EP53: Top 10 Personal Growth Podcasts

EP53: Top 10 Personal Growth Podcasts


Welcome to Success Insider, a podcast for
emerging leaders and anyone seeking motivation, inspiration and business
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you by Success Magazine. Listen. Learn. Grow. Learning is the beginning of
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spirituality. Searching and learning is where the miracle
process begins. Those
are the wise words of the incomparable speaker and author, Jim Rohn. On this
week’s episode, Josh and Shelby discuss the power of learning on the go and
why podcasts are the future of personal growth. We hear from a few of the
leading podcasters about why they feel the same and Josh and Shelby share
their favorite podcasts for you to listen to while you commute, clean or whenever
you have time to spare. And now our hosts, Shelby Skrhak and Josh
Ellis. JE: S-H-E-L-B-Y. Shelby. S-H-E-L-B-Y. Shelby. SS: Hi Josh, how are you? JE: Whew, good. SS: Good peppy start to the morning, huh? JE: Yeah just got out of a peppy meeting. SS: Yeah? JE: I’m, I’m uh pepped up on coffee and-. SS: You’re ready to go. JE: It’s um, it’s incredibly bright outside
as, as uh, as we sit in here. So I’m-. SS: It’s a little bit of a change for us. We’re recording this in the morning, so. JE: I’m wide awake. SS: Yeah, we’re gonna wipe the sleep from
our eyes and-. JE: I haven’t had my two-thirds pound gut-buster
burger yet, which is-. What
do you listen to on your drive in to work? SS: Well thankfully it’s short. But I will typically crank on my Pandora or
my Amazon music app and-. JE: People still use Pandora? SS: Yeah, it’s. So I’m in that in between, because I know
everyone’s using Spotify right now, but I had subscribed for
the year for like six months ago, so I’m gonna squeeze every bit out of it. So, yes. How ’bout you? JE: Well I can either carry a tune or judge
what is good music. I have terrible
taste in music. Famously terrible. SS: Really? JE: So most of the time. I like listening to other people talk instead. And
sometimes I listen to- if I just wanna like zone out and relax, then I’ll listen
to sports talk radio, ya know? My friends who called my boxing match. SS: Yeah. JE: Listen to them sometimes. Um, but most of the time I really prefer this
ever-revolving, ever-improving curated list of podcasts that I really like. And not just this one because if you’ve ever
heard it, then you know that the sound of your own voice on recording is,
is terrible to listen to. So I
don’t listen to this one much. SS: Right. JE: But I love listening to other people who
can, ya know, with their topics and discussions, can really kind of inform my
growth and fuel my mind. SS: Well that’s probably a good, a good way
to definitely fill your time. I mean
I know that the average travel time to work in the U.S. is like 25 minutes. So I mean that’s 50 minutes a day, it’s four
hours a week. Ya know it’s a
lot of time wasted. JE: Shelby, that’s a good day, 25 minutes. SS: Yeah. JE: For me, because- I don’t know what it
is. People just like to get in wrecks
on the tollway and I was the victim of that recently. You know that. But
it’s not the most infuriating thing because I do feel like it’s not time wasted. SS: Yeah. JE: I’m learning something. I’m growing. I’m becoming a better person
because I devote that spare time to the noble pursuit, or whatever you
wanna call it, of self-improvement, of self-growth. SS: Right and that’s- I think we’re probably
preaching to the choir here, but yeah there’s no better way to use that time
when you’re in your car, when you’ve got basically your captive audience. You’ve either got the drone of
road sounds or you can turn on something that really gets your mind
going. So I think that’s a great way to use that
time to grow your brain, grow your personal development I guess. JE: Yeah. And I don’t just do it in the car . I mean
I do it at the grocery store. I
love to listen to podcasts when I’m cooking, cleaning the house, of course. Ya know I’m an overgrown baby. So I still play videogames. SS: Yeah. JE: And that’s a self-indulgent pursuit. Ya know it’s- it is a waste of time. Except I turn down the volume and turn up
the podcast. SS: Really? JE: Yeah, so-. SS: So how many are you listening to a week? JE: Um ya know different ones of different
lengths every week. I’m subscribed
to about 30 podcasts. SS: Wow. JE: And it, ya know, it just depends on where
the mood strikes me. I’ll learn
about everything from- ya know I follow the news, politics and things like
that. But also really instructive podcasts that
are great for getting more out of myself too. And so that time is really not wasted . It’s
basically the same as reading a book. SS: Right. JE: Reading an audiobook. I’m growing. And, ya know, Zig Ziglar, guy that
we love. He said once that when you finish school you
