ENTREVISTA COM GAVIN 99,9% EM INGLÊS | Passion In Progress

ENTREVISTA COM GAVIN 99,9% EM INGLÊS | Passion In Progress


I think I understand the importance of getting someone to click on my video in the first place A lot of times people -in fact, most time people are not on YouTube to learn They’re there to be entertained And my big goal is to teach people in a way that’s so entertaining and so fun that they don’t necessarily know that they’re learning and it’s the best way to ingest and retain information really On the fifty-ninth episode of “Passion in progress” The YouTuber behind the channel SmallAdvantages, Gavin Roy Gavin has a profound love for Brazil, its language and culture. Currently he has a youtube channel called small advantages and this channel teaches English to those that speak Brazilian Portuguese And he’s been doing a pretty good job at it. At the time of recording this, his channel is about to hit 1.5 million subscribers. Now, if that isn’t enough on your plate Gavin also has a second channel where he teaches English to people that speak Czech Gavin was nice enough to invite me over to hear his story in his home studio in Fort Collins, Colorado Now if you caught that, that means that he is teaching English to people that speak Brazilian Portuguese and Czech from Fort Collins Colorado. The Internet is a crazy thing these days and I love it Even if you don’t want to learn a new language I still think that this episode is so applicable to those that want to learn a new skill Gavin has had so many life experiences in his journey building his SmallAdvantages YouTube channel and teaching others English So I think that there’s some global advice that you can garner from this episode. With that being said, If you guys do get value out of this episode, all I ask is that you share it with a friend You can share it one on one, text message, mail them a letter. Whatever it is, if you found something valuable in this episode Please share it with someone Let’s get into episode 59 of the “Passion in progress” show with SmallAdvantages YouTuber Gavin Roy What is up “Murr station” have your Mercedes here for yet again another “Passion in progress” show, where we talk to inspiring individuals and hopefully through hearing their stories You too are motivated to go out and pursue your passions as well Hopefully I did not say that too fast because this is an interesting episode. We are talking with someone that teaches English to Brazilian Portuguese as well as people that speak Czech, Gavin Roy I love podcasts so I love being on them and I think it’s gonna be an awesome opportunity for my Brazilian audience to practice their English with us. So no worries about the fast intro. I think natural English is important. Give the audience your spiel. Where did you come from? Talk about SmallAdvantages, your YouTube channel. Where are you at right now as a YouTuber? Wow, that is a large question. So, my name is Gavin. I have a background in atmospheric science I live in Colorado here ’cause I was going to school to get my masters and my doctorate in atmospheric science but that was starting in 2011. In 2014 I decided I wanted to go to the World Cup with my wife and with five other American friends and the World Cup that year was in Brazil. So I decided I wanted to start teaching myself Brazilian Portuguese kind of as a hobby outside of what I was doing in the classroom. And I didn’t have a background in languages or anything but I got to the point where I became the de facto leader of our group down in Brazil when we went there for the World Cup. And not a lot of people speak English in Brazil, only about seven to eight percent can hold a conversation fluently, as opposed to like 90 percent in Germany And I found that to be very true when I went down there. I was very thankful that I had learned Portuguese When I came back, I thought: “Man, I kinda wanna continue doing this Portuguese thing. How can I find a way here in the United States?” So I started YouTube channel just with videos of me babbling with my progress but I could see my progress month to month. And then one day someone left a comment, a Brazilian, who said: “Dude, you should make English tips for Brazilians in Portuguese, maybe as a way to practice your Portuguese” And the first video I made then now has over a million views. It was just about how to use the word “it” in English. And there’s all these little things you don’t think about when you are a native speaker of that tongue that cause other people just so many problems Like when we say “it is raining”, what is the “it”? Is it the sky? Is it just a placeholder in the sentence? And so now my channel SmallAdvantages, which I created back then, has grown too close to one and a half million subscribers And it’s through these English tips, yes, but also cultural exchanges. Talking about funny things I’ve found about Brazilian Portuguese as I’ve learned it or interesting cultural differences between Brazil and the US. And I recently started learning Czech and I created another YouTube channel to document my progress. That YouTube channel suddenly went viral in the Czech Republic but my original motivation was to motivate my Brazilian audience that you can learn a language even if you don’t have a lot of time, even if you’re learning another language. Like, the excuses that you don’t have enough time are poor. It’s pretty much you have to decide if the thing is that important to you that you are going to dedicate time to it And I wanted to prove it with that Czech channel as well You said that so concisely, love it Was that concise? I felt like I was talking for ten minutes I love it. There’s so many places to jump off from there. But can you tell the audience the ratio of people in Brazil versus people in Czech Republic that are speaking it and how the subscriber numbers, they’re kind of tell how many people are wanting this kind of content? Yeah, so in Brazil nowadays, they say about 10% of people speak English but there is a huge motivation to learn English. People who speak English earn around 60% more on average per the latest statistics in Brazil. Beyond being able to understand popular culture or travel the world because when you travel in Europe, for example, the “lingua franca” which literally means “French language” is actually English, the language that everyone communicates with each other. And you need English to get the most out of life, I would say. And I think that’s the motivation for a lot of people. In the Czech Republic, it’s closer to 35 to 40 percent of people who speak fluent English. And I should mention too, I don’t think that one language is better than the other, just what you can do with it is different And I try to make that very clear, how much I value Brazilian Portuguese and how much I value Czech But right now my numbers on both channels SmallAdvantages, which is my Brazilian channel, I have maybe 1 in every 140 people in Brazil follow that channel and then 1 out of every 70 people follow the Czech channel Which is called TadyGavin T-A-D-Y Gavin but and when I say 1 in every 70 people, that’s people living in a country, Czechs or Brazilians. And you live in Fort Collins, Colorado Here I am, I’m a nobody here in Colorado, but the moment I get off the plane in Brazil or in Czechia, it’s… I’m recognized everywhere and it’s… It’s cool. I think Will Smith has said this before, I think Jerry Seinfeld said this before like it’s cool being famous. It’s fun. And I love meeting my students. But I also enjoy Being a normal guy. I say it on my SmallAdvantages channel a lot but I don’t consider myself a celebrity and I love leading like a normal life here. Going to the grocery store, not being recognized here in the United States. So in my opinion, it’s the best of both worlds. The other cool thing is what you’re known for. It’s for teaching people how to speak English. You’re, you’re giving educational content and helping the world advance, you know and talking to each other and communicating. Can you talk about your process and… Where were you at in the beginning? And where you at now? Like how does making a video look to you? When I graduated with a doctorate in atmospheric science and then the next day told my family my friends that I’m hanging up my science career and becoming a YouTuber, there was a lot of questions like “why?”