Drum Technique Podcast 2 w/ David Diepold – Bass Drum Technique and Drum Practice Routines

Drum Technique Podcast 2 w/ David Diepold – Bass Drum Technique and Drum Practice Routines

hello and welcome to the second episode
of the drum technique podcast before we start off I want to thank everyone for
the great feedback we got after releasing the first episode the comment
section YouTube was filled with great positive feedback so thank you very much
for that the second episode focuses just like the first one on drumming technique
and career advice by that I mean that I only invite drummers who I think have
number one outstanding skills when it comes to either their hand or the foot
technique or both if possible and number two I only invite drummers who are able
and willing to share some of the knowledge and best practices in the
comments section of the first podcast a lot of you asked me to invite
a certain drummer who is also from Austria and who has become a pretty big name
when it comes to drum covers on YouTube so right now I’m happy to welcome David
Diepold as my guest on the drum technique podcast within the next 45 minutes you’re going
to learn how David started practicing at the age of six how he developed his foot
technique how he set up his bass drum pedals how he worked on his hand
technique how his hand technique changed pretty recently and so on this was
actually the first time that I met David in person and I have to say that I had a
great time he’s an awesome drummer and just a great human being all right
that’s it for this short introduction I’m sure you’re going to enjoy the
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you want a specific drummer to be the next participant on this podcast bye alright
welcome back to the second episode of the drum technique podcast today my guest
is mr. David Diepold hello everyone perfect let’s start right away with
question number 1 David at what age did you start playing drums and did you
start to play metal right away I did start playing drums when I was 6 years
old I went to a pretty standard music school which was kind of close to the
typical Austrian marching bands we have so during my first years I mainly
focused on developing a proper hand technique and playing rudiments and
stuff but all of that mainly on the practice pad and on the snare drum so I
didn’t spend too much time behind the kit so actually you’ve got a rudimental
background from early on yes I see okay that’s perfect and that sets you up
pretty well for the other metal stuff like single stroke doubles if you play doubles in metal but yeah alright that answers question number one okay let’s go into the
metal direction which double bass pedal would you recommend for someone who is
just starting out probably just a solid pedal you know
something that’s well manufactured and something that feels good to you a
reliable pedal and I guess nowadays pretty much every brand offers some good
quality pedals even in the lower price range or mid price range that’s true
would you rather go in the direction a like chain driven pedals or direction b
direct drive pedals once you start out I got beginner I’d probably say a
chain drive or maybe strap drive yeah
do you know the pearl eliminator strap drive yes cos I just tried it recently
looks are you got it yes okay so you got that question covered next question which
double bass pedal are you using right now I know that you’re using a variety
of pedals you use the axis pedals the Eliminator
and now they czarzie kopyto – yes so I kind of answered this question but let’s
elaborate on that one why the czarzie kopyto because there are the best
balance pedals out there mhm I mean there are so well manufactured so
reliable never had any issues with them they’re just great
but you switched from axis to the czarzie kopyto yeah exactly I tried all
kinds of pedals you know I also once had the demon drive and I tried trick and
axis of course and also the pearl eliminator but yeah czarzie kopyto is
just what’s the best choice for me okay perfect yeah I got one question about
the topic regarding the direct drive pedal I know your old drum covers like
let’s say the cattle decapitation dead set on suicide drum cover which is amazing
I’m a big fan of Dave McGraw and this covers like top notch and back in the
days you played there you use the axis pedals then from what I know
actually the axis pedal it got old you needed a new one and then you
tried out different pedals yeah okay so you got a chance to try a trick
pedal you try the demon drive you could also buy another axis pedal yes you had
axis a longboards yeah but you went for the czarzie kopyto although you had to wait
a couple of months yes so really the feel of the pedal and to reliability and
the craftsmanship exactly that was ok and now tell us about your settings
they are pretty much standard settings actually I only changed the beaters I
prefer a lighter beaters over heavy beaters okay and I just
max the spring tension and that’s pretty much it
the rest is almost factory settings I guess spring tension is at max yes was
it the same with the axis pedal okay awesome okay really high spring attention
yeah but do you find it difficult and hard to play mid-tempo stuff with a
really really high spring tension I kind of got used to it at the beginning it
was very hard especially the range between 180 and 200 bpm yeah right now
feels good to me yeah because you’re constantly working against the spring at
those tempos yeah yeah but are you using a full leg motion at those tempo or is it still
okay so you worked on that one like to be able to control the
beater at those tempos and then after 200 BPM you’re already able to play
just with your ankles your calves yeah so pretty much yeah yeah we’re gonna
talk about your technique anyways in a couple of minutes so let’s go to the
next question wait I got one more question about the
pedal settings axis pedal settings you had to axis a longboarsd yes like a lot
of our viewers own them as well the vdl yes where is it placed around
the middle round to middle yeah why did you try different yeah I tried different
positions but the kind of middle range just felt right to me you know to play
fast mid and super slow and whatever just all the tempo range it was kind of
good for me have you tried it like in there in the back position yeah but that
kind of always felt strange to me but I liked it because it felt it feels really
heavy number one and actually you only need a small foot movement and the end
