Does a RUG help reduce ECHO? Video and Podcast Studio Build

Does a RUG help reduce ECHO? Video and Podcast Studio Build


– How much can a rug
reduce the echo in a room? As you can see, I’m building
out a new podcasting studio here at the WeWork in
San Diego, California, and it sounds terrible. I wanna run a couple test
and have you and I both hear what works better. We’re gonna test sort of a regular carpet, we’re test a shag carpet
against zero carpet which I’ll test with
this handy 6-H recorder in just a minute. But is it actually worth putting rugs down to help reduce echo in your room? My prediction is partly based on a bias because I love shag carpets. I have them all around my house and I know that it reduces less. (laughing) Just kidding, I don’t
own any shag carpets, but I’m expecting that one to work better just because there’s more
space inside the sort of fibers for the sound to get absorbed into. We’ll see, but I wanna
show the space a little bit to show you what we’re working with and the challenges that we have. All right, so in a previous video I shared some of the plans for this space. This is the desk that
you might have recognized that’s gonna be my podcasting,
my live shooting space and obviously I don’t
want echo in that content. Now, we are a little bit challenged with this big glass paned window here and this hallway of course. You might have windows in your space that you have to deal with too so we’re gonna deal with that later, but for now let me walk you over to the other podcasting space. We’re also gonna be doing some live videos from here too. This is where we’re
gonna do some interviews and stuff like that
which is really exciting, but let me just give you a quick rundown of how echo actually happens. So if I’m recording in a
microphone, for example, yes, sound is going into
the mic, it’s picking it up, hopefully we have a great microphone, but a lot of that sound
gets passed over the mic and around you. It bounces across the walls
and the ceiling and the floor and it comes back into
the microphone later, which is why you hear that
sort of repeated thing that you just said later on and the sound, it just doesn’t sound very
good, especially when it comes to the higher level of
standard you should have for your audio in your
podcast and your video. Now, one of the biggest
surface areas here in this room is look down. It’s the floor. So, yeah, we’re gonna
see if we can just cover this whole surface area with carpet and what kind of difference that makes. That, with a regular kind
of carpet and a shag carpet, we wanna compare. We’re gonna start with
a test with no carpet. So I’m gonna put the audio recorder on, we’re gonna test some
clicks and some claps, something I’m gonna say,
I’m gonna repeat that throughout the whole process here, and we’ll be able to tell
which one actually works better or if at all. Okay, so let’s start with test number one with zero carpet whatsoever in this room. So we’re gonna switch to the
audio, the zoom right now. Now you should be able to
hear the bassline audio for what we’re testing and it should sound even more echoey because
I have a gain turned up and it’s sort of capturing
the ambia sound in the room in general, so here’s what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna do three claps,
do a click with my mouth ’cause I can do that, then
I’m gonna actually bring the microphone up to my mouth and just say a little something and I will repeat that throughout the whole
process, so here we go. (clapping) (clicking) Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. All right, back to the other mic now. That’s a good baseline. Well, let’s put carpet number one in and then we’ll test
them against each other, so here we go. (upbeat music) So we just placed a 10 foot circular rug right underneath me. It doesn’t cover the entire space, but already I can tell there’s
some sound differences. We’re gonna do the official
test in just a moment. Well, let’s switch to the H-6
as you’ll be able to hear now. (clapping) (clicking) Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. (clapping) (clapping) (clicking) (clicking) Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. So as you probably heard, there’s a little bit of a
difference, which is nice. It just shows you that you
don’t need to go all out with covering your entire
hardwood floor with carpets or buying the most extravagant,
nicest-looking rugs in order to help reduce the sound. As you can see, this is
just a 10 foot circle that’s right underneath me right now and you can get them at
a very discounted price at thrift stores or discount
stores and things like that, even online like at Overstock.com
for a pretty cheap price. So we heard a little bit of a difference with, again, a 10 foot wide circular rug. What happens if you cover the entire thing and have a little bit
thicker material like shag? That’s what we’re gonna
actually install right now. (upbeat music) All right, now we have
the shag carpet installed. It’s a little bit bigger. It’s 10 foot by 14 feet,
so it almost extends all the way across the room and it covers most of the surface area on the floor. But right now I’m gonna
switch to the H-6 recorder and then we’re gonna run the
same test and we’ll compare. So here we go. (clapping) (clicking) Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clicking) (clicking) (clicking) Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. Hey, this is Pat Flynn from
SmartPassiveIncome.com. All right, so I think it was
pretty obviously that when installing rugs or carpet in a room, you’re gonna reduce the echo a little bit because it’s one whole surface area, a large one, the floor,
that no longer reflects the sound anymore or
absorbs most of it at least. However, as you can tell,
there’s still some echo in the room and we have
a lot of work to do both on the ceiling and
the side walls as well, plus the sort of glass
panel behind you too. So we still got some work to
do and we have some options. So make sure you hit subscribe
because in the next video we’re gonna test some DIY
things and we’re also gonna test some of those cheap egg crate
looking acoustical panels versus some high-end ones from Audimute and we’re just gonna compare
and keep running tests as we build out the space. And, yes, you might be
looking at the corner here and seeing that the carpet
is a little too long, that’s okay, we’ll cut
it with a box cutter. I’ve cut the rug before. (dancing) Cutting the rug, uh uh uh uh. Okay, no, but seriously, let us know, did you hear a difference
between the different tests? Let us know in the comment sections below and we still have some work to do. As you can tell, there’s five
different flat surfaces here with nothing on them that
still needs some treatment. And in the next upcoming
videos we’re gonna treat them in different kinds of ways,
so make sure you hit subscribe and now maybe you’re more
informed to understand that a carpet can help or a rug can help, but not all the way. So, make sure you subscribe. Looking forward to serving
you in the next videos and Team Flynn, you’re amazing. Team Flynn for the win, cheers. So this is another test
that has me very close to the carpet. I just wanted to see
what it would sound like. I think it sounds pretty good. I think I’m thinking
about maybe doing podcasts like this in the future
plus if the interviewee is boring, I can just kind of fall asleep. (yawning)