don’t finish your education. It’s a lifetime matter. And ya know I think that we get so
caught up in this idea that learning has to be done in a classroom setting,
or a book ’cause that’s just more traditional. That we forget we have all
throughout our day, every day, these like wisps of time, ya know that-
even if it’s just five minutes that we can take to boost ourselves with- it
may just be a little tidbit or a powerful tidbit. Or an audiobook. Audiobooks work the same way as podcast on
personal growth or leadership or any topic that we really need. SS: But what about some of these denser podcasts? I mean you’re not
exactly able to take notes if you’re driving or you’re in the grocery store, ya
know. So isn’t being able to write those things
down, as Jim Rohn would say, in a journal to not rely on your memory. Isn’t that kind of a part in
learning? JE: Yeah it is. And you can take mental notes if you’re focused
on it enough. But also you can kinda tell while you’re listening
if you’re really enjoying it or not, ya know? SS: Yeah, if it’s clicking, yeah. JE: So those are the ones that you go back
and listen to again when you are a little bit more focused and are able to scribble
some things down. SS: Right and that’s true. I mean it’s not that you’re absorbing every
single piece of information in the podcast, but you
know when something is really clicking. When you have that kind of light bulb moment
or that a-ha moment, like yeah that makes sense. That’s the thing that I was looking
for. And there can be plenty of really dense podcasts,
and we’re gonna talk about some of those today that have lots
of information. But really the
best podcasts are the ones that even inspire just one great idea, one thing
that really turns your day around and kinda breathes new life into your
efforts of what you’re doing that day, what you’re trying to accomplish. JE: Yeah and obviously we’re preaching to
the choir here. SS: Yeah, yeah. JE: Because the folks listening to this – you
get the memo. We know that. You like to learn, you like to improve yourself
and you like to learn and improve yourself on the go. You are a Success Insider listener. But that
doesn’t mean that we can be your only brand. You can branch out and I
think that a rising tide lifts all ships and it certainly would lift the ships of
our listeners. So let’s hear from some others who know the
value of audio, in particular podcasts, because these
are the hosts of some of the most popular podcasts out there. LH: My name is Lewis Howes. I’m the host of “The School of Greatness”
podcast, on the top 100 podcasts in the world with 1.5 million downloads a
month, and I’m a New York Times Best-Selling Author. And I believe
podcasts are such a powerful medium for helping people to learn and
grow. I started my podcast four years ago, doing
one episode a week, and it took off because of the nature of podcasts
and how they’re done. Most of the time people are listening while
they’re working out, while they’re waking up, starting their day, when
they’re commuting. So they’re
activating their mind and they wanna learn something on their time, on
demand. They don’t have to wait for it. They can press play and listen to
it at any time. And you’re activated in their ears. Usually people are
wearing headphones, and you are being so present and informational
during this time for 30 to 60 minutes or however long your podcasts are. Mine are an hour. And, therefore, you’re activating someone’s
mind and learning and growing during this time of day
when they wanna learn the most. So it’s a powerful way. You just gotta make sure you’re consistent
with it. That you are diligent in the production value
you are trying to optimize, you’re teaching and you’re not giving
fluff and that’ll really support you in increasing your business but
also helping other people learn and grow as well. JF: Hey there, it’s Jonathan Fields, producer
and host of “Good Life Project” podcast. So why do I think podcasts are a really powerful
medium? You
know this really came to me a couple of years back when I was having
conversation with a well-known public radio producer and we were
producing video at the time and I was considering a move to audio and I
wasn’t sure it would be podcast or public radio. And I kinda said her, ya
know I was really interested in public radio and she asked me why. And I
said well the reach- I mean there’s tremendous reach on public radio. And
she kind of titled her head to the side and raised an eyebrow like I wasn’t
getting it. And I said, what am I missing here? And she said, well yeah
there is a lot of really great reach in public radio and truth is, these days
podcasting is exploding reach-wise too. But that’s not the big benefit. The
big difference is that audio is an incredibly intimate medium. It’s different
than video. It’s different than print. Because essentially it’s your voice just
entering the ears and the brain and the intellect and the wisdom of the