result is a big beater movement because of the leverage okay but you went for
the middle but obviously it worked out for you yeah and the czarzie kopyto
is there the possibility like the VDL there I’ll set it up three
positions I guess you could choose off and also have the middle one
all right what sticks to use and do you prefer lighter or heavier sticks in
general I prefer heavier sticks in general and right now I kind of switch
between vater and Promark pretty much okay and right now I try the 7 4 7 b
with the nyon tip from pro mark so just have a little bit of extra length to it
and yeah they feel great they like to extreme 5b of vic firth yeah actually this
is the stick that I’m using ok ha that’s the one that’s what yes that’s my stick
that’s the one last question of the intro block yeah so perfect
do you trigger your bass drum and if so which triggers are you using right now
yes of course a trigger my bass drums I mean we’re talking about fast kind of
music and I think there’s just no way to get a proper bass drum sound without using
triggers so yeah I used triggers and I used the pedal trigger system I used it
for pearl demon drives for the axis for the eliminators and now for the czarzie
kopyto yeah and I’ve gotta say the triggers for the czarzie kopyto are by
far the most efficient and that’s manufactured I had they just work fine
for me yeah perfect did you also try the regular acoustic
trigger which you place on the bass drum hoop yeah yeah I had them for quite some time
actually and the problem I had with it was that I had to muffle the bass drum
so much that obviously you couldn’t get a good sound out of it by itself and
yeah that’s why I tried to find a trigger which you could mount on the
pedal like you know ekits or whatever and the pedal trigger system is it hard
to mount it no it’s very easy it’s easy I mean it’s
easy and I saw the czarzie kopyto yeah it was a bit tricky for the deamon
drives and for eliminator ones but for axis it was
also pretty easy okay all right let’s start with your hand
technique which grip are using when playing fast single strokes with your
hands I use match grip most of the time for my right hand it’s matched grip mostly
wrist motion and during some parts I am mixing some fingers and for my left hand
I had to get rid of the match grip and now I’m developing the push-pull
technique because I every now and then I got a really sore wrist super fast stuff
and I was looking for a technique that you know wouldn’t cause any problems so
yeah the push-pull technique seemed quite efficient to me and yeah are
you already applying the push-pull yes with my left hand so do you have a hard
time because especially with your left hand because left hand is mostly played
on the snare there we want like a clean attack all the time yeah so was it hard
in the beginning yes very hard especially following along the right
hand that was probably the hardest part to really get singles out of it and not
unisono strokes yeah but it’s it’s getting better every day and yeah feel
quite comfortable about it now perfect it’s still working progress
we are getting there because it’s kind of reverse then what everyone else does
because mostly drummers who use the push/pull uses with the right hand yeah
because it’s a bit easier to keep up like it raises your endurance we’ve got
a bit more power special your hi-hat where you don’t have a lot of rebound yeah
okay but you got it the other way okay are you planning to switch to the push
pull with your right hand as well for now you’re gonna I’m not sure for now I
don’t need it and especially you know you mention it all the different
surfaces you’re about to play with your right hand
pretty much hard to to do with the push-pull technique or at least for me
it’s hard to do so I kind of probably stick to the wrist motion and just
moving around okay perfect and for Tom fills you’re also
going to tom fills are a bit different yeah I would switch back to just wrist motion okay and
then when you go yeah play regular blasts you go back to regular push pull with your
left hand okay cool that’s interesting yeah have you recorded the video or yes
I think it’s not published yet but I also recorded two albums actually with
all push-pull technique yeah okay we’ll see some of that stuff okay perfect
all right are using a mix of wrists and fingers yes with my right hand
yeah okay and the push pull technique is actually wrists and fingers okay yeah
okay perfect yeah it’s interesting because you’re one
of the few guys who’s able to play really fast and your technique looks to
me actually it looks like you’re using German grip so the back of the hand is facing up all the time and usually the kind of stuff that I see everyday is
like okay French grip with a lot of finger involvement and for you its the total opposite it’s a lot of wrist and German grip all
the way and works out just great yeah that’s I guess it’s because of my
background marching band background how did you start working on your hand speed
and endurance when you first started off and please explain some exercises you
did when you first started out I can’t explain any exercises I’m a bit lazy
when it comes to a proper practice routine which is also because of my
background you know I spent so much time practicing on the on the pad and I
really hated it and so whenever I got the chance to sit behind the kid I would
just mess around and freak out and enjoy the time behind the kit so actually I
spent back in the days like two to four hours a day behind the kit yeah and just
played drums and that’s how I improved my technique when you practice like
let’s say your focus is okay double bass yeah not double bas let’s
focus on blast beats right now okay you focus on blast beats and you know okay I
want to cover this nile song for example like you do yeah okay the song is at
250 or 260 or whatever and your limit right now is 240 would you start like
playing blast beats really slow like let’s say
really like 140 150 160 and work your way up to BPM letter yes I guess I
actually did I mean I did it without a metronome at first I mean I just had to
figure out which kind of tempo felt right for me to start off and from that
kind of point I just kept pushing the limits okay but when you practice before
like let’s say for YouTube drum cover do practice this song at the slower tempo
or is it like okay I need to blast for let’s say 16 bars in this section so I’m
working on okay at least 32 bars at lower tempos to get it down I did then
