Jainism: Teaching Religion or Spirituality – Podcast Ep. 8

– [Sadhvi Siddhali Shree] Jai Siddhatma everyone. This is Sadhvi Siddhali Shree here with my spiritual teacher and guru Acharya Shree Yogeesh
for the eighth episode of Acharya Shree’s Podcast. Acharya Shree is a
respected enlightened one who has helped thousands of souls progress on their spiritual path
and totally transform. Welcome to all of our new listeners and thank you for tuning in. Mathen Vandami. Acharya Shree in our last
episode we were talking about leaving religion or transitioning from religion to spirituality. And often times in our
podcast or YouTube videos you refer to the ancient
religion of Jainism. So a couple of questions arise because are you a Jain teacher? What is the Jain system? And are you teaching us
religion or spirituality? If you can explain that thin line there. – This is an extraordinary question but I’m not sure if it will be
extraordinary answer for it. – [Sadhvi Siddhali Shree] Oh you are
an extraordinary soul, so I think it’s gonna be
extraordinary anyways. – I don’t teach. And I don’t think that I’m a Jain teacher. I am just I AM. But I mention about
Jainism a lot in my talk, because Jainism is one
branch of Samanic Tradition. I follow strictly Samanic Tradition and Samanic Tradition is the most ancient in the world actually. So Samanic Tradition,
Jainism one of the branch of it these days. Is the only branch which is closest
to the Samanic Tradition. All the other tradition or
branches diminished, finish. Like there was Sankhya System,
which is almost finished. There was the original system of Buddhist, that almost diminished. Whatever Buddhism today is not the same. So closest thing I think
Samanic Tradition is only Jain. Even though Samanic
Tradition was not a religion, all Tirthankaras, they never
taught any religion at all. They don’t want to add one more branch. So that’s why Tirthankaras are universal. Their teachings are universal, but as soon as any branch become religion, it spoil the teachings. That’s why one of my
problem, difficulty to say that I’m a Jain teacher because
it is not universal anymore. Then you become a Jain and Jain is a box. It’s a little branch and Tirthankaras’ teachings
are for the universe. Anybody can follow
Tirthankaras’ teachings, but it is unfortunate Jain becomes like unknown to the people. Tirthankara is supposed
to be known to everyone. It used to be. That’s what I thought it
is better not to belong to any religion. I teach more spirituality. And spirituality is hidden
in every single religion more or less, but Jainism I mention more because it is hidden a lot there. Like for people there
are one popular book, Hindu Book, it’s called Gita. It’s most popular and it has spirituality is hidden in couple of chapters. Maybe it is collected from
Samanic Tradition too, because it is a karmic,
yogic, and devotional, bhakti yoga, gyan yoga, and karma yoga. There is many things there and it seems like they borrowed the system from Samanic Tradition. And Samanic Tradition is the oldest one. Adinath was the founder
of the Samanic Tradition. And Adinath is the first
enlightened person, enlightened one on this earth. So the Samanic Tradition I follow but Jain is the closest one. Most of the religion they
fall off from the truth. Why? Somehow new additions,
like I give an example how it fall off from the truth. Upanishads, originally
authentic Upanishads, they’re only 13. And even the Hindu believe
that Adi Shankaracharya, he wrote only 11 authentic
commentaries on Upanishads. Maybe by 13 he mentioned. They consider him as a founder of Hinduism and also kind of god to them. But now it is more than It is adding, adding everyday. Even they added Allah Upanishad. Allah Upanishad means like the Islam, because Islam invaded India, somebody wrote Allah Upanishad. Means it is, they are going
far away from the truth. The reality is hidden
into the 13 Upanishads, but after that you go,
you see something going far away from this truth. This way, it is the same thing. Samanic teachings were oral. They were not written. It was passed from Guru to disciple, disciple to another disciple. This way it is a tradition
and they used to memorize it. And in this memorizing thinking, because there was no written system, there was no script those days, and they didn’t write the original. So it got lost, because
even the same words when it passed through the three people, it changes the whole system, because three people will
understand their own way and that’s why originality
of the Tirthankaras’ teachings got lost. And I’m going to tell you the
last Tirthankara was Mahavir. Mahavira was an extraordinary person. Tirthankaras are extraordinary
people on the earth anyway, and he used to teach why I
like still the Jain branch, because it has three
things attracts me too much. One is their slogan, first
slogan it is logo kind of parasparopagraho jivanam. Parasparopagraho jivanam. If you see the Jain branch
logo, pratik they call it. It is written underneath
parasparopagraho jivanam. Co-existence. Co-existence means you let
live people and then live. But what Jains, they twisted it. They say live and let live. It means they’re so selfish people. I cannot believe it. They think about themselves. First live, then let live. No, Tirthankara never said that. They say that let live. Live, when they live
others, you already exist, but if you don’t respect others, or you kill others, and
you hurt them, kill them or you don’t protect them, it means you are not protected either. So that attracts me a lot, but it was good thing co-existence that you live in the harmony. Second of the Jain branch,
it attracts me a lot. So that’s why I mentioned, and that is multiplicity of truth. It is called Anekantavada. Anekantavada is a multiplicity of truth. Truth can be told many different way. It’s a multiplicity. And multiplicity of truth
if people follow today this world today, there is