person listening. It’s like you’re having a conversation with
them. And
then they get to form the visual around that. And in that moment I really
awakened to the power of audio and we started to produce stand-alone
audio content and eventually made the shift entirely from video to audio
and decided to focus entirely on podcasting. And I found her words to be
incredibly resonant and true. Audio is an incredibly intimate medium. You’re hearing my voice and you hear us very
likely right now through headphones. Ya know literally channeling straight into
you. And it
develops a sense of knowing, a sense of rapport, a sense of comfort, trust
and ease that’s really hard to replicate in another medium. And because
of that, it creates an opportunity for transmission and change in a really
different shape and way. So those are my thoughts on how podcasting
can become a really powerful medium and really have the ability to help
people change their lives in a meaningful way that is different than any
other form of medium. Signing off, this is Jonathan Fields. Again, from
“Good Life Project” podcast. JLD: Hey this is John Lee Dumas, the founder
and host of the Award-winning podcast, EOFire, where I interview today’s
most inspiring and successful entrepreneurs seven days a week. I’ve interviewed over 1,600
entrepreneurs to date to include Darren Hardy, Tim Ferris,
Gary Vaynerchuk, Tony Robbins, Daymond John, Barbara Corcoran and
many, many more. We talk about their failures, their successes,
their a-ha moments and really pull out their lessons
learned. I’m personally really
excited to see Success Magazine continue to rock the podcasting world
because this medium is special. It’s free. It’s on-demand. It’s targeted
content that allows you, the listener, to consume it when and where and
how you want – whether you’re driving in your car, whether you’re running
on the beach, whether you’re folding laundry, walking your dog – whatever
it might be, you can listen and you can learn. It’s a very intimate form of
communication as well. Like you feel like you get to know the host. It
really seems like you can live the story and the lessons that come from
this great medium of podcasting. So 2017 is an amazing year for the
podcasting world. I’m honored and touched that Success Magazine
reached out for me to contribute to today’s episode. So I hope that you
have a wonderful year and prepare to ignite. SS: All right Josh so as promised we put together
our own list, our must-listen list of the top ten podcasts to help you live
a full, successful, happy life. We’re gonna go over some of those now. JE: Yeah and we should note these are not
ranked in any particular order. We just chose our favorite ten to share. So the order doesn’t mean a
thing. In fact imagine that we wrote them all out
on a deck of cards and shuffled it up real good. SS: Right. All right Josh so to kick off this not countdown
of top ten podcasts, I’m gonna start with one particular one. It’s “Happier” with Gretchen
Rubin. JE: Happier. SS: So, as you know, Gretchen Ruben, she’s
the author of “The Happiness Project.” Also a book named “Better than Before.” But so on this
particular podcast she and her sister, Elizabeth Craft, they sit down and
they talk- they kinda just have some real fresh, “real talk” about a lot of the
happiness movements out there. I think one of my favorite pieces of that
is the “try this at home” segment. I think that is certainly a popular thing
with their readers, but it’s a great, great listen. JE: Gretchen obviously has had a lot of success
as an author yeah, number one best-seller, and we featured her in Success
before. But the podcast
is one that I know you really love and what is it about her in the audio
format that you particular enjoy? SS: I just like that she’s very endearing
and maybe it’s just the funny relationship between she and her sister. I think that lends an interesting
dynamic that, I think especially with some of the dual host podcasts,
hopefully present company included, it brings another level of depth, a
level of discussion and really kind of brings open the topic, instead of just
a monologue, if you will. JE: Right. You can kind of play ideas off of each other
and-. SS: Yeah. JE: Even pretend that you really like one
another. SS: Ha ha ha. Fake laugh. JE: Yes, good acting. Okay so next up on the list, how about “The
School of Greatness” with Lewis Howes. SS: Yeah so he’s also got a book by the same
title. “School of Greatness.” JE: And a lot of interviews with authors and
experts and people who are just living the life they want, no matter what. SS: Yeah he’s a charismatic guy. I know that the episodes are pretty meaty. They’re mostly about an hour long and he-
when he sits down and does these interviews, ya know, he does have a
lot of conversation back and forth with these thought leaders. But ya know it’s something that’s really,