work your way up to bpm ladder not so much I mean it depends on the song but
normally I only slow the songs down if I have to to you know work in a certain
fill in or something where I really need to check out where where are my hands
going and my feet and whatever is going on and usually when it’s about super fast
stuff or parts where I need a lot of stamina I would just sit down at home
probably in front of the TV and – single strokes for like half an hour no on the
pad so you are practicing I got you yeah but
yeah same thing I have to do okay obviously but the thing is since
your technique since you started working on your technique as little
kid like a six year old now you got the chance to practice in front of the TV
because actually normally I don’t like practicing I don’t recommend practicing
in front of the TV if your technique is not perfectly stored to your muscle memory
yeah because otherwise you’re gonna learn some bad stuff bad habits
yeah and this is gonna hinder your progress yeah okay but for you since you
got the background but I gotta mention I’ve had you know when I was rehearsing
at my parents basement I installed all mirrors on the opposite
wall of my drum kit so I could really watch myself playing and see from
sitting upright or if I’m leaning in whatever direction and if my hands are
moving the right way and so that helped a lot actually
that’s interesting I also went you know I’ve watched your YouTube videos
obviously as prepared as preparation for this drum technique podcast and I think it
was the it was the cattle decapitation cover where one guy wrote it’s fun to
watch you play and your posture is amazing like you’re really sitting up
straight and you look like yeah anyone okay perfect so the practice tip with a
mirror it worked out well for you obviously double bass foot technique at slow and mid
tempos let’s dissect your technique at those tempos for a bit
are you using a mix of hip flexors and calf muscles or is it just hip flexors at
tempos from zero to 160 beats per minute I’d say it’s probably all hip
flexor muscles and like Eric just pointed it out I’m just stomping my feet only hip flexors here how did you start
working on that was it on the pedal because you can also practice it stuff
on the floor without the pattern yeah I guess it was on the pedal on the pedal
you know like like I mentioned it was just playing drums yeah okay and I
really enjoyed it that much that I just kept playing and just doing whatever I
could to yeah that make it sound good yet the thing is what
advice would you give some because I get a lot of emails from drummers who are stuck like let’s say at 140 and the thing is you know at that certain point
around 140 150 they all tend to you know their hip flexors a bit too slow for
let’s say about 150 so their calf muscles take tend to take over and
that’s when they tend to loose control they are I’ve been there yeah okay for me
the seat height is the point yeah so I I tried all kinds of things and right now
need a second stick probably it’s the the 90 degree thing is a good place to
start mm-hmm right now it’s a 90 degree from the lower leg to your upper leg yes
yes so it’s probably like this right now I moved my chair up it up and also
backwards okay and now and that’s how I got rid of the problem with that
okay hip flexors and calf muscles yeah so actually your hip flexors and your
hip joints are always higher than your knee joints yes even if you lift your
feet for playing double bass they start just abit to just about as much
foot technique at faster tempos how did you work on your control and endurance
at tempos from 180 up to 220 BPM and I ask this question because I know that up
to 200 BPM you’re using your hip flexors and at the certain point you
need to use a mix of hip flexors and calves and then only your calf muscles how do
you work on that stuff and especially control it I’m still working on that one
especially because I don’t have that much time to practice right now so my
weak foot which is obviously the left foot kind of sucks right
and I same thing as ever I try to spend as much time behind the kit as possible
huh and I don’t isolate certain rudiments or
patterns or whatever I really just tried to keep balanced play and whenever I
feel like I need to break it just take a short break and then we’ll just continue
playing since you just mentioned your left foot
do you practice with your left foot like eighth notes and holding a backbeat not
so much I try to lead every now and then with my left foot
during songs or when I have a band practice or whatever just to kind of get
used to the feel you know the right foot is kind of resting and okay
yeah it changes your balance a bit that’s sometimes it feels weird
yes yeah I try to lead with my left foot okay perfect and since you
mentioned like you don’t have that much time to practice nowadays how much time
per week do you spend just practicing double bass right now because it’s the
summer break yeah pretty much I could spend a lot of time I actually
the last couple of days I was rehearsing drums for like one or two hours a day
yeah but I spent most of the time learning new songs and stuff not just
focusing on double bass technique but I did some rehearsing sessions only for my
double bass technique but that was when I was 17 or 18 or something okay so yeah
I don’t spend that much time at all okay so no and actually when you start
practicing a new song or a new cover or like for for your band that’s the time
when you also spend time practicing double bass yeah
next question explain some of the workouts and exercises you did to reach tempos above 240 beats per minute again I think the key was for me
the position of the chair so the right seat height and the right ankle from
these two to to the ankle downwards and I I just kept playing singles with
my right foot and my left foot then together combine it and that’s it I
don’t have any proper practice routine okay but many let’s say you want to
work on tempos above 240 BPM let’s say okay the metronome is not to 250
would you focus on endurance at those tempos I would you like play like short
bursts of one bar double bass then stop again because obviously you also have to
push your limits here if you want to play a song at 260 yeah I do the short
amount of time where you really keep pushing the rest and then push again and
rest and yeah and also don’t forget to warm up properly that’s true yeah and
how does a usual David Diepold Warm up session look like probably I would do
