AR glasses & Apple Car rumors, iPhone rumors, Group FaceTime | Macworld Podcast Ep. 617

AR glasses & Apple Car rumors, iPhone rumors, Group FaceTime | Macworld Podcast Ep. 617


set now we go welcome to the Macworld
podcast everyone is in the house today in the house in the house we got Jason
cross hello life Johnson oh yeah and the man behind the mic you are sir also
behind the mic but I’m also screen yes the man behind this behind the scenes
that’s what I meant to say the most important man in the room maybe because
you’re here today lost that lost that title dad’s the most important man in
the room because he is tracking our YouTube and Twitter feeds for your
comments and questions if you got any thoughts on the show please let us know
Dan will chime in with your guys’s thoughts and questions it’s the most
important part of our show it gets us going so let us know what you guys are
thinking on today’s topics we’re gonna talk about group face time we’re gonna
talk about my phone rumors but first we’re going to talk about a report that
came out this morning about the possibility of Apple a art glasses and
an Apple car coming in the next few years
mmm-hmm so Ming Qi Ming cheek wall forgive me if I’m pronouncing that
incorrectly I I’m Asian but I’m not Chinese and some would even say as some
of my relatives even say to me you’re not really asian-american first I think
I say the jungle Asian yes Ali Wong puts that I am a jungle Asian worm in
ching-kuo put out a report and it was more a research note than like he was
more he does now yes right he was doing a research and came to these conclusions
on his it wasn’t necessarily based on direct
information that he’s found right often has a lot of his a lot of his research
notes and stuff that he writes are based on sources in the supply chain that say
something like you know the this the iPhone this year is gonna have three
cameras or something right because he knows the parts being ordered and stuff
yeah he’s busy one two together yeah and he literally knows like the
suppliers for Apple what they’ve what have been ordered somebody tips him off
this is not that right this is just he’s going off of the other sort of rumors
and stuff going on and trying to make a an analysis of Apple’s long-term
prospects yeah what what new things are gonna bring to market and stuff run and
when it’s just weaker when he doesn’t is it I mean course but you know his job he
works for finalists Fuhrman that’s what he does but he’s been pretty spot on or
close to spot-on in the past so that’s why people pay attention to him
definitely one of the most respected ones yeah you were gonna say well you
can say like so is this so much as a rumor versus a speculation like what’s
the how do we define the to come see comes to speculation that starts the
rumor yeah this is all really and right in line with Mark Garmin’s report from
earlier in the year at Bloomberg where he where he said that Apple is working
on this big a hourglasses project yeah probably gonna launch in somewhere
around 2020 now COO is saying the same thing right not saying I have different
verifiable independent sources on this he’s just saying like hey these are the
things that out this is all part of Apple being worth of trillion dollars
and going well how could they get to 2 trillion this is what they’ve got going
on in there right the the bigger thing were not bigger but like the the thing
people are glomming onto more is that the car the literally bigger thing yeah
thing is that and they thinks that and he thinks that an Apple branded car a
car made by Apple will be ship in 2023 to 2025 so we’re on
timeframe which seems reasonable it seems like a reasonable timeframe
whether or not Apple would make a car themselves right or make software for
other car makers or what is the thing that nobody seems to be an agreement on
and honestly at this point Apple may not even know for sure right I mean it may
be working and exploring all these possibilities and then decide you know
what being a car company he is right like a whole other ball of wax that we
don’t want to get into and they sort of kind of gave that impression recently
yes by saying we’re only gonna work on software like car play and stuff like
that but yeah then they had this most recent hire of the Tesla guy I forget
his name yes he was an Operations guy right he was with Tesla and he worked on
the model 3 in any now he’s back at Apple yeah it was at Apple he was at
Apple left for Tesla came back to Apple and he’s working on what they call
project Titan which is all the self-driving cars but it still doesn’t
say whether or not they’re just gonna make effectively a computerized driver
or a whole car you know you’ll buy a car with an Apple logo yeah so I think
that’s kind of dangerous for Apple because you know so far it’s been these
you know lovely little items that we interact with in our daily basis this
you’re literally putting your life in Apple’s hands and we’ve seen what we’ve
done with Apple maps and everything even with the improvements I mean that’s
that’s a whole like Jason was saying that’s a whole new ball game and that’s
new liabilities new you know that could you know people start dying in there’s
things that could really change the image of the brand I don’t you know I’m
not I’m not even really big on it just for that well Phil Phil Pallen on
YouTube is asking do you think there’s some kind of relationship investment
technology partnership with between Tesla and Apple because that wouldn’t
make a you know I mean if you think about companies that wouldn’t make sense
