You showed me that Dennis prager video–
Which one was that? It was an argument about israel where he was talking about why Israel deserves to exist and stuff after being there man Holy shit. I feel like People have no idea that I didn’t even know what the hell was going on until I went to Palestine and saw how crazy it was but — What is it like?
, tell me give me your thoughts in here, so everyone Mistakenly thinks that hamas like controls palestine that not true at all There’s there’s three different areas that were drawn up with the original partition. It’s the West Bank which is Totally under military Rule by Israel, and then there’s the gaza strip Which is like the open Air prison Which they bombed the shit out of like every couple of years in hamas controls that area and then there’s Jerusalem Which is an International City center, um, that both Arabs and Jews live in but the West bank has been occupied militarily since 1967 and it’s complete martial law, there’s checkpoints, All political parties are illegal you can’t — having a gun is like the least of it You can’t hold a flag, you can’t belong to a political party, you literally can’t do shit if you’re a palestinian You just have to sit there and submit, um And if even if you share a photo of someone who was like killed by an ISraeli soldier You go to jail, and you go to jail for the amount of like months that —
What? Yeah, based on the shares and likes of the photo They’ll penalize you more and put you in prison for longer and longer. I mean I’ll, I’ll just tell you one story what if you put a photo on social media for someone who died and they’ll be like you’re sharing a martyr and inciting people to like Commit Suicide like on behalf of palestinians you go to jail and they put them in jail There’s ninety nine point seven percent conviction rate kids are tortured kids are in prison It is absolutely insane we went to the first day that we were there We went to a funeral of some guys some farmer who was shot by israeli forces and we went to the funerals, horrible, you know all the women are wailing and crying and as We’re leaving the israeli Forces had set up a checkpoint, right outside of this dudes house and started tear gassing and shooting rubber bullets like at People who were simply attending the funeral just to punish people for attending the funeral We went to another girl’s house named Aya. Who’s who got shot in the vagina for Peacefully protesting at some protest and they shot two – They sho- they shot 200 people that day one guy next to her died another guy was paralyzed They have a policy called “shoot to cripple” where they shoot guys in the dicks (joe rogan sharply inhales)
Yeah- oh, it is fucking nuts man. The West bank is no joke. I thought that I was going to die several times We’re at this checkpoint going through qalandia, and there was this old man Walking like clearly drunk or something and kind of like walking a little bit toward the check, but they started shooting at him Bullets are ricocheting off the thing and I– you know my partner Mike who is An invading soldier of Iraq was just like, we’re going to die like they’re shooting this guy there’s bullets ricocheting is Absolutely insane and as we go through the checkpoint the soldiers like hey stay safe out there Yeah, when you guys are arbitrarily shooting people and and the person who was driving us had just told us that a couple months prior to that Some woman palestinian woman because you can’t go to Jerusalem like if you’re palestinian There’s like barely any palestinians or even allowed to go pray at the most holy site the dome of the rock in Jerusalem You can’t go to the beach You’re just completely constricted in a prison and
you can’t travel and and he was just telling us that months before we went through this checkpoint someone was going through the checkpoint because They got a permit to go into Jerusalem which is like a lifetime golden ticket like Willy wonka and They’re walking and they get and she just got executed and then what yeah She just got executed and she was bleeding out at this checkpoint and her little brother tried to help her and they shot him too and they’re like hiding the video of The one simply because they fucking hate palestinians and palestinians are animals to these people. It’s sick man. It’s sick It’s really really sick Joe and I I couldn’t even get into Gaza We were banned from going into this territory because I was told by the israeli government that I was a propagandist and that I was like an enemy agent, and so I wasn’t allowed to go into Gaza, so Gaza is hell, but the west bank is in under martial law and everything’s illegal And you can’t do a goddamn thing and it’s super cool like we went to this place called ramola That was just like oakland where they’re smoking weed There’s like Openly gay people there like it’s just completely different than what people think of Palestine you know People think of it as just a bunch of people with Turbans on blown so and hamas is like you know you elect to have Us and like well hamas doesn’t want us really exist it’s like well actually hamas is controlling this one area for a reason because it was built as this surplus when Israel was created millions of refugees were put miles away from the homes that they were ethnically cleansed from and put into refugee camps in Gaza and When the israeli military wanted more and more land By the way all settlements in Israel are illegal all of them are illegal in the West bank But they just keep creating more and more and more and we would go to these Villages Of just arab people living in these villages and the settlers will come you have to be a fanatical fucking asshole to move from California To an Arab Village in palestine and set up a goddamn Tractor trailer and just live on top of their home and they can have them and you know Giant machine guns they can firebomb you they can shoot you they can beat you up They’re protected by the state you can go with a tractor trailer set up a home The state immediately runs a water line a power line and a military outpost to protect you and the arabs are just sitting there waiting To get killed or attacked It’s absolutely insane and the way home demolitions work are insane, too Because like they either deliver a piece of paper with a rock over it, and they’re like here if you find it Good for you, and if you don’t then you’re screwed, and that’s if you’re lucky if you’re not lucky you’ll just your home will be invaded by settlers and You’ll be forced out of your home There’s videos of this all over the internet of like groups of settlers going and literally taking over arabs homes And then I just are forced out it’s crazy man It’s it’s completely way crazier than I ever could have imagined. How long were you over there for a month, whoa. Yeah Yeah, and we