. A lot of my friends thinking “man, you’re kind of wasting 10 years of your life that you spent doing something”. But I gained a lot out of my experience in higher education and one of the biggest things that I’ve carried over into making YouTube videos and teaching is being able to tell a full story. To take someone who doesn’t understand a concept and to bring them through the steps that it will take them to the point where they’re okay, they can wrap their mind around it. It’s not enough just to tell someone, you have to prove it you have to show it to them. And another thing that my science career helped me with too is anticipating what questions there will be from the audience at the end of your presentation that you give at a conference “What are the hands that are gonna raise?” and “what are they gonna ask?” And I try to anticipate those exact questions before I make every video because people are gonna ask questions in the comments and you can’t always respond to people’s… In fact, with 1.5 million subscribers, you can rarely respond to people’s questions about certain things. So I want to be able to answer them right in the beginning. So making videos for me is anticipation of those questions and it’s a lot of script writing, it’s a lot of research before I describe a grammar tip or a pronunciation tip. The part that I like the least is the editing and all of the… Thumbnail creation takes often up to an hour for me. It’s important but my favorite part is that very initial embryonic stage where you’re trying to figure out how you can get that spark to go off in your viewer. Yeah, I love that and especially when coming up with the concepts being youtuber myself… Mine’s more video editing techniques and things of that nature, but trying to formulate like will this vibrate with the audience that I’m trying to reach and the trial-and-error there Can you talk about, in the beginning… And I think it’s worth it to say when you did pursue you to YouTube full time, where were you at, subscriber-wise?’cause I don’t want to give false notions to people that just like “Well, let’s just start a YouTube channel”, ’cause you already had some success there, correct? I did, I was making a little less than my graduate student stipend at the time and when my wife gave me the Full go-ahead like “Yeah, do it. Follow your dream”, I… It was with the assurance that I gave her that if I couldn’t bring my YouTube revenue up to where my graduate school stipend was that I would literally deliver pizzas or I don’t… Do what it takes to still do what I’m loving with the language education and YouTubing connecting with cultures on the globe. And luckily it happened pretty quick that I was able to bring my income up to that and then beyond. But at the time I had her on three hundred thousand subscribers when I took the leap. And an interesting thing that… When you asked about what I’ve changed, what’s different about now than in the beginning, I think I understand the importance of getting someone to click on my video in the first place. A lot of times people… In fact, most time, people are not on YouTube to learn. They’re there to be entertained and my big goal is to teach people in a way that’s so entertaining and so fun that they don’t necessarily know that they’re learning and… It’s the best way to ingest and retain information, really. So if you look at a lot of my older videos, they’re poorly edited in the sense that there are long pauses, there are times when I restart a line of thought and I don’t cut that out. And then the titles are just like “20 very interesting phrasal verbs” or “What the word ‘it’ means in English” and now I know to try to give them more “títulos chamativos”, like attention grabbing titles. One specific example I can think of is in a video recently where I taught ways to say “no”. So “no, thank you” or “not this time” or “maybe later”. And I could have titled that video “Different ways to say no in English” and I think I would have done that three years ago when I was just a budding YouTuber But that video became “Never shake your finger at an American”, was the title of that. And it has a very interesting thumbnail of like me shaking my finger and like a red X sign through it. And that has to do with… In Brazil, it’s a cultural norm when in a restaurant if the waiter comes up to you and asks “Do you want ketchup?” You don’t respond to them, you just… You don’t even look at them You can just shake your finger no, and that’s “okay, no problem” for the waiter Whereas if you did that here in the United States, I’d be like, “whoa, what are you? What are you doing like shaking your… That’s a Dikembe Mutombo, like, deal right there”. So it’s trying to pull out these very attention grabbing things and understanding these cultural differences between Brazil in the US or the Czech Republic and the US. And that might cause problems for a Brazilian tourist in the US if they were to literally translate their expressions, their gesticulations into the US too So a lot of things that need to be considered when you’re interacting in a different language. And why do you think you had so much momentum in the beginning, when you were first creating the videos themselves? YouTube was pretty new in Brazil at that point. I started my channel in January of 2015 and I also think that there weren’t as many people as interested in learning Portuguese as there are now or maybe people are just coming out of the Woodworks now. I see a lot of Americans starting to learn Brazilian Portuguese, which is really awesome. I think it’s a fantastic language. I was the only one doing what I was doing at the time and it was a purely, I don’t want to say selfish but it was it was a hobby purely for me I wasn’t trying to conquer an audience or make a living out of it I really was and still am passionate about it. And I think that struck a chord with Brazilians My wife always says too – she’s traveled to Brazil with me four or five times now She always says that Brazilians are very concerned about what other people think about Brazil. They’re very interested in knowing other people’s opinions of them and I think there’s so many good things to share about Brazil and to take part in that… That gringos like ourselves, like, don’t really know And my videos were a way to show what an outsider thinks of their culture, thinks of their language, thinks of these things that are so day-to-day, so quotidian for them that for us are like “wow, you have cheese in your bread and you make it out of yucca, and you guys eat it like every day for breakfast? That’s the most awesome thing I’ve ever seen”. Things that they wouldn’t think about. So it was a mix of that. That actually brings up the… Can you explain what you did with the equivalent of what “The Tonight Show” is here and what was the PB&J? Like ’cause I couldn’t understand what you were saying. Like, why did… Why were you bringing peanut, butter and jelly there? So I appeared on “The Noite” which is the largest late-night talk show it’s like the Jimmy Fallon I suppose of Brazil and it was such an amazing but nerve-wracking experience. Again, like I’m a nobody I’m a normal guy here in Colorado To go to Brazil and all of a sudden be behind the curtains and they open and there’s an audience and you’re on late-night TV with their popular talk show hosts is… It was an incredible, nerve-wracking experience. I… In a segment on that talk show I brought peanut butter and jelly from the United States. You can’t really buy peanut butter in Brazil. Ah, okay that’s why. Yeah, when you do find it, it’s more for protein, for people who work out a lot. But it’s not a snack food for kids. So in the same way this cheese bread, this “pão de queijo” is so amazing for Americans that this is such a delicious food that we don’t have here in the United States PB and J’s are kind of like that for Brazilians who have never seen this flavor combination of salty peanut butter and fruit jelly sandwich between bread. Like, what are you doing? But every kid in the US lives on those practically growing up. That’s cool. I assumed it was something like that judging from the reactions that the host and you were giving but I was like, oh man that’s kind of interesting that peanut butter and jelly down there is not something down there Exactly. Talk about your process in learning a language because you recently released a video on your Czech channel that I could understand where you, you