some jumping jacks I guess yeah maybe some push ups okay so you’re
not warming up at the drum kit no okay okay Jojo Mayer kind of clap thing yeah and
I have a power ball that’s pretty much it
and after that you’re good to go at 240 probably above swivel technique I know that they’re
using a hybrid between heel up double bass and swiveling especially with your
left foot yeah could you explain this motion in
detail because it looks like you’re either swivel from right to left after
two bass drum hits at some videos and in some other videos it looks
like your swiveling from left to right after three or four bass drum hits yeah exactly
it’s it’s not really a swiveling motion technique well what so ever at all it’s
basically just ankle motion yeah and swiveling just helps me keep the pulse
you know every second beat or every third beat if you’re in a triplet feel
okay and it also helps me to be able to play for a longer amount of time too
you using slightly different muscle groups and they kind of help to keep you
perfect and but you are mostly swiveling with your left foot yes that kind of
naturally fell into place and I just wanted to be able to control it
mm-hmm I didn’t really felt like I need to learn the real swivel technique which
is more or less a down and up stroke you know yeah I always felt comfortable
with the ankle motion okay yeah but that’s interesting actually it’s also
interesting for everyone who is watching and listening to this stuff right now
because actually this helps you keep your timing because yeah but you’re
using in-ear right so you hear that trigger signal do you have the same bass drum sound with the right or the left okay so I know the video where you have
different sounds yeah for left and right kick but I used the swivel motion to keep the pulse
okay so you and that’s it is the a big difference for you if you play if you
switch after every third stroke after every second so is it more difficult
like to play two strokes per side yeah three strokes actually feel easier in a
way I can’t explain really but I feel easier than two strokes or four strokes
okay I don’t know why I think okay perfect
if someone wants to try that stuff since you’re only using it with your left foot
would you recommend to start practicing like in the triplet feel because the
free stroke besides a bit easier maybe yes yeah I think it depends on what your
left foots doing when I started it out he was just moving around all over the
place I had no control over it yeah so I just tried to I think I first I started
off with four strokes per side and then two strokes and whenever I got into a
triplet feel I just used three strokes okay yeah next one when you start and
stop a bass drum pattern do you press your bass drum beater against the bass
drum head either you stop right before the bass drum head hardest part for me I
try to stop before the bass drum because obviously had miss triggers or
double triggers or whatever if I kept pushing against the head and that’s
especially with my left foot that’s something I really need to work on right
now get back in shape and be able to control them
whatever tempo I’m in also because here using a really high
spring tension yeah so it’s extremely difficult like to really bury the beater here
otherwise you don’t wanna you’re gonna get some double triggering okay but just
for example someone watches this video out there
or listens to the podcast and then and he’s using he or she is using a medium
to low spring tension and he’s used to bury the beater into the bass drum head
and he wants to use the pedal trigger system here
is it possible to play that way with the pedal trigger system without getting a
double trigger if you like really burry the beater I guess it should be possible
yes it really depends on how you said it you know if you I mean you have for the
pedal trigger system you have the nail or the newer ones have a sort of a metal
plate and if you just adjusted right so that the nail or the metal plate won’t
hit the trigger when you’re are resting the beater against the head then it
should be doable okay never tried it probably it will
work perfect good advice for everyone who’s using because not everyone is able
to play with a really really high spring tension double bass practice do you
ever get fatigued and tired and if so do you take days off of drumming yes you
have to take a lot of days off drumming yeah when I first started teaching I
kind of felt like I need to keep up that practice routine you know rehearsing
every every now and every other day or second day or whatever and spend a lot
of time behind the kit but that just didn’t work out no both things working
at school and rehearsing and private life and stuff that just won’t work or
it didn’t work for me so now I kind of try to find a healthy balance between
work and private life and rehearsing and since I’m able to use heel-toe I’m not
struggling that much to get back in shape yes I really don’t care if it’s
cheating or not whatever technique you can use to make it sound good use it go
ahead I think so yeah pretty much right now
I’m not that efficient when it comes to practicing or rehearsing right if I have
some time I’ll do it but if I don’t have some time I won’t bother me too much
okay yeah for the audience David is a teacher at an elementary school
yeah so this means he’s working five days a week so let’s say not right now
because right now there is summer vacation but let’s say a typical week
where you’re like teaching in school do you find time to like to practice 3
times a week or two times not really I mean it always depends there are some some times
during the school year where I will probably won’t rehearse for like one
month or one and a half months even because there’s just so much going on in school
where I can’t find the energy actually to go and rehearse I probably would have
time but if I’m not in the right mood and not really well I just won’t
spend the time rehearsing because it’s way too exhausting and not satisfying
and so I wouldn’t just do it okay but whenever I have the time I would go and
practice and during the school year probably all over the school year I’d
say once a week or maybe not twice a week once a week a pretty realistic year
okay and back in the days when you had more time to practice drums how many
times per week did you practice every day every day really okay yeah at what
if now for my audience what advice would you give someone who’s like who’s
practicing every day and now he’s stuck at a certain point because he’s just