where I think Apple would be able to kind of really control that ecosystem
and be like this is the experience yeah and that is it it would probably be with
Tesla it’s not going to happen with anyone else it would be but Tesla is
really has wagons circle yes they won’t they don’t
even support car player Android auto they have their own Maps stuff all their
own software’s their own like they really really like they won’t even tell
you what hardware is used in their car for their sort of self-driving stuff
they’ve been using in videos platform for a while they’re supposedly building
their own like they I think they they wanna they have a very not built here
culture and I don’t think they would necessarily do that but what if but what
if so it came out was late last week yeah
that’d be a lot of mosque wants to take tons my private right which would take
and he has said he has to funding but there have been reports that say he
doesn’t really have them he’s safe yeah the board the board was like oh you
do I’ve seen I want to say it was like 60 billion yeah it’s it’s a lie he wants
to do it at 420 shares which is which yeah it works on talking the drones many
many billions dollars and you know Apple has 245 billion sitting there so what if
Apple said hey Ilan yeah there’s some money you know will be to take it
private will be your partner but you know I don’t know how they got the
logistics of that I’m not saying apples doing that but now the the rumors it’s
the funding is from Saudi but yeah that doesn’t sound like an Apple way to go
you know it doesn’t sound like an awful way to go but most likely I mean it’s
really hard to be a car company just getting the the scale of your supply
chain to get all the pieces and parts you need to build a car into the place
that you actually build the car and then get those cars all around the world is a
massive multi-year undertaking that nobody successfully does like that Tesla
has survived for is it a decade even yet yeah yeah and has bled money the whole
time yeah is a minor miracle right you can you can just like take off all the
car companies that have died you know so well it’s also so crazy
overvalued right I mean well I’ll say it’s it’s I believe it’s so crazy if you
look at how many you know the revenue that they bring in is like a tenth of
like GM or you know but there’s your equal basically like almost you know
right the same in value that there’s a future yeah there’s that but there’s
also even if the car thing doesn’t work out that just the battery plant they
have they could stop building cars and still have half the in a few years love
half the world’s battery production it’s just there’s there’s other issues they
make solar they bought so should easily make for hours so yeah there’s yeah I
don’t know if if Apple and Tesla are working would would even work together
but there’s no sign that they are it seems like the car companies that
they’re working with are it’s not Mercedes is it
there’s a couple other car companies that they appear to be working with in
terms of using their cars to make test platforms and stuff and none of them is
Tesla’s yeah if they are working with what Tesla they’ve they’ve done a very
good job of keeping it under wraps Tesla’s so far down the road on their
own autonomous driving technology what are they gonna throw that out and use
apples and and wait I mean they want to they want to push that out like this
year or next year they’re gonna wait three or four years for apples thing
yeah in a way though that is kind of like what I could see how Apple could be
attracted at because Apple wants to own all those processes yes yeah Tesla’s
dirty owns those processes it’d be a way of owning it without you know if they
were to acquire it behind why people think Apple would make actually make a
whole car and not just make software a software and hardware platform or self
the self-driving part of other car companies cars is that then they could
get into car financing and you know how their and and that’s that’s kind of the
both of their companies all the service thing stresses services Apple Care the
Apple like five phone replacement program and stuff like that like that’s
the next big and it’s very lucrative that’s a huge thing it takes a lot of
money to district get it started they have a lot of money so well less in that
direction you know that would also be a very Apple thing because you know they
love having the hardware and the software and knowing how those two work
together yeah so in a car that Apple actually makes yeah that would be an
extension of that I right yeah I think even if they only make quote the the
driver part it would be the driver and cameras and the heads-up display unit
and yeah those things would all like that part of it would all be Apple star
you know and then the part that actually turns wheels would be made by whoever
yeah what’s that a plan that Apple has where you get a new phone every year
it’s not an iPhone replacement plan it’s the iPhone what is it car I forget what
it’s because you guys how much does that cost I don’t have it I just yeah I just
buy it to own it because I the resale value is high enough yeah that I I’m
better off recently it’s a great program yeah I was wondering how much would the
Apple car upgrade program cost right but I mean if you think about if you think
about it it’s kind of what Elise is yeah you know in just three years you would
turn it in and get another this city every year by Apple car watch they take
Apple pay for your car payments per second so it’s your car fob also yeah
yeah I mean they already do that with some with some cars Ursula’s Tesla’s app