no fight, there is no war, because multiplicity of
truth is not absolute, you cannot tell the absolute truth. Like Lao Tzu little
bit mentioned about it. It seems like he was familiar
with multiplicity of truth. And he mentioned that the
first line he mentioned in his teaching, that dao, the dao, which can be told is not the dao. Means the truth which can
be told is not a truth. That’s what a multiplicity of truth is. That any person can be
right in their own way. It’s not that they are
absolutely true, truthful, but they can be truthful. We have to understand each other’s angle, each other’s point of view. In their point of view, a
murderer can be very truthful. Forget the good people. Even the bad people can be truthful too, because they see only that much. They see maybe their own way the truth. It’s very hard, but if we follow multiplicity of truth then we will see why this
person is killing others. That means this person needs help. Maybe he is not seeing
the way it’s supposed to be seen the truth. We will willing to help that person. Why this person is drinking too much? Maybe he has some problem. So we have to help them. If we follow this, this is the universal system. Multiplicity of truth the
Tirthankaras’ teachings. And then it attracts me more Syadvada. Syadvada is called Saapekshavada. Saapekshavada is the theory of relativity. And that’s why I respect Mahavir a lot because he gave this theory. He modified it from the Samanic Tradition and he made Saapekshavada, theory of relativity and
who get credit from this? Albert Einstein. Albert Einstein he stole
this theory Saapekshavada from India and people
know that he was genius. Why? Because he gave the
theory of relativity, and relativity is known
more than 2600 years ago. Mahavira mentioned it. That’s what I like the Jain branch a lot and I mentioned a lot. Why? Because this word attracts me a lot. It comes from Jina. Jina means who are the victorious one, who are the winner one. They have overcome from
their Raga and Dvesha. Raga means attachment,
Dvesha means hatred. They’re fully balanced. And Jain is, they’re trying to
follow Jina, victorious one. Who are the victorious one, but they’re trying to
win over their attachment or their hatred. At least they’re trying. This word attracts me a lot. So people need to write the history again that who stole this extraordinary person’s theory of relativity. Albert Einstein. Like Gandhi. Gandhi, he didn’t teach anything else except Mahavira’s teachings. But Gandhi became known in the world apostle of non-violence. But it is the Tirthankara. They are the apostle of the non-violence because that’s what they do. Let live, that’s what their message was. But now the Jain branch twisted it, but they’re still close at least. Their selfishness came. Maybe human is selfish. Jains may be selfish too. They begin to think themselves first instead of thinking about others. They call, they talk about
lot of Jiv Daya, Jiv Daya, Jiv Daya. Jiv Daya means compassion
for the living being, compassion for the living being. But how many Jains they
even rescue animals or rescue anybody? They talk about their
monks, Digambar monks. If you hear their lecture or even Shwetambar monks. If you hear their lecture, they talk about Jiv Daya, Jiv Daya. But not a single Acharya
has even animal sanctuary. They don’t do it and Mahavira’s, if you see Mahavira’s 10 most popular devotees, they
had almost 100,000s of animals. They were farmers. They have to have. There was no technology. So they used to rescue, they used to protect all the animals. That is the Samanic Tradition’s system. And no Jain Acharya is doing that. They call about Jiv
Daya, Jiv Daya, Jiv Daya. Have compassion on animals,
birds, other living being. They cannot speak, but how many. They have abundance of money, Jains, if they begin to see it, they can rescue billions of animals. But they don’t want to do that work. They just want to meditate
Kayotsarga, sitting, standing, by repeating just Logassa Ujjoyagare will open your mind? Hey somebody is starving in your neighborhood. Feed first them. Sometime I think Mohammad
was better than them. Islamic founder. I’m going to share one
little thing about him. Maybe Islamic people don’t know even how compassionate he was. One day he decided to visit his daughter. She was married in the other town. As soon as he entered
to the home, he saw, she is sitting in front of mirror and putting lot of jewelry diamonds. She didn’t even notice,
she was too much into that. And he left right away. But his grandson saw him. Mom, mom, grandpa was here. Why didn’t you stop that? He left. Can you look around maybe he is here in the street somewhere. He found him sitting on the public place very sad, disappointed, frustrated and he said grandpa I found him. That grandpa why didn’t
you come to our home? I don’t want to come. I thought she was my daughter. She is not my daughter. But why? I’m your grandson. You are. The way I raised by daughter, she is not my daughter anymore. Look at hundreds of people starving here. Their body just dying and she
lives in this neighborhood. I’m very sad. He informed the mom. Mom understood right away. She picked up all the
jewelry and diamonds, whatever she has and
gave it to the grandpa. He took there, and he sold it and he fed hundreds of starving people there. Look at there is no selfishness here and he visited his daughter
that you are my real daughter. I didn’t know that you
have that kind heart. If there is no kind heart
by saying Jiv Daya, Jiv Daya it doesn’t work. You need to act upon it. You need to open animal
sanctuaries or bird sanctuaries or whatever other people need. Not a single Jain, they are so much rich. They’re so much rich, rich people, but did you see any
orphanage, any Jain orphanage? No, they don’t have it. They will talk about education. They will talk about this. They will open, oh there is a