tired at the moment he starts to practice drums how long would you
suggest to take off as long as you need the time off I’ve been there too and I
took probably three months off okay and I really just focused on my
life and did whatever I wanted to do and whenever it felt right I got back to the
kit that was fun again okay cool and since you mentioned that heel toe
technique let’s see with that topic for a bid you started using the heel toe like one
or two years ago am i right yeah perfect
how did you start practicing that technique like going through the motion
on the floor starting really slow directly on the pedal directly on the
pedals I guess I saw a video of Dave McGraw yeah David is the man yeah I kind
of tried to copy the motion on the pedals and I got it down pretty soon
with my right foot yeah after some some practicing I was able to do it and
it is way easier than the ankle motion or whatever at higher tempo so yeah
okay yeah and I mean I probably couldn’t do it on a chain drive pedal with low
spring tension for the heel toe kind of thing I really need the direct drive
and the high spring tension and also the light beaters so that the combination of
those three things make it quite easy for me though nowadays are you only
using the heel toe or still no I kind of switch back and forth
between it yeah so normally if I start a practice session I used the heel toe
kind of thing to warm up okay and as soon as it feels right I switch to a
ankle motion okay because he mentioned your left foot before that because your right
foot was was faster yeah did you practice like let’s say
rudiments like inverted doubles as well or like leading double doubles leading
with the left foot no it was just never regular doubles right right left left
I’m kind of like George Kollias said it once I guess you’ve got to train your
left foot to follow your right foot in order to you know start off right away
and really make it smooth so I never did too much exercises with leading with my
left foot or inverted doubles over okay and when it comes to dynamics and sound of obviously you hear a difference
between singles and doubles and you should hear it because it’s a different sticking did you work
on the dynamics as well because you know sometimes when I hear someone play he
heel toe double bss I think sometimes it sounds a bit unsatisfying let’s call it
that because the first hit is really louder and actually all you’re hearing
is regular 16th notes with some small hits in between I’d have to say I don’t care because I’m
using triggers since I use very light beaters I use the ACD unlimited beaters which
are from carinthia – dennis yes yes man that’s crazy dennis grew up like 30 minutes
away from the place where I grew up yeah okay we never met do you know crazy
maybe one day yeah and ever since my first hit got quieter
and my second hit got louder in a way so it sounds more even okay okay but these beaters are called dynamic beaters it yeah and you can also add some
extra weight you could can you please explain the you don’t add any weight okay so
it’s like the lightest version possible okay this works fine
okay that’s also great tip for everyone who’s using the heel toe maybe
try to use a really light beater just maybe to balance the two strokes a bit
thank you next one are there any non drum related exercises you do in
order to stay in shape at the drum kit I do a lot of hiking actually yeah but
it’s not so much because of the physical aspect of it it’s more because I just
like to enjoy nature and different places okay I can stuff do you
go to the gym no squads no how much do you bench yeah
okay next one how do you warm up in a live situation usually I don’t warm up
too much because I never was in the position to you know to start off
with a super fast one it was all kind of intermediate and then you know increased
doing the set yeah but for my next sessions I probably will have to do some
some exercises and and some proper warm-up also to nail the first track of the
set and I probably will do some jumping jacks and just single strokes on a
practice pad clapping thing from jojo mayer and I’ve got a power ball so
you also bring this one to the shows yes okay
YouTube and negative comments David you’ve taken the YouTube drumming world
by storm with drum covers of bands like nile cattle decapitation and many others
at this this moment you’ve got 5.7 million video views on YouTube which is
a lot although most of the comments you get positive and encouraging there still
appear some negative comments about your videos as well which is totally
normal if you’ve got that many video views how do you react to those comments
in general I try to at least read the majority of all the comments and if
there is some criticism I could really work on I probably do it but if it’s
just a mean comment I don’t care at all I got way more important things in my
life than they care about those dudes but actually yeah – just think about
critic and a critique from someone is good because then you can even improve
further yeah of course which is kind of ok yeah it’s clear did you ever think
about okay I got a negative comment why am i doing all this extra work
practicing recording the videos editing that’s a lot of work although the song is just 4 minutes long or let’s say five minutes it’s a lot of work and then you
get a negative mean useless comment you ever think about okay maybe it’s not worth it
for me yes so yeah there was at the time that I took
some months off of playing drums actually there was partly because of some mean
comments and also because I was competing myself too much with all the
other great drummers out there and I just didn’t felt like was I was making
any progress at all and so yeah but I I took some time off and thought about it
and then I was just like hell no I started it because I really enjoyed
music and playing drums so much that I wanted to share it with everyone else
and I don’t want some fools to to make me quit it is not worth it true yeah
also the one thing that you said before that you mentioned before was don’t compare
yourself to others yeah just this great quote by Jordan Peterson
which goes like don’t compare yourself to others compare yourself to who you
were yesterday yeah because thats a great one constant
progress working on yourself or improving your skills yeah well
thank you for that that’s the most important thing I guess mm-hmm perfect
yeah actually if you get negative feedback yeah you have to you have to at