will unlock the car and all that stuff but you sell to open up the app yeah
this would be just it just attack your iPhone and yeah yeah that would be
theirs what you could do have you been in an m3 I haven’t but I haven’t been
inside one yeah cuz it’s I mean there’s no – it’s basically just the screen
yeah it’s just a screen in the middle which is awkward yeah let’s it looks
awkward to me and it just sounds strange to have no instrumentation within your
eyes where the wheel is yeah on the other hand I’ve from people who’ve
driven it they say like you see you you quickly get used to it you look over
there all the time for your map and stuff anyway yeah they clearly designed
that car to eventually drive itself yes exactly yes right I know that there’s a
lot of weird legal and liability things because like for example my car has one
big screen in the middle but then it also has like like the separate system
that’s just like how’s your speed and they’re two completely separate system
this for my car right and the one that’s like the main screen where you can
control like you know music or audio plus you know navigation and all that
mhm that one crashes all the time like it’s
just like restarts and I’m on a Toyota it’s our own thing but it’s yeah yeah
that’s that’s I mean that’s one of the things you if that’s gonna be your whole
screen for everything it needs to be bulletproof it needs to be have all the
redundancy needs to be as stable and reliable as just that little thing of
your like speed and that’s a separate system mine’s like that – I have a Chevy
and I have a middle thing that does carplay and android auto and i have a an
LED fancy graphics thing for you can change the way it looks and all that
stuff but that for my speed and energy use and all that stuff and we have a
couple of comments from YouTube first og says Apple car would be lease worldwide
question mark and then and then also Shawn says Johnny I’ve would improve
that screen in the middle so yeah what kind of a minimalist experience would he
give yeah that’s from carplay good or bad for him it does look like to me it
looks like a big 17 inch or 15 inch screen on line
iPhone holder yesil which is kind of strange yeah let’s send it straight it
almost looks tacked on uh-huh so and I understand from from reading other
articles about you know Ilana muscles goal was to have nothing on the dash and
he wanted that screen but it does look like the screen is kind of an
afterthought but you know we have what OLEDs now that wall that could probably
wrapped and they compared to the Model S where it’s vertical and it’s integrated
right does look tacked on I think part of it is was a cost constant Ryan
they’re trying to make things less expensive to run factor
yeah maybe Johnny I would make a better have there been any renders of like a
fake Johnny I’ve inspired caller was he involved with like the design for
like you know the whole you know antenna gate be like you’re not holding the
steering wheel correctly yeah that’s your fault one of the fortunate things
about designing the cars that there are numerous safety regulation standards
that things have to go through and tests upon test upon tests on tests before you
can sell a car would it be released worldwide who knows they may night
they’re they’re probably not even making one we’re like oh yeah I know for all we
know they’re not we know they’re not even making any kind of actual whole car
I think it would be you know they would steal a staggered release it would be
yes and stuff in yeah meet 12 countries first and then more worldwide there
would be the US first I’m pretty sure and some of Western Europe and stuff
they do that with the iPhones exactly yeah there’s always someone in New
Zealand in line first yeah and since like I’m just reading our
title you say they are glasses and Apple car rumors do you think there’s any
tie-in between classes and cars that’s that’s part of that was part of close
report about what they could add and value to making a car although they
could do that if they just made the cars electronics then and systems for other
car makers to is that there’s this assumption and I think Elon Musk
mentioned for their new upcoming roadster the one
that the roadster is coming in a couple years that they’re gonna have an a on or
thing where if you wear a hourglasses while you’re driving it can superimpose
impose a lot of very useful information in your vision where you don’t have to
take your eyes off the road you know set up with the world around you blind spots
yeah yeah blind spots like the edges of the road at night all kinds of briars
your speed you know everything else that screams other stuff instead of ever
having to look down at the screen you can get more information literally
integrated into the world around you then you never have to take your eyes
off the road so there’s this idea that augmented reality is going to really
enhance driving and Apple could do that Tesla wants to do that in their new
roadster it’s you’re gonna see racecar drivers doing it for right time yeah
it’s gonna end up in Formula one in no time that probably might even be the
first implementation it usually is that’s usually where they start the kind
of stuff as long as it passes some regulation right next to probably is
built it and build it into their helmets helmets are already great right yeah
they’re gonna take some UI inspiration from force of horizons yeah fighter jets
and stuff do that stuff now yes that’s true like that the really expensive
fighter jets idea is to take that down to the car level yeah I don’t want to