Jain chair in this University or that University. They want to spread the message of Jain. But do they following it? No, that’s what let live,
that attracts me the most and that’s why I mentioned
lot of Jain in my system. But I am trying to tell people
follow the spirituality. Spirituality is beyond selfishness. You don’t think about yourself first. You think about the other first. You do yourself too. I’m not against of it. But if somebody in your
neighborhood is starving, or dying and you’re just passing by, even the Sikh religion is
better than Jain sometime. They believe in serving. Serving means when they go to their temple they even clean people’s shoes and they feel proud of it. But Jain, they will come
in their own monastery. They will hire a servant, an employee. But they will not do by themselves. So what is the message? That’s why I cannot tell
myself a Jain teacher. I can tell myself a Samanic teacher. Samanic Tradition. Samanic Tradition was the original and it has a spirituality. Fortunately, Jain agamas, the holy books, they call it agama. They have at least 10% truth in it, even though they follow the truth, but they’re still carrying 10% of truth. So 10% of truth are a lot. That’s what I have to mention. Sankhya system has even
more, but it got lost. We have only 64 Karika. Karika means slokas or verses. And I memorize all of them. So this seems to be beautiful
system, Samanic Tradition. So I try to teach people spirituality. Spirituality means get
connected with yourself. So this way you get
connected with everyone. Once you get connect
to the whole universe, your spirituality begin, but if you are not connected even, you don’t love the vegetation, the animals, the stars, the moon. Look at Jain monks these days. Their face is like very sad. Serious looking. Hey, you’re supposed to be laughing, enjoying this whole nature, the stars, the moon, the ocean, the mountain. The whole nature of vegetation. That’s what it is. If you are happy, they are happy. If you are sad, they are sad. If you are serious, they are serious. And seriousness, sadness
doesn’t mean spirituality. I teach people laughing. Laugh, why, because by laughing all these what you are
holding inside will be out and you will be on the right track. I tell people, you don’t
need to go to the temple or to the church. Just laugh someone. Make laugh someone. You are already in the church or temple. So I am even though I mention
lot of Jain teachings, but I don’t want to
associate with them much. I only associate with
them because that is a one single branch left closest teaching for the Samanic Tradition. And that’s why I mention to them, but for me this kind of
truth is hidden in Gita too, in Hindu, in Buddhist text too. There are many truth hidden everywhere. When the truth we dig it
out, it becomes spirituality. And spirituality is
supposed to be the most courageous, profound
teachings to improve yourself. That’s what I teach
spirituality instead of one branch of the spirituality. Does it make sense to you? – [Sadhvi Siddhali Shree] Acharya Shree, real
quick. You are talking about Jain
system and spirituality but people want to learn more. They want to go deeper, so are you suggesting for people to study the Jain scriptures? – I will, yes, I will tell them to study because there is 10% truth hidden in it. I will still suggest you to
study the Jain scripture, because whatever left over
teachings they’re valuable. – [Sadhvi Siddhali Shree] Because I know
from when you teach us the scriptures yourself,
you point out that this is not the truth, this is not the truth, this is why they teach these things, but it was applying to
a different time period so it actually makes sense. So I think personally
it would be confusing for truth seekers to
study the Jain scriptures without real guidance because you have the scholars, but you don’t have the master there. – That’s the problem because it is very hard to even to learn from the scripture because
they don’t know the language, number one, second they have scholars. Scholars have their own point of view, and scholars they’re not like a masters. There maybe scholars, but the masters will know the truth and they will interpret the way it was but the scholars they
will feel it differently and they will explain it differently so that’s what it is confusing when you read scripture without guidance or without master’s guidance. It is better to have a
teacher not a scholar. A special master to
teach you the scripture. Not the only scholars. Scholars, they don’t apply on their lives. They’re just a scholar,
like university professor. They teach, but it doesn’t mean they apply those teachings in their life. Same thing Jain scholars. They don’t apply on their life. Learn from which they’re following it or applying on their life, monks, nuns at least they’re applying. Monks and nuns are available now even outside of India but the people got stuck. They got people that oh it
is not a Jain tradition. Hey it is more than Jain tradition. It is a Samanic Tradition,
it is the original tradition. It is the Tirthankara tradition. And that’s what we need
to expand these teachings everywhere because this is universal. – [Sadhvi Siddhali Shree] Thank you Acharya
Shree and Mathen Vandami and just for everyone’s knowledge, Acharya Shree has established Siddhayatan Tirth Animal Sanctuary, and he already has established
the plan to open up an orphanage, and if you also didn’t know, he already has a primary
and secondary school that helps 500 children receive education. So it’s amazing because maybe
we don’t post these things on our website, but for your knowledge Acharya Shree is living what he teaches. He is not the person
with the master degree, in that sense, he is an actual master, but he also has master
degrees too and a doctorate. But Acharya Shree is an amazing individual and we are all so blessed
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