least try to turn it into something positive
yeah I got a story about that one as well because it was like one or two
weeks ago when I got a comment on a bass drum video on YouTube which was kind
of mean I was like okay and you talk about a double bass at 250 but I don’t
see a video of you playing a 250 then as answer I posted a video of me
playing from 120 up to 300 bpm then this guy his name was Nick G I’m not gonna
say your last name but if you watch this I know who you are
and again really negative and yeah if you talk about if you try to play 300
BPM you have to play at least for a minute straight and and so on at one
point it was not just critiquing it was like insulting and then I deleted him i
banned him from the page and then he wrote me another message on my private
Facebook profile again talking about drumming and he told me that he is not
an internet nerd and not a hater and Wow and then I had
to ban him again and I was so angry that day and during the afternoon I had a
Skype session one of my students and when the session started off I
recognized okay I’m still angry because of this one guy but now I’m having a
great time with my student why am still angry and what I did then
because I’ve tried to turn this negative thing into something positive is that I
told my students about that story and then I said okay since I want to give
something back to the drumming community and to you as my student I’m going to
double the drum lesson so it was not 60 minutes it was 120 he was happy I was
happy after again so I’m not gonna give drum lessons for everyone who’s if you all start criticing me but but still yeah what a lot of people don’t seem to see is if you’re
putting yourself out there honestly if you’re playing it’s your face in front
of the camera constructive criticism is something really good yes but like just
hating and bad-mouthing and all of that stuff it’s not it’s not gonna help you
that’s number one it’s not gonna help someone else it’s not gonna help the
community yes so okay but like that we’re gonna
get into something positive that’s great yes thank you second to last question what are your
plans like gigs to a studio sessions and YouTube videos for the rest of 2018
okay I like I mentioned that I did some session work previously I recorded two
albums each one was like 8 songs I did 3 eps all with 4 to 5 songs and I shot some
drum playthroughs whilst all of those sessions yeah so they all probably will
be at least 7 or maybe even 8 playthroughs from those sessions I also
recorded two drum covers and I started working and preparing myself for some
other drum covers as well so there will be some new stuff hopefully pretty
soon as far as touring I’m not sure if it’s possible for me to really
become a touring drummer because I really enjoy being a teacher and you
know having a good job with a good amount of salary and I can make a living
out of and so I don’t see a point of making or becoming a touring drummer but for
session works pretty much depends on on whatever gig it is right
now preparing myself for some gigs with monument of misanthropy and oh from vienna
yeah and I probably will do some more recording sessions during the summer
yeah so there should be plenty of new stuff regarding your YouTube covers because
I already see the comments coming on this one do you want to name them
already I could yeah you don’t have to some super fast stuff from anaal nathrakh
mm-hmm some despiced icon I can yeah okay absolutely some slipknot and some aborted – aborted from the new record I have done one from the older
ones but I’m not sure if I should upload it right now or wait with a new record
and then do something off of the new album mm-hmm we’ll see perfect thank you
and I also did some some black metal stuff okay I’m super fast black metal
stuff you can guess whatever it is I guess my guess is dark funeral okay
perfect we are almost done okay thank you David for being here the drum technique
podcast thanks for the interview it’s an honor your final words for our audience
thanks to everyone who supported me over the years that really really means a lot
to me and I really appreciate it like I said
don’t compare yourself too much with others stay focused stay relaxed find a
healthy balance between your life or your social life and your music career
or whatever you are trying to achieve with it and if you want to improve get a
lesson from Marthyn thank you – he’s the man I didn’t pay for that yeah go
practice thank you this example you can see the David
playing at 150 BPM right now he is just using his hip flexor muscles so his
calves are not assisting this motion at fast tempos David is just using his
calf muscles hip flexors are not involved in this motion since David is using
such a high spring tension he has to place his foot a bit further back on the
pedal this way it’s easier to control the pedal at those tempos once David passes the point
220 beats per minute his foot is placed towards the front of the footboard this way
he is able to shorten the stroke a bit still each stroke is just generated by a
contraction of his calf muscles I was really impressed when I saw David
play at high tempos we have recorded these short examples right after
recording our podcast so David had no time to warm up still he was able to
demonstrate the side-to-side motion and playing really fast in this example he is
playing two strokes per side and remember he described it as regular heal
up technique and not as the swivel technique with this lateral motion from left to
right it’s just easier for him to stay on the click this is a really cool hack for everyone
who needs more control at higher tempos big thank you goes out to David for
showing his technique right here you see his side-to-side motion with three
strokes per side okay that’s it for the second episode of
the drum technique podcast the thing that I found really really interesting was how
David manages to use a side-to-side motion of his foot which is not the same
thing as the swivel technique to be able to play perfectly tight at higher
tempos I’ve already got a couple of drummers in mind who I want to invite to
be a part of this so don’t forget to subscribe to this podcast to make sure
you don’t miss the next episode you can also find this podcast on iTunes and
stitcher so make sure to follow us there as well I hope you enjoyed this one
don’t forget to comment below if you want a certain drummer to be a part of
this drum technique podcast until next time cheers from Vienna bye