have to wear glass I’m gonna want that I don’t want that to be the only way right
that’s the nobody wants to have to wear glasses while they drive but like for it
to be a cooler experience right especially people who already wear it
glasses right yeah then you many years in the future maybe 15 you know it could
be something where it’s actually part of the glass itself that’s way cooler yes
it’s also really weird to think that like we’re simultaneously making it so
you don’t drive and so that your driving experience is so much cooler right like
which one is it are you trying to not have me drive and not even like pay
attention the road or have a steering wheel or do you want me to be a fighter
pilot in my car yeah I still don’t really trust well of
course not they’re not good do you trust regular human drivers I don’t that’s
that the bar they have to beat is your average idiot on the road people driving
more than they like flying and I think it’s that idea of control yeah that even
though it’s more dangerous that you’re driving like that you know if you’re the
driver you feel you were doing it yes yeah and you know when you put something
else in your hands it’s like an airplane it’s like I’m so screwed yeah rationally
even though you’re not controlling all the other cars on the road yes
and Dustin much more danger yeah and everybody thinks they’re a good driver you’re next Paul are you a better than
average driver statistically I am it’s like just in terms of how many accidents
or whatever Brian yes I’ve never been in a car accident so I would say I’m an
excellent driver but practicality you were to sit with me
you’d probably be terrified yeah but maybe on the mile by mile basis who
knows where you where you stand sure yeah so Dan brought up a Paul and
we actually did a Paul on our site the other day asking about the Apple pencil
hmm and the question was would you use Apple pencil on your iPhone if you could
you got about we got over 1,700 votes you can actually still vote on its on
Twitter if you still want to vote but an overwhelming majority sixty-one percent
said no 39% said yes and the reason why we asked this question because there’s a
new rumor that came out about the new iPhone that the iPhone the 2018 iPhone
could possibly support the Apple pencil I know I’m just gonna interrupt you real
quick because I Lafe looks a little hurt by that poll as someone who loves it the Alpha looks
a little hurt do his thing and then I was just gonna say so if so the rumor is
that Apple is going to you know allow use for an Apple pencil I was just gonna
ask ya oled model so on the higher end I guess the follow-ups to the iPhone 10
yeah we we can oh we just had the thing last week of what are you gonna call it
yes so the higher-end models would support
pencil so what do you guys think if you were if you had the option to use a
pencil either the current pencil or a pencil a new pencil design to be more
portable I guess for the iPhone would you guys use use it okay so here’s the
thing yes I know because it’s a really big thing but you know I was playing
around with this today you know cuz I we were talking about that when I was not
looking at it the thing is and you probably seen me in a couple of my
videos I usually write on the iPad on in landscape mode and using a regular Apple
pencil it is actually kind of nice to do this and I could see that if I just keep
moving it up and it would work now I don’t think for portability and
everything the regular Apple pencil is going to do well they’re gonna have to
do something or are gonna have to make it smaller but you know the option to
use both would be great I don’t think this because you can’t use one you
shouldn’t be able to use the other and like all I can find is my Apple pencil
here here at you know my regular iPad a pencil but riding in landscape is
actually pretty comfortable you know I was doing it with a regular Apple pencil
and you know if you use like notability and you just keep scrolling it down I
could see myself doing that it’s actually and I can actually fit a lot in
here and Apple pencil actually has a better point you know obviously I’m not
writing with this but it’s yeah and I could I found I could get about 10 words
and one line just with my normal handwriting just on my 7 plus so you
know it’s it’s a bigger phone so yeah I voted no as well just because judging it
by the Apple pencil that exists you would I would never carry that thing
around with my phone it’s
it’s taller than you get won’t fit in your pocket yeah it sticks way out of
your pocket if you put it yeah you can’t put in your pants pocket then you know
they have to make one that’s maybe longer than a crayon but but small you
know that you could carry with you and put in your pocket and stuff also
hopefully with a finer tip with a higher you know and a really a little bit
better resolution on the digitizer on that yes phone because you’re gonna need
to be able to write smaller tinier things and you would on a big iPad if
they did those things maybe there’s not a lot in iOS outside of just sort of
writing notes by hand and versus typing right that really makes sense for the
pencil on a small device yeah you can do you can mark up images and stuff like
that but you can do that at them at that size that resolution you do that with
your finger kind of as well yeah so maybe the next iteration of iOS would
add more you know cool things you could do with your pencil on an iPhone but
right now I did that that bar just really isn’t cleared and as far as
writing it does need to be you like you were saying like a sharper point it
needs to feel more precise as I’ll actually love writing with the Apple
