Joker “2019” Spoiler Discussion – High Council Podcast – Our First Video/Joker (2019) Review

Joker “2019” Spoiler Discussion – High Council Podcast – Our First Video/Joker (2019) Review


we are here in comic world and we’re
gonna be doing kind of a nerd news podcast coming to you just just about
bi-weekly calling forward and to get started today we’re gonna be talking
about the Joker movie now that’s so this is a big deal going on right now
oh the Batman’s got something to say Joker movie boy so we all saw it
together and and I’d like to just go through and get what are you guys as
thoughts on it before I get into mind cuz I think my thoughts are completely
different from yours when I take the movie kick it off breath I thought it
was good honestly I mean yeah it’s it’s a good adaption of Judo I mean I don’t
know if it’s exactly like how the comics portrayed newman’s but you can easily
see it being the beginning of it I actually thought that it was a much
better movie and description for what it’s like to have depression and to sink
into how it is medically from having mental instabilities and whatnot I’m
quite sure that people go through that kind of stuff all the time
but as a comedy Marvel has to throw all these action sequences DC goes our ever
we’re gonna make a movie about a clown and pretty much wipes forward I mean
definitely like it is super different from what Marvel does from the Marvel
formula that has been called that everything’s the marble formulas
something tense and then you know there’s a joke and it completely breaks
yes everybody’s a comedian in the Marvel everybody you know and I thought that
says yes I think that goes all the way back to the Robert Downey jr. because he
was the first one he would break everything with comedy and but that’s
Tony Stark though yes he would played a great Tony Stark when he did that and
but then you go into Thor’s not comedic he shouldn’t be no yeah I watched me all right you know I
think the Joker movie was perfect it’s the Joker that I’ve been waiting for
this whole entire time his descent into madness and it doesn’t matter if it
follows any kind of DC timeline because in all comics the Joker always says it’s
it’s great to have a multiple choice when it comes to your background so we
didn’t even know in the movie what’s real what’s not and it’s really I think
it’s awesome that how it shows how he goes from halfway normal down the rabbit
hole to being the Joker where he’s hyper saying he kind of sees everything for
what it is a big joke I love it I know you have concerns with the Marvel movies
idea like the Marvel movies they I you know but we’ll get into that I mean I
liked them but for different reasons okay are spoilers oh yeah because I just
spilled the crud out of it so for me I think the it would have been interesting
and always think about like things that would have changed or clarified with a
movie things that I thought would have been really interesting would have been
having it set up so you have context for the fact that some of the Joker’s
background story was true even though he’s at one point convinced it’s not
true so the Joker’s told the first mother tells him you see what they did
they brought in fan theory because that was one of the fan theories is that he
was always Thomas Waynes illegitimate son and he was always Bruce Wayne’s
brother really it was yes they never thought yes
that was the theory that they had it would have been really cool to have seen
where and what where you actually see them sitting down with a lawyer and at
one point you’re like the Joker is getting gas lighted and then
you know when Batman’s your dad is shot you no then it’s poetic justice then
it’s interesting it was still interesting all right so here’s here’s
my main question take Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker and put him up against Batman I
I just don’t see it happening no I mean the only Batman that he could even stand
up against would be batfleck because because it was dark and gritty but even
then I don’t think there’s a Batman in the DC Universe right now that’s out
there live-action that can compare to Joaquin’s Joker I could play with that
we never wrote the superhero he’s a hero super prepared so you can’t prepare for
somebody who’s chaotic you can’t so any Joker it’s like that’s his kryptonite
he can’t prepare for the Joker that’s the point but he does since you feel
he’s Batman they’re you feeling this Joker is predictable and even the movie
has you set up thinking like well didn’t necessarily see there’s parts in there
where you you’re not really sure he’s crazy or not I’ll give you that but yes
Batman can always go up against the Joker
he always predicts what the Joker is going to do but I understand that I’ve
seen you know the movie you’re an expert and all but I have to get he is he’s
read a half a comic and you know 10 ten minutes of each but yeah all right I
just did not find him menacing like I think you could take the name Joker out
of it and it would just be a mental health awareness movie yeah yeah but
like I did not get the mark hamill level of craziness or you know he fled your
level of craziness like Cesar Romero’s level of manic yeah Cesar Romero’s the
best we don’t bring up Heath Ledger in the store sorry guys
no no we have to yeah I know but you know no it’s Mark Hamill is the best in
he’s ledger we don’t talk about him that’s okay it’s my opinion wait in my
store so yeah yeah yeah I understand that cuz I threw it out there and I’ll
take it on any day that’s right but ya know I disagree I love the movie I loved
the movie I think it should get all the awards for the year’s best movie of the
year Joaquin Phoenix blew it away but she
this was the beginning of the Joker he’s not supposed to be super menacing in the
very beginning he became he was a normal person where he’s like happy with
everybody to the end where he was starting to be the Joker this other
thing is you don’t even know if this is the real Joker I know all yes yes I mean
we don’t though there’s no way this was supposed to be a standalone we if he’s
setting up to be the kind of like though what is that he’s he’s setting up for
the Joker but see they did that in Gotham were they were they yeah it was
the spirit yeah it was like the guy before the Joker than it came in after
the Joker yeah see that you know I guess they got away with that they always but
that Joker there was like some serious copywriting issues when Warner Brothers
did not want them to use the name joke joke yeah but in the day you could not
identify that he was the Joker so yeah I just don’t think they did that with this
movie worth I think he is going he is the Joker you sir that’s it but they’re
not planning on making a sequel someone although I think yeah anybody I’m
telling you right now if it does really well they’ll make a seat why think
Warner Bros I’m willing to bet a little bit now you
know I don’t know but there’s some things that they won’t make a sequel to
because this is good by itself if they make a sequel it’ll ruin the first move
okay let’s solo should never have wavy floor yellow came out okay yeah all
right all right listen first of all palm bracing was amazing yeah
yeah we are we are gonna cover Star Wars but not yet we’re gonna we’re gonna
cover Star Wars at a later segment right now I want to stay on with Jill group
and really drive home that I did not see him as nearly as threatening as he
should have been I could say this if you go see The Joker movie it’s going to be
different than any other Joker movie out there yes and that’s the point it’s
gonna be anything if people will take different things out of it is a shot
like but the most famous I mean I think that was the coolest part of the thing
honestly when I jumped out of my seat in the theater in here oh gosh yeah and I
was like because Robert DeNiro I don’t think has ever really been shot and they
may be home and then when he’s like knocked up and you’re thinking he’s
gonna kill you know shoot himself when he’s like boom and I was like yes about
time and then he shot him again Robin arrows playing dead I’m like that was
the best ever so he should get everyone points for that you thought he was gonna
shoot himself yes we thought that that was that would have ended it they don’t
want to send there’s no there’s nothing right there’s not to be a movie but he
didn’t I did but see Batman still would have plan for that yeah you know why cuz
he’s Batman yes you’re holding Batman that’s right my buddy

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