delved into your process because you’ve recently Quote-unquote, since you were studying Czech or you’re still actively doing that talk about your process on how You set to learn a language. It’s a fantastic question because I think It’s easy to just say yeah I was a grad student and then I learned Brazilian Portuguese and went down to the World Cup and it seems so Simple and just like a fact that it’s like that but no there is so much Not work because work has a poor connotation but I would say dedication that goes into it and I think the biggest tip that I would give to someone who’s wanting to learn a foreign language is to literally just Study 30 40 minutes a day. It doesn’t matter what you do It could be listening to a radio station in I’ll use Portuguese as well. There’s no Brazilian radio station or Studying out of a textbook it’s boring. But sometimes you need to do it. Maybe you spend your 30 minutes a day studying duolingo or flashcards on an app on your phone If you have an extremely busy day, wake up 30 minutes earlier and do it. I think this persistence is extremely important and You’re gonna know what’s best for you a lot of times in your routine and what works for you and how you get vocab words To stick in your head things like that, but just make sure you’re putting in the time Beyond that I would say starting to converse as early as possible is good So looking for native speakers or perhaps tutors professors those first conversations are gonna be painful I’m not saying you’re gonna be fluent by any means but the goal for most people when they’re learning a language is to be able to speak in that language So you should be starting to try to speak in that language as early as possible You shouldn’t say oh, I’m not good enough yet. Oh, I I don’t know enough words I am it takes me too long to find words the way you get around That is by just having embarrassing moment after embarrassing moment in these conversations online which we’re able to do now in the Internet age and Try to overcome Your your difficulties and it gets easier. What’s an app that people can use to do that? So there are several I use Italki I’m sponsored by Italki and I love absolutely love their product for finding native speakers Who are kind of like their professors, but they’re you know kind of like your friend like you you can do whatever you want during your your talks with them, but you can also find a just language exchange partners on that website on Italki. Cambly is another one I know of And I used Conversation Exchange in the very beginning to find a conversation partner, too And then can you talk about your struggles in maybe just with Portuguese? How was it when those first conversations that you were having with another native speaker? because I think what people can relate to that are just starting off is like a 50 second pause where you’re trying to think of a word and then You can’t think of it and you’re still like no, don’t tell me I’m gonna think of it Describe how that process was in the beginning it helped in the beginning that I had a conversation Partner who is from Brazil who was learning English So we would speak 30 minutes in English and 30 minutes in Portuguese. And we, we got each other like we let the other person Think of that word to try to search for it as long as possible We also got really good at telling the other person how to say. Oh man. I’m racking my brain I can’t think of this word but in the other Language because if you’re in a real situation for me going down in Brazil for the first time for the World Cup in 2014 I was in situations where I couldn’t Think of this word forever with the hotel reception, but I knew how to say hi “esqueci da palavra”. I forget the word and then move on and try to describe it in a different way. So Find someone who you connect with who understands you and most people on Italki for example get you they understand that that’s part of the process, but then find ways to circumvent this forgetting a word and and Make it a fun or maybe funny situation. Most people enjoy that other people are trying to learn their language Brazilians especially are very helpful in real life 99.9% of them will let you search for the word will try to help you find that word and that’s a beautiful thing to see and something I think we forget as native English speakers because everyone in the world That’s a hyperbole but a lot of people, billions of people are learning English It’s not rare for us to hear English in a foreign accent But it’s rare for a Brazilian to hear Portuguese spoken with an accent because so few people are going to Portuguese so few people are going to Czech. It’s I think they’re one of the reasons that my Czech channel where I Talk a lot more about cultural differences than the English language. I think the reason that that went viral, became very popular was it’s so bizarre to see someone who’s non-native speaking Czech Everyone all the trout are swimming in the other direction. You’re the only one going Upstream and so you’re a novelty. With that in mind, can you talk about your personality and Does it change from language to language? Because I think from my personal experience Trying to learn Spanish, which I’m not fluent in One of the hardest things is whenever I go visit my relatives that are native speakers in Spanish. It’s Trying to be the same person of who I am but not being able to communicate it in a way So do you find yourself at least in the beginning being somebody who you’re not or trying to Like make a joke, but then that joke doesn’t make any sense because it’s different in that language Yes, that’s a fantastic question Javier. So you mean kind of what you’ve described the Reason you can’t be yourself in a foreign language is because your reaction time just isn’t isn’t the same You can’t find the words quick enough a lot of times. I Would consider my humor very sarcastic and dry in English when I’m speaking my native language inserting a witty comment or like a biting remark here out of jest, you know, I Can’t do that in Portuguese a lot of times. I’ve gotten better But especially in the beginning I had to be okay with being a little more self-deprecating in a way like laughing at my mistakes I’m a smiley happy gringo. And so yes, I would say that when I especially when I’m in Brazil my personality changes I’m a lot more humble maybe and I’m willing to Not embarrass myself but accept accept that I’m not going to be perfect, I guess and accept that some of my Humor that I or jokes that I would otherwise make might fall flat And so some things are left unsaid and some aspects of your personality are left unrevealed when you can’t describe yourself more perfectly in Czech I am a little bit away from being fluent still So my personality is even more kind of not cut and dry But like I guess when I’m creating a script or something on YouTube, I’m going not for perfection But for comprehension so it’s very straightforward I think very I’m trying to be clear and concise and less of those little quippy things that I would say if I were speaking in English too. One of the things For those that haven’t seen your videos, which I’m assuming most of the people watching This video have seen your videos, but from somebody that just came across your content. I Think you do an amazing job at just your mannerisms just the way that you approach the camera and talk to the camera It’s very I want to save like jubilant and energetic just like what you’re saying The energy is there and not only that but the willingness to learn from my end is I don’t speak Brazilian Portuguese But man, I want to learn it now Like cuz just in the way that you’re the way that you act on camera presents itself in a way that manifests learning Which I think is really cool if there is anybody that’s looking to teach something and even if it’s not language but if they’re looking to educate people on a platform like YouTube what advice would you give? And I want to give it with this stipulation because I interviewed another teacher and There’s this interesting Concept that I thought about where if you’re in a classroom Right, you have to go to that classroom and you have to learn from that professor when you’re on YouTube If you don’t like what you’re hearing from whoever you’re hearing it from there’s this whole sidebar of Suggested material where they can click off and go find somebody