pencil but the thing is it feels like writing with a marker or and you know as
opposed to a really sharp pencil and a felt tip or something exactly yes so you
know on YouTube says YouTube we already have ten styluses on their hands styli
stylee yeah that was that was the Steve Jobs argument but then they wait and
made the Apple pencil yeah yeah and they’re great they’re they really are
especially on a large thing like that when you’re gonna draw when you’re gonna
mark up large images and and powerpoints and stuff like that really it is an
incredibly good experience on the iPad those things you can’t do easily with
your finger there are some solutions out there already and this is probably where
people would get to make fun of Apple users
but it’s like leather holders just for your Apple pencil where you can like you
know put on your waist yeah that makes us leave a leather sleep for the pencil
it’s just a sleeve it’s not even a holster or anything but it’s still de
Holt the pencil itself it’s just too long it’s just not to be of something
you carry with your phone it has to go in a bag or something now you know and
the thing is is you know it’s called the Apple pencil but you know they aimed it
a lot of artists and if that I risk the weight it feels like a brush and that
you know the the length is just right for that that balance and stuff I
actually like it for writing and and I I should say by the way I write by hand a
lot that’s the one of my confessions here how did you actually write some
giraffes by hand and so you know I actually do like the feel of it for a
long long term writing and stuff but I think most people just freeze it for
scribbling notes marking up photos and maps and stuff to send to people through
messages yeah yeah a lot of the comments were you know Ryan I’ve been tazed I’ve
just simply said no way well you know a lot of the comments were like now they
just wouldn’t wouldn’t use it yeah either you guys are Palm Pilot
users I always wanted one yeah I had a Palm Pilot also all sorry
you know I used to sign the thing that I like about the stylus is I actually like
typing with a stylus because I don’t know what it is with my fingers it’s not
like I have fat fingers but yeah often dexterity yeah I often can’t I often
like type this type a letter and sometimes like tapping exactly that
letter yeah and so there’s some there’s certain letters I want to say it’s like
W and E thank for some reason another I can’t get one or the other correct
I first try I’m always hitting the spacebar instead of like he or n the B
or n I somehow miss with my thumb and always get a spacebar and then the
autocomplete thinks it’s two words and it messes up a whole sentence and what
I’m trying to type a B so yeah there’s there’s things like that would be good
to have a stylus remember the palms alphabet that you had
to learn right for their handwriting recognition yeah because everything was
like one stroke without lifting the prior that’s right and once you once you
got it was so fast yeah and you just like I should just write like this all
the time yeah yeah so I mean but it doesn’t happen frequently enough where
I’m like I absolutely just need a stylus it happens once in a while and I get
over it I figured it out so yeah I wouldn’t I wouldn’t use it
I used the Google keyboard I use the swipe typing a lot of swipe typing it
it’s really good on the Google keyboard the only thing missing me up is when you
start to use a proper noun that like it won’t recognize as the wiping thing and
then then you’re like oh no it’s never gonna know that word I can I need it
switched typing it my brain doesn’t ahead of time go don’t even try no I
start trying to put some name of a video game or something that’s just like an a
weird word made-up word that’s what I should do more I should do more
experimentation with third party keyboards like the ghoulish yeah
keyboards great on iOS yeah I haven’t installed it but I always forget that
it’s there and I never switch to it so it’s like just laughter yeah I was is it
12 or even maybe even Leben ended this lets you use third-party keyboards in
more situations yeah yeah so you don’t like kicked back to the Apple keyboard
and then just like Microsoft have a one-handed keyboard wouldn’t surprise me
probably an accessibility thing maybe yeah the couple users on Twitter are
saying autocorrect is screwy oh yeah at the same time I never turned it off
because it is it’s just helpful enough to keep yeah this is an area where worse
where’s my fancy machine learning making all the correct awesome yeah it’s not
it’s to be way way back and I’ve been using the dictation more because you can
switch to instead of typing to just say that is something that iOS 12 does this
it makes the mic available on all the third-party
boards that was the issue with with the Google keyboard for me is every time I
wanted to use dictation I had to switch back or I could use the Google one which
swaps over to the Google app does Google’s voice recognition copies that
switches back and pastes it which is really Genki there voice recognition is
great but it but that’s a really now it now you can just hit the mic and bring
up this so question on this one so what like as far as a rumor goes where like
where does the stand like likeliness and you know the the source on this is not a
source that is it’s no mean there’s trim forced it’s not necessarily sourced from
like a whole lot of like they don’t have images of the displayed digitizer from
one of the suppliers or something like that and we’re in the we’re at the place