really grown him quite an audience, quite a following. He’s doin’ some
great stuff. JE: Next up is a guy that I know well. I wrote a Success cover story on him. I’ve interviewed him a couple times for Success
Talks. Don’t be surprised
if he turns up here at some point down the line. It’s Tim Ferris. Tim Ferris
is a self-experimenter. He’s multi-, multi- Time Best-Seller. The first book
was the biggest hit, “The Four-Hour Workweek,” but his latest one is really
a huge hit too and it might end up surpassing it. It’s “Tools of Titans”
where he kind of did what we do, which is basically gather all the best
methods and mantras of the most successful people and compile them
together and ya know the New York Times famously called him a cross
between Jack Welch, the old General Electric boss and a Buddhist Monk. SS: Wow. JE: And I think that’s probably pretty appropriate. Tim’s show is really
interesting. It’s mostly interview-based, although he will
do frequently, ya know questions back and forth. But he gets so deep with the people he’s
interviewing and I am interested in becoming as devoted to being my
personal best as he is. And I think that that’s really infectious
with his podcast. SS: Yeah great stuff. So next up on the list is “The Art of Charm.” This is
somebody that we’ve had on the show recently, Jordan Harbinger. This is
a favorite of yours, right? JE: Uh I’ve, ya know of everything on this
list, I’ve probably listened to Jordan’s show the most, “The Art of Charm.” And it really, for me, huh- he
started as- and “The Art of Charm” started as like a dating school for
dudes, right? SS: Yeah. JE: But I was actually turned on to the podcast
by an old friend of mine who happens to be a woman. So it’s not just that anymore. He’s way evolved
to be for- applicable for all audiences and it’s totally G-rated. And it’s not in
any way like slimy, like you think of dating schools. It’s actually about like
helping people be more confident and when I picked it up I was getting out
of a long-term relationship and so I didn’t like remember how to date or
remember how to be like open to meeting new people and stuff like that. SS: Yeah. JE: So charm, I think, as he defines it, is
really just about how to put the people around you- to make them feel comfortable. That’s charm. Your
own confidence is a big part of that, so for me, when I started listening to
it, I was really interested in all the guests and the methods that Jordan
teaches about growing your confidence. And that’s what we had him on
Success Insider for recently. SS: So this isn’t the old seduce and destroy,
how to make women fall for you madly and get them to wield to your ways. Like this is true confidence and
how- and learning how to be comfortable in your own skin. JE: Yeah. SS: And how to put your best foot forward
for other people. JE: And I think basically the ultimate, where
he arrives on dating- the seduce and destroy thing is ridiculous. Of course, but you wanna know how to be
appealing to women or men? SS: Right. JE: Is just be a good person. SS: Yeah. JE: And you will attract people. SS: Right. JE: And that’s basically what he arrives on. It’s a really interesting show week
after week. SS: Next on the list is the “Entreleadership”
podcast. Say that five times fast. This is hosted by Ken Coleman. Now we- I met Ken Coleman, gosh at
least five years ago. He was just about to start a new show. He had a
book coming out and he’s really just a really dynamic guy. I need to- Ken
we’re gonna let you know that you’re on this list and we’re gonna give you
a call and ask ya to come on the show because I forgot what an engaging
guy Ken really is. He’s a great interviewer and he’s had some
of the- some top names certainly within our industry. Mark Cuban, Seth Godin,
Jim Collins, Simon Sinek- ya know, big, good names that are really
thought leaders out there. JE: Yeah one of my first stories when I got
to Success, maybe my first was- I was interviewing Ken Coleman. He had a new book coming out where he
asked a lot of really impactful people one question. He only gave himself
one question to ask them. And a real test to see if he could come up
with the one perfect question. If you could ask John McCain, like P.O.W. War
Hero, Statesman one question that would be beneficial to yourself or your
reader, what would you ask him? And a fascinating book. All right, next is
Marie Forleo, “The Marie Forleo” podcast. She was named by Oprah as a
thought leader for the next generation. She was one of Inc.’s 500
fastest-growing companies, her company. And the goal for Marie is to
help you become the person that you most wanna be. The show is, along
with the guests, Marie shares strategies for happiness and success and
creativity, motivation, productivity – everything. SS: Yeah and she’s got such an engaging personality
to her. I mean she
really seems just warm and genuine and I think that’s infectious certainly