else to watch their content. So what kind of things have you learned or garnered over time where you’re like, I Like teaching this way and it works this way. I am hyper aware of the Compulsion to click on whatever video is on the side. I have a Maybe this is just a product of the modern age but I have a shorter attention span, I would say. And Definitely thinking about what a viewer would do in certain aspects like would a viewer want to click away here How can I get them to stay here and still try to learn with me? This is first of all I would tell someone wanting to start out about that in this vein that it is a learned skill as I’m sure that you are aware too I’m in the beginning stages. But yes, yeah. My first videos, I’m kind of just sitting up in a chair like Against a table like “Hi. Welcome to my tip video” You know and I would click away from me. I would click away from my beginning videos, too. Yes, exactly so through the process of editing and seeing What I look like how I sound I’ve kind of adapted my style to try to be a little more “acolhedor” to like Welcoming to my to my audience like leaning in a little bit and almost as if we’re having an actual conversation It’s strange because I’m looking at your cameras here like at the end of the day it’s just a piece of technology on a stick but really trying to Imagine my audience behind there and trying to start this non-existent conversation essentially with with vigor and enthusiasm one thing too that is helpful that YouTube provides to its creators is the audience retention charts and for those who haven’t seen those they’re like an XY chart with X being time and Y being the percentage of your audience who’s still watching that video so you can see at the beginning of the video 100% of people are watching and by the end of the video, maybe only 40 percent are watching and Along that graph you can see hup There is a sudden drop and you can go right to that point in the video and see what did I do that was boring? And usually it’s something very boring like a long pause or you said something confusing that made people click ahead or or lose interest or you went off on a tangent and so the final piece of advice that I would give to people looking to start a YouTube channel is just Start talking about what you want to talk about the the old wisdom at least I remember my teacher in high school saying this is when you have a presentation introduce it have your body and then conclude and say Tell them what you’ll tell them. Tell them Tell them what you told them But that doesn’t that’s out the window on YouTube. On YouTube if I want to learn how to I wrote about this in my book which is coming out in November but if I want to learn how to replace a car battery, for example I had to do this and I clicked on a YouTube video and there was a horrible video of a guy standing in the door of his garage for 10 minutes and describing where he got the car and how the battery ended up becoming dead No, I don’t want to hear that I’m at that video to hear how to change a car battery starting at second number 1 and so when I have my Youtube tip videos. I just did one about the placement of “also”, “too” and “as well” in sentences in English I try to start that out at second one. I don’t introduce it I just give an example and so just be to the point and engaging It’s interesting because if you’re if you’re starting with an example at the very beginning I may argue that you are presenting the old school format of tell them what you’re going to do then do it and then recap it but it’s it’s I think it’s Changed over the years especially for the shortening attention spans But the concept is still there. It is and it may be in a way that that introduction of showing them an example is them not Realizing they’re getting an introduction So it’s going back to the trying to get your audience to have fun and enjoy your content and almost not realize that they’re learning. And so maybe they don’t realize that it’s an introduction It’s not an old-fashioned introduction like “today in this video we will be talking about ‘also’, ‘too’ and ‘as well'”, it’s just you know you dive right in and maybe that yeah that example like you said is your introduction. And I think an overall theme and you said this in either one of your videos or Something that you wrote but there’s a quote that you use where it’s like try… If you’re not making like 200 mistakes a day then you’re not, you know living. Or do you remember what the quote is? I do and it’s actually a quote from a famous polyglot from Ireland named Benny Lewis who has inspired me a lot in my own quest to learn different languages, but he said that to learn a language, you need to be making 200 mistakes a day That’s why I encourage my users to have as many conversations as possible. Find as many ways to actively practice their language Because when you make that mistake the chances are there’s… I should just say there’s a lower chance that you will make that same mistake in the future if you realize that it was a mistake And where are you gonna realize it was a mistake? It’s by speaking with natives or having people review your writing, things like that So you’ve learned two languages, plus English obviously. Had your success on YouTube and you just wrote a book What is something that was a super failure or that you really learned from? Like what was like one of the hardest moments throughout this journey that you’ve had so far since graduating? Nothing has been hard for me in the sense that oh my gosh I don’t know if I can keep doing this as my job. There’s been no, you know, monetary issues. There’s been no I don’t know, catastrophes of some sort. The hardest part for me has been ignoring the crazy people on YouTube or even just the people who don’t necessarily like my content Which is totally fine like to each their own we say, right? Back in the early days of my youtube channel I would post a video and I would get a thousand likes and Three dislikes and I’d be kept up at night. Like what did I do to deserve those three dislikes? You know What did we do in this podcast that are gonna get dislikes that I know will be there? If somebody hits that dislike button… Yeah, exactly So for me it’s been focusing on the positives and how many people are benefiting from my content and ignoring that random comment that says like your wife is a whore or something. Like YouTube comments sections are often horrible people can anonymously say whatever they want and I feel like I have a much better mindset now in the last year or two especially then I did back then but it took some time for me to understand that Personal anecdote with that if your audience wants to know My first video that like went a little bit viral or that just took off and the algorithm Was after a podcast one of these guys that I’m friends with had a really expensive movie camera, and I was like, oh Let’s just talk about your movie camera really quick. So we did the video, but we were done with the podcast So I put the microphones away and everything and I just like hung a microphone above us and did the whole interview It’s like a thirty minute interview. Now it’s my most viewed video. The problem is the audio is not that good and I went to school for audio engineering and there there’s not that many dislikes on that video compared to how many likes there are and it’s I think it’s got like 70,000 views right now, but the problem is each comment is like “man this sounds horrible” or “you should work on your sound” and I’m like “I know what the problem is” and I can for sure agree that that’s the stuff that keeps you up at night There could be… You could have a billion likes and a billion positive comments on, and especially with like the podcast if you would like to rate this podcast on iTunes, that’d be awesome, too but You could have so many awesome, raving reviews, you’re impacting people’s lives in a positive way, but that one comment man. It can get to you, it can definitely get to you. It can and I don’t know about you but I consider myself a perfectionist. Oh, yeah for sure, for sure And so it’s exactly that when you post a YouTube video after it hits a hundred thousand views There’s nothing you can change before a hundred thousand You have the chance to go clip little bits out if you like I’ve made actually mistakes in teaching my own native language, which it happens