now where apples should be mass producing these exactly like in there
they’re making them there this thing is gonna launch in like less than a month
a month yeah we’re weird with three weeks out from the announcement mm-hmm
right and then if it’s the second September and I mean the second Tuesday
in September like it always is and then it’ll the first ones will go on sale
probably late September yeah maybe October so and to have like 10 20
million of them ready to count on the first day they have to manufacture
months ahead of time so they’re they’re cranking them out now and usually these
kinds of now the kind of rumors that we’re looking for are the we have a
picture of the part there’s somebody snuck out a picture of the motherboard
or whatever so I give this one kind of like a 30 percent change one other rumor
that came out at the same time as I think trend force also predicted or
put out is that there’s going to be a 512 gigabyte model yeah of the of the
iPhone of the Oh le di phone yep that makes their capacity the flash suppliers
have kicked out higher capacity chips in the meantime and it makes sense I just
wonder what the price point of that particular yeah is it gonna be an
additional 1500 right or is it the same price point is that 250 are gonna be 64
256 512 or are we just like would be it’d be awesome if the the cheapest OLED
ones that the entry-level OLED ones were 256 that would be amazing
how about 128 and 512 yeah that could be it I’d be I’d be down with that 128 is
just like the bottom line for the OLED be enough for me 64 is enough for me I
got the 256 cuz I could get it oh yeah I would get the 512 because I would I want
to shoot more more 4k video that’s the only thing that holds me back whenever I
want to shoot a video in 4k se I don’t know if I have enough storage you shoot
a lot of 4k no but you know I mean because eventually you know you know I
should always shoot our family videos yeah my kids are older 4k is going to be
the the standard yeah yeah so I want to shoot it at 14 now but you can only hold
so many 4k you know I don’t 64 or the one to 256 I’m a 256 okay fine need more
than that it’s always shoot more and you never use all the video that you’re
gonna use yeah that’s that’s the thing that I’m I’m also gonna say like if
you’re keeping it on your phone all that footage no I’m not and and there and the
whole point is you’re saving it for when they’re older then it’s like you lose
that phone goodbye so like no one should be keeping all
their video like that on their phone no it’s not on my phone all the time I do
export it out and I do edit the video so but you know
video need a lot of iCloud storage there and as we’ve learned from the past is
that Roman also prints out also I want it’s a view also print out or print out
Franco from yeah flip books VHS I do to reverse I take my digital videos and I
put it onto film yeah so I put a camera on a stand in front of the monitor yeah
and I have it shoot yes but yeah I’m totally for the photo give me a terabyte so that’s coming you
know everything the bar gets bar gets low I don’t know if that’s the right
height gets higher yeah so yeah I’ll come eventually so the other reason why
I want so much storage is because I want to be able to save my group FaceTime
videos on my phone okay if you’re saving those it’s not like California is a
two-party notice that you know what I used when I was a freelancer I used to
use that for transcription and you know you could only do it in person you know
like you record it and stuff like this but now I’ve noticed that a couple of
apps actually allow you to record phone calls on the iPhone and know that you
should not be possible that used to be like one of the reasons I but Reve now
has one that lets you record phone calls and so I was actually wondering if
something has changed and does it just kick on screen recording that’s a good
question I think it actually records to call it so I had to just set the audio
so that’s awesome yes yeah you should you should know that
do you have to get people’s permission to do that in some states yes I mean I
might play an article yeah there’s there’s been apps that do
that on Android and stuff and some of a lot of the free ones beep unless they
let it’s like a beep every ten seconds unless you pay and that’s the
worst thing yes I guess they’re just trying to let you try it out before you
like subscribe or something it’d be funnier if there was like a like a audio
mark it’s like audio jungle record them cuz they’re not coming right so the
original reason why I brought up group FaceTime is because it was taken it was
removed from the most current betas as iOS and and Mojave so when they’re not
gonna be available at during the release later this month or later in September
probably in September they will be Apple’s terminology is later this year
yes later this year so it has no it’s been four rocky anyway so it’s kind of
good because it’s not been in release shape no I I didn’t test out group
FaceTime did you guys try it out I tried it with two with just two other people
so a third person thing several betas ago yeah the word I’ve seen from reading
for people this hasn’t really gotten much better but it’s a little iffy on
connection it’s a little iffy on updating the video from people I don’t
like the interface I don’t think they’re gonna fix the interface I don’t think
they think it’s wrong but but yeah the way that people kind of just grow or
shrink there’s it’s not a clear way to yeah just divide it this good forget 32
people that’s that just give me like four and divide it and just do the Brady
