just talking, like just kicking it with guys he cool with, you can really hear the Maryland in his voice ๐Ÿ˜‚

  21. Thank you for a show like this!! I am so tired the phoney, loud talking Stephen A. Smith type guys who could not make a bucket from 1 ft.

    They know basketball and the discussion toward the end, (what we call an arguement at the barbershop), was incredible. Better discussion than anything Smith and the rest of his no nothing nuts could have ever had.

    To listen to them talk about favorite Jerseys those guys on shows like Stephen A Smith would not understand how you are on a team and love another Jersey.

    This is true basketball talk. Love this show should have 5 times as many Subscribers.

  22. You could tell KD is having a lot of fun in this interview. He really loves the game of basketball!

  23. Bron been the best in the league for 10 years plus tho lmao and still is to this day so theyโ€™re contradicting their own arguments

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