from time to time, you know, but I am getting better at the perfectionism aspect of that too, but that’s the joy of sitting down for three hours before a video and writing a script is to get try to use my perfectionist brain to like avoid any Possible error or mistake in the video that I’m about to shoot. So that part is very important to me and I’m getting better and better at that too. One thing. I want to drive across here too is Not necessarily with the comments and whatever but creation globally just anything that you want to do in life. How has persistence kind of manifested itself in what you’re doing on a day to day? Because I think one of the hardest things to do creating content and pursuing YouTube full-time is As we were talking before the podcast you’re your own boss. You have to set your own limitations on what you do What does a typical day look like for you and how do you know that I can put the camera away I can put the computer away I can stop creating right now and actually go out and have life experiences I need to stop having life experiences and go create again. Where where do you find that fine line now? Wow, you are just chock full of great questions It’s funny that you ask that because between my wife and I 2019 Our like slogan for 2019 is “a return to simplicity” because I think in the past being your own boss It’s definitely very easy Like you said to just like I used to think if I’m not posting three videos a week then I’m doing something wrong. I kind of have that mentality right now. Yes and YouTube their, their executives, their, their people who help with their creators I’ve had meetings with them and they say the same thing if you’re Producing videos once a week go to multiple times a week if you’re going every day Then you should do multiple times a day YouTube at the end of the day is gonna make more money if the creator is posting more videos and for a while I didn’t realize that in a way I’m like a pawn of YouTube If I’m just telling myself I need to post I need to post a need to post I want to post I want to get educational content. I want to share culture with Brazilians and 2019 especially I’ve realized that it’s important to not do too much but not do too little and everyone’s got to find that that balance for themselves for sure what that means for me right now is At least one video per week on small advantages It’s an arbitrary number but you know, it’s it’s what’s worked for me right now, especially finishing my book as well, but it’s gosh it’s the perpetual question for creators and people whose full-time job, like myself, is YouTube Can you give a specific example like for me when I go to bed I no longer have my phone in the room And what was consuming me was like I would go to bed, but then I would I would quote-unquote go to bed I would be like have this cell phone while I’m sitting in bed and not just be like, oh what’s on Twitter? What’s on Instagram? Like, like all that stuff it wasn’t productive now I wake up and I get up so much faster and I start my day so much faster because I just don’t have my phone by me That’s one of the things from my personal perspective What’s helped me to set limitations on using my cell phone or just technology to go create and then also like when the family is there I like I just try and Spend time with the family and there’s no creating at that time And then when they go to bed, then I might go back up and create Is there any specific examples that you might give for people to get things, to finish things, to finish the projects that they want? I love that you asked for a specific example because it’s easy to talk in abstractions and, you know, I think I can fall into that sometimes. So ok, so specifically talking about technology limitations I mean I’ve never been much of a tech guy to begin with which is the huge irony of me being a youtuber right now I think that’s a super beneficial to how you’ve been so successful. It is, it is, I think so. I mean, when I started recording I was only using a GoPro and I still had a dumb phone, I still had a flip phone back in 2015. I now have a smart phone but I don’t have email on my smart phone. Oh That’s another reason why you’re so good Yes, yeah, I try to, I try to be focused It’s important to be bored and I’ll get back to that in a second for the creative process But I’m talking about with my phone. Yeah, I don’t bring my phone in the bedroom I pretty much only use my laptop down here in my basement studio. Meaning I’m only working on tips I’m only responding to email here at work Which is hugely beneficial when I’m working in my own home, and typically I’ll reserve two and a half days For me to do recording, video review, posting and all that, during the week. The other days I especially focus on more language learning and returning to I said about being bored, my best ideas come from random runs or sitting in the hammock just like Thinking about nothing. I don’t bring my phone over to the hammock. I don’t bring a book I just kind of like sit there sometimes in fact, usually I fall asleep But I get a lot of good ideas where I’m thinking “that’s an interesting thing that my wife said the other day” or “isn’t it weird that the word guide is spelled G-U-I-D-E” and this tip again about different ways to say “also”, “too”, “as well” came out of one of these Bored moments where I’m thinking “wow, that’s kind of just one word in Portuguese, but we use three in English” So talking about successful in terms of creation It’s been leaving technology behind or having a dedicated space for that I love that and I it’s very rare to meet somebody that doesn’t have email on their phone. Back at my old job There’s this new thing called Slack if you’re familiar with it and what it’s a messaging app think of it as AIM or AOL Instant Messenger but for companies and I just wouldn’t put Slack on my phone and you would get an email notification if somebody messaged you In today’s day and age if you’re always accessible, you don’t have time for yourself I think and it’s definitely finding that balance and I think you at that point definitely have that. There’s other stuff in particular that I noticed and, it’s your journal. Can you talk about that? Like, because you actually document like “oh I did this today”, I think. And then And the process of what you’re doing. Can you talk a little bit about that? So what you’re referring to is the journal that I kept when I was first starting to learn Czech and I was very aware of how much time was going to each resource. It was, you know, 10 minutes a day for flashcards, 15 minutes a day for this Czech YouTube channel and 20 minutes a day for podcast I would write that. That’d be one log entry and then the next day right my log entry I kept that journal because I wanted to understand where my time was going and what the results were when I was learning a language from scratch It’s something I didn’t do at the beginning of Brazilian Portuguese nor Spanish. And so it was really cool to do that That tactic though, which I started in 2017, has recently really helped me be intentional with my time. There’s a big drive for intentionality with technology. Meaning that, I’ll give you a concrete example since that’s important to demonstrate my point. I don’t follow anyone on Instagram or, I should say, I follow one person on Instagram. It’s the city of Fort Collins where I live. I’m kind of like a plug for the place I live and love and I like their photos, but I know myself I know the human psyche and I know I would find myself just scrolling Limitlessly and where does the time go? Is this really how I want to have spent an hour of my day? There’s a quote about intentionality of your days that I absolutely love It’s by annie Dillard and she said “how you spend your days is of course how you spend your lives” So if you’re not being intentional with your phone usage now Like what… How is that going to change in the future? These companies’ drives, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, is to get you to stay on their app So when we’re talking about phones and apps specifically, this focus of intentionality just like I was documenting the amount of time I spent studying flashcards with Czech, it’s nice that iPhones for example have the amount of time that you spend on each app and you can look at that now and So just being very aware of what I don’t want myself to