Bunch thing yes yeah because that seems like it would create more overhead than
necessary to me but I don’t know anything about well scaling a video is
not a thing these days but you waste a lot of negative space like whatever it’s
anyway it’s coming later this year so you’ll have to continue using Skype
for you for that whole version of iOS it got pulled from my hobby too but that
beta version of iOS which released this Monday for difference got yanked
immediately because it was a lot of users were saying really bad
performance problems like you would tap in tap and even take 30 seconds to like
really bad and then within an hour to Apple yanked it and pulled it from the
download page pulled the over-the-air update and just as we were getting in
here and getting set up I read that they dropped a new release the beta I don’t
know if it’s the same if it’s technically still beta seven off to look
at the download page yeah or if they call it they’re calling it beta eight
but alright there’s a fixed version out so there’s a new version of iOS 12 beta
available so if you guys are using it you might want to check and see if that
update is available to you guys in group based time we’ll go wasn’t there well it
wasn’t there were a thing about like they cancelled one of the updates
because it was like slowing down people’s though were you reading the
thing hopefully this is the last thing they killed because they bumped back a
lot of stuff in iOS 11 they bumped back Apple pay cash yeah they bump back
airplay to airplay to they bump back the iMessages for business runs and what was
the other there’s a fourth thing they kicked back after they added some
animals later update just but those were extras but yet so there were several
major features airplay 2 was the one we waited on forever yes yes that never
made Alice lemons release and now everybody’s like features from iOS 12 or
hopefully this is the last one cuz they’re getting down to the wire
yes and real quick on YouTube shambles was asking about which iOS apps record
phone calls without a monthly subscription do you know give any idea
no I have an exigent you know cuz I don’t I don’t need to do it that often
anymore these days I just use a Mac and I use QuickTime honestly because you
know I can get calls to my Mac um so I don’t use it on my phone but you know I
got this I get the email and I and I tried it out you know for Rev yeah
that worked ok Rev lets you do this stuff free but it’s it’s mainly it’s
mainly known as a transcription service so you know you have the Handy audio
recording and you send it off to like a freelancer and they they do it uh you
know for a like you know a dollar a minute or something like that that’s our
Evie yes our yeah sorry V rev.com
I’ll put a link in the show notes about recording an easy transcript if they
record your phone calls now that’s really awesome and I you just don’t send
it off he’s like thanks no I mean there’s an API built into was it I was
10 or 11 I think with all the betas my brains gotten frazzled but they add an
API for screen recording I think that was 11 yeah and then developers can use
it to kick off like full screen recordings like twitch and stuff and you
can build you can do the control center and hit it and it just records your
entire display all the sounds your thing makes you can turn on the mic if you
want so maybe that API lets them do a recording without video and just the
sounds your phone makes and the sound your thing and they’re using that to
record calls that would be cool yeah I mean I could see grouped I’m also just
implementing that and then having a visual notification that you’re being
recorded this way they just kind of cover everyone yeah yeah and on one last
note for today today is the 20th anniversary of the release of the iMac
mm-hmm yeah just one small don’t we want to say happy birthday we we covered it a
lot a few months ago yeah I remember there was this crazy explosion of stuff
about that I might do three so yeah there was the reveal actually happened
earlier in the year in 1998 so this is when they went on sale yeah so they went
on sale on August 15th 1998 but they were revealed at Macworld Expo March my
Marine doesn’t go back I think there was more 20 years gift 1998 yeah yeah that
sounds right yeah so yeah do we still have one announced I’d be I’d wonder a
couple of things one is what is the latest OS you can put on it what was
the last like you know and then also like if you were to if you were actually
able to benchmark it what what how does a get where you would probably well no I
was gonna you can’t run any current right even I mean they’ve all switched
to only Intel processors for years I was thinking you could probably do some web
benchmarks but you probably even have to look for older web benchmarks because
the versions of web browsers that will run on that OS probably don’t support
the latest JavaScript stuff right so even web benchmarks is probably some old
stuff most I’m saying is there was a YouTube channel forgive me guys I forget
what your name was but yeah where they got an an open one and you know they
poured it in its go oh that was mkbhd and I just called and I just ended a
collaboration with her on opened and an unopened box of final regional or the
one I was looking at was a g3 yeah macbook g3 and were fired it up it
was awesome and of course it worked the one I was watching oh is it iMac this
the one I saw was a the old MacBook the old clamshell weird yeah was in a
compact yeah it was Bondi blue it looked like a compact where did get an unopened
or I don’t know I don’t know somebody a warehouse that never I think sounds on