when she speaks to her guests, and she’s just a likeable person to listen
to and to follow then. JE: Next up, “The Tony Robbins” podcast. Ya know I’ve heard sometimes
when people are voting for like the Pro Football Hall of Fame, if
somebody’s like an obvious Hall-of-Famer, ya know instead of debating it
they’ll just get up on the stage and the presenter will say, Jerry Rice, and
then he’ll walk off the stage. In other cases where it’s more debatable,
they’ll talk for 45 minutes about the person or three hours or whatever. But I think that we can just say, “Tony Robbins.” He is the Rockstar in sort
of our industry. Ya know you’re always gonna get good impactful
and maybe even if it catches you in the right
mood, life-changing stuff from Tony Robbins. SS: All right so next on the list of the top
ten podcasts, “Motley Fool Money.” So Motley Fool is- actually they’ve been around
a while. It’s a financial
site that was started by analysts that really kind of gave some of, at first
some contrary advice, but it was really advice for real people. And so then
this, I guess franchise has developed into a podcast and really it’s, truly
it’s a radio show. I mean it’s weekly across several top-ten
markets; I think L.A., San Francisco, Boston, D.C., but
this show dives into a lot of the top business stories and investing stories
and it’s really engaging, dive into markets from a different take. JE: Well I know that- I mean they do stock
tips right? I’m always a little leery
of taking stock tips from anyone that’s on TV or on the radio, ya know. I
feel like if everybody knows about it- like I don’t know. I just feel like if
you’re broadcasting stock tips that it’s manipulative in a way to the stock
itself. It’s almost like Schroedinger’s cat, ya know-
we start looking at the stock and because we say it’s gonna be bad
then it starts to be bad, or because we say it’s gonna be good, then it
starts to be good. SS: And that can definitely happen. And I think though they’ve been around
so long. It’s not that they got their start on TV and
just all of a sudden started picking stocks out of a hat. I think their big thing was based in
research and then really just trying to make the research usable for
everyday people. And so because they had done this for so long
on their website. I followed them for a while. I haven’t kept up a lot lately, but they
really do give some great advice, and it doesn’t feel schwarmy or
disingenuine at all because they know their stuff. JE: Next up is a former Success cover gal. A lot of people that we’ve covered
on the magazine turn up on this list. But it’s the “Jillian Michael Show.” Jillian Michaels is America’s health and wellness
guru, I would say. The
show is entertaining. It’s inspirational, informative. It just give tools to find
health and happiness in all areas of your life. SS: So rounding out this top ten list is EOFire
with John Lee Dumas. He’s got
quite the cast of guests. JE: Yeah, some of the brightest minds. SS: Tim Ferris, Tony Robbins, Gary Vaynerchuk. JE: Josh Ellis. SS: Josh Ellis, yeah. JE: I was a guest on EOFire. SS: And what did you say? JE: What did I say? I don’t know we talked for like 30 minutes. I said a lot of
things SS: All right, what was your best nugget? JE: Well you don’t remember that. You remember the worst. SS: Okay what was the worst thing you said? JE: And so, he totally caught me off guard
with one question. He’s like what is
one thing that you do that no one else does? And I was just stumped. And ya know it’s dead air so you gotta hurry
up and something, and so I was like I- I always work with a pencil. Which is true. SS: Yeah that’s true. JE: I do, I don’t like pens. SS: As you’ve got a pencil in your hair right
now. JE: In my ear. It’s not in my hair. There’s a big difference. SS: Okay, is that a girl thing, to have it
in your hair? JE: Yeah it’s behind my ear, not in my ear. There’s a big difference in that
too. SS: Yeah. JE: But like and then I tried to fumble for
some explanation of- that way you can make up for your mistakes and as a magazine
editor I always-. SS: See you tried to round that out in some
wisdom. JE: Yeah. It really showed me that he keeps his guests
on their toes. And so
you can get some really good stuff from some people who think a lot faster
than I do. It’s worth listening to. SS: Yeah so certainly podcasts are a huge,
huge genre and so it’s hard to really nail down just ten. When we were compiling the podcasts that we
really liked and felt like our audience would most enjoy, it really was hard
to nail it down to just that number. So I wanted to mention just a few
others that I’m particularly fond of. JE: Yeah, yeah. SS: All right so “The Jocko” podcast. JE: Yeah if you aren’t familiar with Jocko
Willenk, I think you’re gonna hear a lot more about him soon. SS: Have a feeling. JE: Maybe from Success Magazine and Success
Insider and Success Talks. We got Jocko on the cover of our April issue. Former Navy Seal and just