get involved in and what I do like I love reading for example, and instead of I sometimes fight the impulse to pick up my phone and I just have books readily accessible that that I’m in the process of reading and Knowing that that’s a way to get me to do something that is gonna be more rewarding for me ultimately and that I enjoy more And I don’t hate myself afterwards for having wasted like an hour on Instagram. Mm-hmm there’s an amazing quote and I think it’s… I put together a compilation of some of my favorite quotes on a podcast I think it’ll be released by the time this one’s out but it begins with another guest that I had Nick Hagelin and he said something along the lines of The decisions you make from day to day compound over time and it’s like if you want to learn piano Just like you said “having books readily available”, for him, he’s a musician So he wanted to learn piano. He didn’t really know it and he… One of his producer friends was really good at piano. And he was like, how did you get so good? He’s like, well, I put the piano in between in my living room and the kitchen. So whenever I’m walking, I just go and play it and he’s like oh So if you want to learn something, doing it day in and day out Or not day in and day out but just like you’re saying 40 to 30 minutes a day. It’s that decision compounded over time that’s going to lead to your mediocrity or your success and I love how it’s success or mediocrity or and not success or failure because Because it’s like you can be complacent and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that like if you want to If that’s what you want to do, that’s awesome But I think if you are striving to be super successful at something in an efficient manner It’s doing it day in and day out with persistence Just like what you’re saying and setting yourself up for success Yeah, I mean I love that I had two things recently in 2019 – are having a guitar readily available and I’ve randomly, this is an odd thing that I don’t think my audience knows yet, but I recently got really good at the Rubik’s Cube and it was it was just that I have two of them and Like ones in the kitchen and ones in the living room and like, from time to time I’ll be passing through like oh maybe I’ll spend like a couple minutes like fiddling with this thing. And yeah, that’s exactly it I love that the compounding of your daily decisions. I You can go too far I mean you can you can get at the end of a day and be like man I didn’t spend half an hour on guitar today. I didn’t spend 20 minutes on English. I like There’s this anxiety about it too. So there’s… Like everything. It’s so easy to say like it’s a balance, but it’s a balance, you know. You can be neurotic about it or you can Like for me a helpful thing is just remembering my original joy, my original joy of learning Portuguese. Like, I just love saying that I’m fluent in Portuguese I love Brazilian culture and that gets me through like the tedium of having to study a grammar tip sometimes or like guitar You know if I’m not enjoying it some days and I’ll just set it down for like a week at a time and then like I’m newly refreshed when I return to it, so don’t Be anxious. Don’t be a taskmaster about your time. I wouldn’t actually necessarily recommend keeping an exact log of how many minutes you’re spending a day for each thing, but Generally, if that’s what helps you be more intentional with your time. Your minutes are precious, you know, then that’s what you should do I’ll have that. Two questions I ask everybody at the end of each podcast. First one is why do you do what you do? I do what I do because we need to… It’s gonna sound really petty but at the end of the day Like everyone needs money to buy food and to have a roof over their heads So this is a job at the end of the day but with the glorious exception that it is the… I can’t see myself doing anything else that I Enjoy as much that also earns me money. I love connecting with people I love the logic and challenge of breaking It’s almost like you can consider a foreign language a code and like cracking it cracking it open and I feel Like privileged to be the one who discovers the way to express myself in this way and then communicate that to my audience. So I would say that that is… That is kind of like the balance of what I’m doing right now Can you say the quote about the… Or what you wrote about the three intersections or it’s an intersection of three things? so there is a quote that I love too that you… “Happiness in your job comes from being good at what you do, enjoying what you do, and doing something that the world needs” So if you can find the intersection of these three things. And as a graduate student I think I was good at what I did. I think that the world needs good meteorologists and climatologists but I didn’t enjoy it. YouTube for me is a perfect, perfect conglomeration of all. I’m definitely I’m a normal guy, but I’m good at learning languages because I’ve done it now for five straight years And anyone could do what I did. I’m not a genius or anything. So I’m good at it I freaking love it You know and connecting with my audience and again being famous in Brazil is super cool. Meeting students who have benefited from my lessons, super awesome. And Brazil needs it right now for, for better for worse English is the language that the world has chosen to speak and so I feel privileged to be able to share my maternal language with with the world and things that I came across as a boy I can get to now talk about why We pronounce this this way or what this saying actually means and it’s a it really is a joy And I’m glad to be at that triple intersection Awesome. And then, last question I ask everybody, in this circumstance I think we’ve kind of honed in on some of the things that have made you successful and happy where you’re at today but from you graduating and doing your PhD work to where you’re at right now, if you wanted to give advice to how you got to where you’re at right now, what would be one piece of advice? Hmm like Nike slogan, maybe Mm-hmm. A lot of people say that yeah. You know, I think… So since I’ve become a more or less famous youtuber. I have like one and a half million subscribers I’ve had probably 20 people random acquaintances or friends come up to me and say hey I have a really good idea for a youtube channel What do you think about this and usually their idea is pretty darn awesome But they never do it. They… It gets stuck in some phase or maybe they just lose interest and they don’t do it Or maybe they do it once but then they never follow up on it So I think that applies to language learning too like oh I’ve always wanted to learn French like just start and then just keep being persistent it’s not any like brain hack or crazy methodology. It’s just doing it and then maybe a new Nike slogan like “just keep doing it” Nobody said that, that’s perfect man. I love that, that’s awesome. What a great ending. If people want to see you, where can they find your channels? So my Brazilian Portuguese channel is again SmallAdvantages and my Czech one is TadyGavin, T-A-D-Y Gavin but honestly, you could just Google Gavin Portuguese or Gavin Czech and you will find me and Yeah, I’m on YouTube and Instagram and Javier I would like to know where we can find you and your awesome podcasts and videos since this video is going to appear on SmallAdvantages I am @javiermercedes J-A-V-I-E-R Mercedes just like the car on YouTube and then if you do enjoy this, but you don’t have the time to watch the interviews, there is the podcast. So this is a podcast. It’s on iTunes. If you want to hear a lot of conversations like the one that we just had with inspiring individuals and just to hear their story. And for me, it’s kind of selfish because I just get motivated like learning from different people’s perspectives on how they’ve become successful at where they’re at and I just to get like a a Smorgasbord of all of that in my brain and just like get reinvigorated every conversation that I have. So That’s me, if you want to listen to those conversations as well, it’s “Passion in Progress” on iTunes or any of the podcast apps that you use. So “Passion in progress”, Javier Mercedes. With that, if you would like to rate this on iTunes, you could and until next episode. Thank you so much for your time Gavin and live a life of abundance and I’ll see you guys on the next one