54 thoughts on “Does a RUG help reduce ECHO? Video and Podcast Studio Build

  1. Pat, this is awesome! Eddie and I are building a house and the "Gathering Room" where our instruments will be (instead of a living room) measures 23'2" x 19'2". Instead of wood flooring in this room, we chose carpet (sadly, not shag…) to help deaden the echo. This room will also be used to do our podcast! Looks like we are on the right track with carpet versus no carpet. I look forward to seeing the things you show us for the walls and/or ceiling to further help eliminate echo! Loved this video. Kitty

  2. Really good.

    I'd love to hear you talk about the Zoom H6 and why you use it. Plus any Zoom H6 tips/advice that you have.

  3. I'm actually setting up a recording studio for my wife right now and this is really timely. I'm planning on using an egg-carton type mattress pad for the walls.

  4. Very informative. Thanks for the side by side. Now I have to seriously consider adding a shag carpet to my setup. Thanks Flynn!

  5. Man, the problem I have is I live in Costa Rica and rugs are a NO NO because of mold and excessive rain here. haha, but yes all floors here are slab/tile and the walls concrete, and it would be nice to have something like on the walls maybe to help with echo.

  6. 6:08 my mouth dropped wide open before I belted out a laugh that came straight from my gut 🤣🤣😂😂😂

  7. Really bold to put this experiment online. Useful for others. Did not expect this difference between the middle and last one.

  8. Very big difference! I would also be interested to hear what you use the H6 for as I have it too 🙂 Thanks

  9. Great test, Pat! I just converted a walk-in closet into a podcast studio and settled on Acoustic Blankets from VocalBoothToGo. It made a HUGE difference! The noise reduction is incredible.

  10. I am learning so much from your videos – Thank you. I did notice that I heard more of the plosives when you were on the shag – you didn't mention it – but to my ear they really popped [pun intended]

  11. I would recommend adding some acoustic treatment in the corners, the corners have TERRIBLE flutter echoes.

  12. Yes, using the carpet made a discernible difference, and the full coverage carpet provided more damping than the smaller (round) carpet. Using a foam underlayment pad will control the echo even further, and it feels so nice underfoot!

  13. Dude, you DO cut a rug! But you REALLY got down at the end! Caleb MUST have been involved in this, LOL. What is the brand of acoustical panels you mention in the video? I'm having a hard time catching the name. Love to check them out. Keep dishing out the good stuff!

  14. Rugs def better… noticed a difference btw the two rugs, but just barely. If you didn’t have them side-by-side, I would not have known the difference. Great tests, love watching this as I am building my own studio at the same time. So sorry to hear about what you had to go through, but team flynn for the win!

  15. Love this! Interested to see what you do w/the walls. I used thin carpet tiles in my studio (not great but an improvement) and some one-inch tiles on the walls. The command strips weren't strong enough, though, so most found a new home on the ground. I need to repaint (the walls don't look great), then I'll find a more permanent way to get them on the walls.

  16. Carpet will only help with higher frequencies. Good acoustic treatment can be made DIY pretty inexpensively and will work far better.

  17. Of course it helps a bit. Getting appropriate acoustic treatment will mitigate all the offending reverb & standing waves with those parallel walls. Looking forward to seeing and hearing the final space 👍🏼

  18. GREAT episode for audio (podcast) and video (livestream/vlog) producers! However, the reverberation seemed to be tighter in the full floor test, which is why you’re dressing the walls and the glass. I’ve found DIY “sound clouds” helpful (and decorative) on the ceilings (basically, a sheet of plywood, 4’x8’, nailed to a frame that is in a half-Circle shape and hung on the ceiling. They should be in a checkerboard pattern as a means of dispersing the audio in an irregular pattern.
    Next, drapes on the glass.
    Finally, 4’x4’ frames with carpet padding covered in your favorite cloth (even silk screened patterns – like T-shirt’s sewn together and stretched across the frame.

  19. I was literally looking at my options for my hardwood floor yesterday…have you been listening to me via my phone? 😂

  20. There are apps to measure the echo so you can graphically see the change and get a quantified value, not just run audio comparisons.

  21. Love what you're doing with these new videos, Pat! I have a large spare master bedroom as my office/studio. It's fully carpeted but still catch an echo in my recordings. Can't wait to see the next audio panel episode! I think that's the next step for me 🤔

  22. Floors are supposed to be left hard from my research because humans get our bearing from reflections near our feet. Making the room too "dead" messes with us. Top, sides, and ends bruh.

  23. Very cool test! Love teh way you put it together, people normally do this with no back to back tests and that never really works haha

  24. hello pat . i can’t explain why but i feel you step up your you tube game a lot ! i always loved your content but it’s obvious for me you expand your zone of confort , and i like it . am not an expert , just a fan thought.

  25. In the 70's we installed shag carpet in custom vans, not to cut the echo, but to prevent the sound from escaping the van…. Worked like a charm. Some even carpeted the sides and roof of the van with shag as well. Do that & you'll have a groovy sound booth!

  26. Great info! New subscriber – I am learning a lot. We are getting started with a podcast and your videos have been a great help.

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