Twitter Peregrine says oh dear I feel old I’m gonna ask you guys what is the
greatest map of all time each of you that’s are gonna go with you put you on
the first spot Roman is you’re on the left oh I have to get I have to say it’s
the Macintosh I’ll say the Macintosh to that’s this forcible cutting se it was
my first Macintosh it was the one it’s the reason why I’m here yes is that you
you were born because I gotta back in time parents were that
into it so in high school yeah in high school we got a Macintosh se to lay out
the school newspaper and that’s when I was like this is that this is what I’m
gonna be doing something about this computer I thought I was gonna be a
coder so I have did you guys have a laser writer
yeah the transformative thing yeah we had a laser writer we had the same thing
in high school my mom had the Makah see but she brought home the seven trillion
pound lighter and we use it to produce like fanzines yeah we used to do this
school newspaper our day and we had a thing called a thunder scanner yeah what
she was what you if you had an image writer
you would replace the cartridge on the image writer with a scanner and it would
scan and see my mom school got the the one that your hand thing you had to drag
it down how you would do is use a ruler cuz it’s easy to drink it and it would
script yeah but that was that you could even do that at home was crazy yeah it
was bonkers but but honestly I was team Apple two Gs then Apple 2d s was way
better than the original Mac yeah every way I’m sorry Mac fans that that should
have won I had a better interface better sound graphics is more expandable bigger
screen like everything about it was better and it lost and I’m still salty
about that so team TDS all the way yeah so for me SC so for you is it is it two
Gs or well so best Mac so for me best Apple computer outside of the original
Apple 2 which I brought brought computers into people’s homes as not a
business thing yeah then then yeah 2 GS was my favorite but as far as a Mac I I
was never a fan of that black and white Mac I see I thought the I thought the
the goofy colors aside the new iMac was the one that really
changed everything that they put everything in the this one box that you
needed I hated the stupid ads about how there’s no step three and all that but
really putting the modem and everything else in there the speaker’s they had
were really good for the time that display was good so much of that was a
really great computer yeah as far as the most the best memories I have of an
Apple computer would be the Apple 2e that was what I learned how to do some
rudimentary code on and playing and stuff but yeah the best memories for me
would be the Apple 2e yeah I also Mac though yeah I know as far as far as the
you know like seeing it in the house it’s like using it and so I have to
admit it probably the g3 and that you know that because it you know especially
at the space where we were living at that was the first Mac that I bought
outright by the way and because it was the one that I really felt like it it
added something to the place and everything like that and that was enough
to buy it one at that point so it’s so old but yes so that was that I also have
a fondness for that 2f facts which was at the time I think they called it as
Steve Jobs called it wicked fast because it had a Motorola Oh 40 processor in it
state over 4000 1604 TS yeah the 60 hundred of the 16 of 20 and it
had can’t remember how many new bus slots it had like I don’t remember but
yeah that because there was for me there was at that time there was a huge jump
in speed of the tooth and the thing was the two effects was like a box like I
remember maybe it was like 16 inches long yeah it was a long a big box but I
had one and it was it was glorious dan do you have a favorite Mac yeah I mean I
guess I think it I’m not that much younger than you guys but maybe I am
you’re that much younger than me in Roman time yeah as a kid we had you know
old apples and Max and and even like the clones
but for me I think it’s gonna be the Mac Pro cheese grater because I think for me
when I went into college that’s when it came out and all video production was
like yes when I was getting into video and doing stuff
it was the Mac Pro everyone there was you know no one was adding on laptops
yet it was just an act Pro and that was the tool you used that big silver cheese
grater I have one of my desk so and it lasted so many years yeah that is
adorable and you still got one in the other
studio don’t you know that thing tripped power supplies it was great so much
wattage and and people who were right on the edge with a 15 amp circuit circuit
with that thing all the time it was fast but it was not efficient
hence the crazy cooling system cooling system our separate air duct areas and
stuff that was of a really cool design it looked good good when you opened it
up it was really sadly cooled and everything that’s quiet I mean they did
a lot of cool stuff with that there’s a reason people still to this day go try
to find that in case you’re like mod in pcs and stuff into that case yeah it’s
heavy as hell though it is a huge hunk of aluminum it’s really wasteful yeah
well that’s just about that just about does it for this week’s episode of the
Macworld podcast like to thank Jason and life hey I’d like to thank Dan our
producer Thank You Ellen I’d like to thank you the audience for participating
join us next week Wednesdays at 10:00 a.m. Pacific will plus the topics on our
website and we’ll post a poll and everything to let you guys know what
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