100 thoughts on “ENTREVISTA COM GAVIN 99,9% EM INGLÊS | Passion In Progress

  1. Hi Gavin, I´ve got some local south, southeast and midwest brazilians expressions for you: 1 -"Bruto nas corda!" = Corajoso. 2 – "Tem que massá barro" = Tem que sofrer para aprender. 3 – "pó tirá o zóio!" = Está falando besteira! . 4 – "Você é meu peixe" = Você é meu protegido. 5 – "Ô trem bom" = Que coisa boa. 6 – "Dia!!!" = Bom dia. 7 – "Tarde"""! = Boa tarde. 8 – "Noite!!!!!" = Boa noite. 9 – " Demais da conta" = Muito (pode ser bom ou ruim). "Piá" = menino . "Guria"= menina

  2. Wtf não sou fluente e entendi 70% da conversa, sendo que em música e filmes não chega perto dos 20%. Me motivou isso

  3. Gavi, é errado você não ser fluente, nem intermediario ou não sei de básico, assistir esse video. tipo eu assistir ele todo pra me familializar com o idioma. Não entendi tudo da entrevista, mas eu gostei bastante🤩

  4. Engraçado; vc está tão fluente em português que pensa na palavra, primeiramente em português, porque traduz melhor o que vc quer dizer e depois fica pensando qual a palavra em inglês que melhor a traduza. Normalmente fazemos o contrário, pq temos mais intimidade com a língua materna.