100 thoughts on “Drum Technique Podcast 2 w/ David Diepold – Bass Drum Technique and Drum Practice Routines

  1. In this episode of the Drum Technique Podcast I got the chance to interview David Diepold.
    David explains his double bass technique in detail, how he sets up his pedals, why he switched to czarzie kopyto pedals, how he worked on his hand speed, what kind of bass drum triggers he uses etc…

  2. This was very interesting, thank you very much! If you ever happen to have a chance to get Gene Hoglan featured, that would be really awesome!

  3. Loved that you quoted the good Dr. Jordan Peterson! I'm currently reading his new book "12 rules for life". Have you read it? I love it, so far.

  4. The trigger solution i have is "Trigmic" lazer triggers and it works fine if you want to rest against the head or not, dosent mistrigger coz it feels no power in that stroke or so.. i never get any mistriggers at all and its a module and trigger in one for like 199dollars. Even possible to upload your own sound on it and so on. i think i got it from russia and i dont know much about it but i saw a video with Wanja gröger where he shows it of and i got interested.. But the "machinegun" setting dont work for me coz i get trigger both on the hit and on the way back. But on the "Dynamic" setting it works totally fine ! =)

  5. First of all, I love when a group of people who know their stuff just sit in a room and nerd down the rabbit hole regarding a topic. It's like surfing on their mental wavelengths. I love it.
    Second, Mr Diepold is a monster and this podcast is awesome.

  6. Great stuff, Marthyn! Eugene Ryabchenko is the drummer I would like to see in one of your upcoming podcasts.

  7. Thank you so much for sharing this awesome video as well as the one with Eric Morotti. Advice from such amazing, down-to-earth drummers is so precious.

    I'd love to see an interview with Dave Culross. I've always been a huge fan of his drumming – every hit sounds so deliberate and he's so good at making everything sound groovy and organic, even when blasting like crazy.

  8. Thank you Martin and David! I usually don't comment much in drumming videos unless they really impact and inspire me to say something good. That is because I know how much work it takes from developing your skills, recording, editing and presenting it. Great video showing David's outlook about his drumming. I've been following David's videos for a couple of years now and it has helped me immensely to see and apply some of his foot techniques into my drumming. I don't consider myself an extreme drummer. I am more of a progressive drummer in the sense of innovation and exploring and developing new ideas. I classify myself as an outcast drummer. But all these ideas about foot and hand technique apply to any drumming style or genre of music. I believe it is up to the musician to take them, use them, and develop them further in order to facilitate their performance and pass them to others. Great work David! Amazing job Martin! Keep it Up!!! You got a new subscriber!!! Thank you!

  9. Good job on the podcast. I have three drummers I would love to see. George kollias of course lol. Guido Wyss and then Morgan Sansous. The latter two play with quad pedals which seems to be a no no in today's world but I also am trying to learn this and it would be nice to hear from them and get hopefully good discussions about quad pedals. Thanks for your work on here!