really like motivating guy. This guy like, I mean he’s the typical like
eats lead and spits out bullets kind of dude. Um “Girl Boss Radio” is another
great one with Sophia Amoruso, another former cover gal of ours, and that
show is particularly geared toward women, women entrepreneurs, women
working their way up in their careers. How about some other ones like
“Ten Percent Happier” with Dan Harris is great. Seth Godin’s “Start Up
School.” “The Side Hustle School,” “Smart Passive Income
On-Line,” “This is Your Life” with Michael Hyatt and
oh I love this one too, “The Charged Life” with Brendon Burchard. SS: Yeah, Brendon’s a good friend of Success. JE: Really inspiring guy too with his story
of just where he was in his life after a terrible car wreck, goin’ through the worst
breakup of his life and how he pulled himself out of that sort of misery. SS: Yeah. JE: Which we all go through from time to time. How he did it with- by really
zeroing in on personal development lessons and-. SS: The three things that mattered most to
him. JE: Yeah inspiring guy. So we definitely suggest that you add some
of these to your morning or evening commute or your
videogame time or whatever it is where you have extra brain space, you
can learn a lot from these podcasts. SS: All right, well that wraps things up for
this week, but before we let you go, I wanted to discuss a letter that we got from
one of our loyal subscribers. JE: This one is from Meredith Eddons from
Ft. Smith, Arkansas. She writes,
and loyal is the right word I think, Shelby. She writes, “Success is such an
amazing magazine. I always look forward to it. My kids and I listen to the
interviews on road trips. While on a recent trip two of my sons and
I were listening to the interview with Tony Robbins. He had some valuable things
to say. However, I was incredibly disappointed by
his use of profanity throughout the interview. I’ve taught my kids that vulgar language is
lazy, uneducated and just plain stupid. So the fact that Mr. Robbins chose to
use such inappropriate language was very disappointing. Your magazine
can do better. We all can do better. This audio provided a teachable
moment to my children, just not the one we were expecting. I will continue
to read the magazine and listen to the podcasts, I just never thought I
would have to screen it before sharing it with my kids.” Thank you
Meredith. Ya know obviously we’re aware when Tony Robbins
cusses that not everyone wants to hear that. But we make that call for a reason,
to leave that in, because he makes that call for a reason. It’s not that he’s
just some lout who can’t control himself and he is like the most
well-respected and most-proven inspirational leader in the game. And he
decided long ago that he can get people’s attention that way and if you’re
having a hard time in your life, then you do need to give him your
attention. If that’s what it takes- obviously you listen
to it, Meredith. And I
am sorry that your kids picked up on it, but I do think that not all curse
words, if they’re not meant to be derogatory or to be hurtful, if he’s using
them for effect. Then I think that they serve just that purpose. They are for
effect. And I do thank you for writing in. I will consider things again the
next time we interview Tony. SS: I do have to say though that you don’t
expect to have to sensor or screen content. I mean ya know for the most part, if you read
anything on success.com or listen to anything, it’s gonna
be clean because it’s- that’s not our- our brand isn’t salacious. So you’re right and actually that’s
something that I don’t think a lot of people realize is just how much Tony
cusses. I didn’t know that before I watched the documentary
and I was shocked honestly. And other people that I talk to that like
know of Tony Robbins but like didn’t- like they’d never
been to one of his events or anything, so when they see him talk, he’s
usually on like live television or something and he’s not dropping F-bombs. But he cusses a lot. So I can
see what she’s saying that if you don’t know that that is part of his brand,
his real brand, I guess, ya know in person type of thing. It can kinda catch
ya off guard. So I see what she’s saying. JE: And I will say Meredith that we again
do apologize for exposing your kids to that. I do hope that they learned something and
I hope that Tony got their attention and that they can be inspired
and grow themselves based on the, ya know the actual substance of what
he said. So we do
appreciate your feedback, positive and negative. We don’t shy away from
the negative things. But we always do appreciate the positive,
so share that stuff too. We just love hearing from you. So please always tell us
what you think by emailing us at [email protected] SS: Until next week, I’m Shelby. JE: And I’m Josh, and here is to learning
on the go.

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