  5. Amazing interview Gavin! I fully understand and I hope to speak as you do someday.
    Have you ever searched about ikigai? It's a Japanese concept and you described it in one of your last comments.

    Thanks!!!

  6. I would like to congratulate and thank you for this passion, if 60% of Brazilian people have it we'll have a bigger self esteem. And thanks to Javier Mercedes for great questions.

  7. thats fantastic question , agora nao esqueço mais essa resposta , gavin you something else continue fazendo videos

  8. Gavin we can see other side about you in this interview ! Amazing see how you think about each point! I am more admirated about you after that video

  9. Ahhh…. tinha esquecido que o Gavin fala inglês XDDDDD, o português dele é tão bom que eu até esqueci que essa não é a língua nativa dele !

  10. EI GAVIN, Eu deixo você falar português, é muito fofo. Até porque não entendo nada de inglês.

  11. Amei esse vídeo,você fala de uma maneira que da para entender o inglês falado direitinho.Eu baixei esse vídeo para eu treinar todos os dias😂

  12. Eu acho que eu sou um dos homens entre os aprendrizes do Inglês que mais assistiu filmes em Inglês no mundo

  13. you started learning portuguese in 2014? wow…that´s very fast for a such perfect portuguese…..I´ve been studying english for so many years and I think I haven´t reached that kind of level yet….

  14. This video is very good Gavin. I understand you fluently and probably is important for people learn english and you is the great teach and your lesson as amazing for me. Thank you so much for all Gavin.

  15. Gavin pode ter sido um erro do youtube talvez, mas eu também contribuí com as legendas em português(Br), você poderia dar uma olhadinha por aí por favor, caso não consiga resolver eu entenderei :3

  16. Thank U so much for this kind of video, your tips it’s was great, I loved your ideias and your lifetime now it’s a kind of inspiration for me !

  17. Love listening to the way you guys speak. It´s fast and clear at the same time. Natural English.

  18. Eu percebo que eu to bem no inglês quando eu entendo 99,9% do vídeo com ele na velocidade 1,5x sem problemas.

  19. KKKKKKKKKK o Gavin está pensando em português tanto que ele puxa as palavras primeiro em português depois pensa em como seria inglês "acolhedor"

  20. Sincero e humildemente inspirador, parabéns Gavin por todo o seu trabalho e obrigada por criar BigAdvantages nas nossas vidas😊👏🏻🌻

  21. Gavin! Que entrevista maravilhosa!!!! Fiquei emocionada!!!! Me deu vontade de conhecer essa pessoa que falava português com vc, seu parceiro de idioma! Vc é realmente uma celebridade no Brasil. Qdo vejo um americano falando espanhol já é fantástico. Falando português: é incrível!!! Moro no México e vejo que aqui as crianças têm uma imersão no inglês nas escolas. E aprendem mesmo. No Brasil não é assim. Talvez por isso nosso inglês é super básico. Obrigada mesmo pela sua paixão em ajudar a quebrar essa barreira! Muito sucesso sempre!!!! Com sua fluência no português podemos te conhecer na íntegra e te amamos por isso. Um abraço.

  22. Com esse vídeo me senti estimulada e encorajada a aprender inglês e ter a certeza que é ppossível, basta querer!

  23. ATENÇÃO BRASILEIROS :::: ATTENTION BRAZILIANS

    fala galera, tem alguem aqui quem esta querendo falar com um Americano? Eu moro em Colorado (Mesmo que Gavin!) e estou procurando um Brasileiro para fazer chat de vídeo. Eu posso te ajudar com o seu ingles, e voce pode me ajudar com o meu portugues!

  24. We brazilians are Lucky to have Gavin as our English teacher, his passion and dedication for what he does make me look up to him more and more!

  25. ur being too otmist, 7.5% speaks fluently english, people in brazil first need to learn the portuguese in a good level , Dude !!!!

    ah awesome u learing czeck , so difficult , i know a bit o polish which looks like and is so difficult

  26. Gavin, if you start to watch Porta dos Fundos you will learn dozen of jokes and funny words and expressions. I think will be awesome for you to "se soltar"

  27. I could write thousands of words to express how good this video is, but let's go straight to the point: A W E S O M E

  28. I'm getting by myself with my English and my listening is in progress, although I'm reaching the so wishful fluency in this wonderful language. I remember when I was in the beginning of my studies confused about everything and even today I don't stop to study and all I have to say is thanks Gavin for give me motivation to never give up and now I can understand what you're talking about it's fantastic.

  29. Gratidão por sua decisão de executar uma das maiores e mais importantes profissões: ser este professor tão dedicado a nós brasileiros. Toda luz a você, independente do caminho que traçar.

  30. Alguém pode me dizer o que ele fala em 2:41? Eu não consigo. Se possível, encrenca em inglês aqui pra mim. Please. Thanks.

  31. Deu até uma pequena dúvida se, escrevia em PT ou em ING, mas, vamos seguir a onda dos comentários.

    Bom vídeo, Gavin!

  32. Você é incrível. Melhor pessoa do mundo. Fala português melhor que muito brasileiro. Os brasileiros te amam cara. Tamo junto

  33. Amo que em 11:50 ele pensa em português "give them more …*títulos chamativos*,like, attention grabbing titles"

  34. Gavin, você é realmente muito bonitão, cara hahahaha o cabelo sempre bem cortado, a postura, os gestos de apresentador de TV quase e o estilo que as vezes é de camisa ou boné pra trás.
    Cara… geralmente os Americanos tem fama de se vestirem mal no Brasil mas você deveria dar uma dicas pra gente e ainda por cima em inglês hahaha.
    Abração!

  35. H Gavin.. I also use duolingo.. I like to use that app to learn Spanish just by useing the English .. that way I can practice these two languages at the same time…. how often do use duolingo ?

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