  10. David is the biggest Inspiration for my Drumming and im really happy to get more details and background kinda stuff from him, really helpfull!!

  11. What a great podcast! Especially the talk about letting social media and comments affecting your playing mood and feelings. David is a great drummer, glad you chose him to be one of your guests. Thanks!

  12. OMG!! David is an inspiration to me, he is a beast on the drums and plays so well with an excellent technique. It's nice to see drummers of technicians and professionals, playing a style of music criticized by many. No doubt David is among my favorites as Sebastian Lanser, Alex Rudinger, James Stewart, Krimh, Romain Goulon, Hannes Grossman, etc. etc. They are all incredible playing at an almost impossible level and so technical and pro.
    Excellent note, thank you very much for that! greetings from Argentina!!!!

  13. This podcast is so awesome! A really great idea and its awesome to hear about other drummers experiences and philosophy! Keep up the good work!
    Drummers who would be cool to see in this would be: Gene Hoglan, Emil Wiksten, Horgh, Krimh, Ryan Van Poederooyen, Nils Fjellström, and many more!


  14. I just found your channel, and under one of the black metal videos I commented you should analyze David Diepold's drumming… and here it is. 🤘

  15. Yeah great, why didn't I have an insane extreme metal drummer as a teacher in school instead of those socially inept, sluggish bastards? 'snot fair!

  16. I'm very curious to know if David's left sore wrist is due to druming? Big thanks for the vidéo, that allow us to see how down to earth are those monster of extrem drumming.

  17. WHAAATTT!!! I found your Kerim video yesterday and was like YO!! and now today i find David Diepold!!! m/ >..< m/ AWESOME!

  18. thank you Marthyn !! 😀 was just wondering here and there – I don't care about nationality bs I love all people and see all as equals and of earth and life – but you have a Balkan/Croatian/Serbian name, your accent is French but you are from Austria if I am correct and speak perfectly English and German/Austrian haha and a super good drummer on top of it all with a very good heart!! you are a good combo of all the good things 😀 respect Marthyn!!

  19. amazing video – you two get along so well I see it in your smiles 😀 love the interview love you guys stay well rock on !

  20. Marthyn, you do a wonderful job making these videos! You really ask the right questions and know when to add some of your own knowledge as well. Very helpful for the drumming community! Thanks!

  21. Als ich 1999 angefangen habe Schlagzeug zu spielen, gab es nur vier Dinge zum Üben: die Bettkante als Sitz, ein Hocker mit Buch als Practicepad, ein paar Bambusstöcke als Drumsticks und die Musik die ich mochte.

    Ich bin zu Konzerten gegangen um zu sehen wie es andere Schlagzeuger machen, wie sie spielen, wie die Motion beim spielen ist, wie das Setup ist…alles wollte ich wissen. Es gab keine „Metal-Drum-Tutorials, es gab kein „How-Todo-it“ und es gab kein YouTube.

    2003 hatte ich die Möglichkeit Derek Roddy auf einer Hate Eternal Tour kennenzulernen. Er war geduldig, aufmerksam und konstruktiv als er mich kurz vor dem Soundcheck an seinem Schlagzeug spielen ließ.
    Später nach dem Gig erzählte er mir das er ein umfassendes Lehrvideo für „Basic-Stamina“ und „Extreme Beat Techniques“ mit seinem Camcorder aufgenommenen hat und selber vertreibt. Leider hatte er keins dabei.

    3 Jahre später ging YouTube an den Start und ich sollte ebenjenes Video dort finden. Ein Meilenstein für mich.

    Der Rest ist Geschichte.
    Das Derek-Roddy-Forum, Blastology und dann SickDrummer.com.

    2018 gibt es aber mehr. Und dein Account, lieber Marthyn, ist so ziemlich genau das was ich mir damals wie heute immer wünsche und gewünscht habe: klare Analyse gepaart mit der Erfahrung und Wertschätzung eines extrem Metal Drummers der immer die Augen über den Tellerrand hat!

    Much Love 🖤

  22. David Diepold is the kind of drummer you watch and than you set your drums on fire because you know you will never be that good.

  23. Really cool stuff. I didn't know David, but yeah, thanks to this podcast I had the opportunity to watch his stuff, and is really amazing.

  24. Watched a lot of your videos. And most drummers, including you, have one main thing in common. No matter the settings, techniques, pedals etc. You can achieve a very similar result in any situation with just practicing a lot. Glad youre putting out great content explaining this. Really great stuff🤙

  25. Thank you both what a fantastic podcast I have retired the biz put down the sticks for 7 yrs for my own reasons but drumming is in my blood and am again buying a new kit watching the honesty here chuckling at you both speaking better English than some people here in Canada lol very inspiring information

  26. For a next technique podcast, it will be really cool if you can invite Nils "Dominator" Fjellström, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ! It's one of my favorite Drummer and I am interesting to discovered his history !

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