were you know we were simply and people want to Khwab about like Oh, it’s not apartheid there are different fucking license plates for arabs and jews like you cannot go to areas like Israeli Soldiers were Arbitrarily set up checkpoints and just shut you out of your neighborhood and force you to walk three miles to your home like they can do whatever they want because you are under martial law and You can’t you have no mobility like you have no freedom so it’s really it’s really bad And we just did a whole series on the empire files talking about How israel was created up until today? And we go over like the settlements the demolitions The jail and and why I think there’s no hope from with an iSraeli society to change Because it’s becoming a more theocratic state and a more fascist state as it Grows because you have to be to maintain this Jewish supremacist state you have to be like more? Fascist and more controlling and more militaristic and in the way that you Rule Society just like the us I mean people who are considered outlier fringe assholes 30 years ago are now like the Christian evangelicals are now in power It’s really really crazy I mean, it’s not the same because israel is a white nationalist like Ethno supremacist state and you see the way that they treat ethiopians and African refugees, and it becomes obvious that even if you’re a jew, and you’re black, you still are a second-class citizen there Have you interviewed anybody that’s pro-Israel? Interview a lot of ISraelis, and what did you? interviewed a lot of ailee’s um it seems like a lot of Israelis well think about this in order to Really reject the notion like you it’s like rejecting being an American It’s like such a hard thing for people to really accept so there’s a huge mobilization within israel people who are Opposed to the military who talk openly about how awful the occupation is how brutal it is how they you know all the crimes They committed but you’ll very rarely find anti-zionists who will come out and say the notion of A Jewish state is wrong because then it means you’re just rejecting everything that you are like Who are you then if you’re an israeli, and you are not zionist. You know it’s like It’s just a really hard notion for you to wrap your mind around but we interviewed about 40 Israelis man on the streets and and To be leftist as a slur so like a lot of ISraelis don’t even entertain the notion of oh Maybe there shouldn’t be an occupation at all. They’re all just like okay. Well. Maybe we should have a more humane Occupation maybe we should give them water Like maybe they should have their own water why I say an occupation occupation of Palestine or other things So the west the West bank has been militarily occupied for since 67 So when israel was created in 48 there were those three partition areas that I talked about and ever since that happened? Israel has just continued to take over more and more land in the West bank So these settlements just keep growing and growing and growing and growing And so you know over time there was like mass resistances that happen and then in 67 Israel was like We’re just going to do a large-scale Invasion and try to take over all the land and then they just stayed and occupied this area and they just have been there ever Since and so that’s like a huge international crime when the international community is like by the way, they said are illegal And we’re like condemning you at the un and the us just vetoes it every time because the u.s. Is just like boys with Israel unconditionally? It’s sick man, and they just signed that 10 billion dollar aid package Giving it to israel for the next 10 years Actually that was 30 billion dollars over the next ten years which is crazy because this would never be able to happen if it weren’t Just completely supported by the us and why is it supported by the us. I don’t know I think that the u.s. Loves using israel as a military Garrison. They love using that strategic point in the Middle East to have and also Someone was shedding some light this israeli soldier that I interviewed who was amazing His name is Erina Franti and He was telling me that the military aid package that we just signed with israel it may look like just a gift to Israel We’re like here’s thirty billion dollars, but he said really what it was doing Israel has been like its own arms. Dealer. It actually is one of a number number-one weapons dealers in the world now It actually did like this huge deal with India and so the u.s. Felt threatened right because we’re the military might and so we kind of locked in israel with this giant packet And we’re like you have to buy us armaments Through this like so if you accept a thirty billion dollar aid deal you have to go through our military Like weapons to buy and if you want this money, so that’s what this guy was saying. He said it’s actually a gift to us That were locking down like our control Over this country, but honestly, it’s becoming so unpopular Obama had a big feud with Netanyahu I mean trump is discussing because Jared Kushner’s personally invested in illegal settlements And he liked his boys with Netanyahu’s felted financial Yeah, the kushner foundation like his family’s actual foundation has funded illegal settlements but if you fund some charity in gaza, you will go to jail for supporting terrorism, but you can go fund illegal settlements and Sponsor Settlers to go and live on top of Arab Villages, and that’s fine. I guess that’s freedom Do you think most people just aren’t aware? Yes? I didn’t even know I had no idea how crazy Oh, you’ve been pretty vile in pro-Palestinian for a while I remember you had a piece that you were criticized about on your show, were you? You were furious about oh my God Yeah, and people are just it’s so confusing and calm on purpose because that it really relies on Israel being the Victim and for people not really understanding that palestinians are not all terrorists and that it’s really just a case of being occupied and like getting freedom so it’s It’s really tough man But a lot of Israelis wang you just want to push the palestine Seattle url say more do they want them to go They want to they don’t care as long as they’re gone As long as they’re gone, I mean here’s an example of how crazy it is El Rosario is a soldier now in the us when Police kill black people and we have Rallies like black lives matter people have rallies in support of these people who get killed in israel they have mass Rallies ten thousand twenty thousand people strong in tel AvIv if A soldier executes an unarmed palestinian man and gets a slap on the wrist like this guy, ela Ria Executed an unarmed Palestinian it was on video It’s a horrific video and because there was this international uproar about it Israel had to put him on house arrest He’s really going to put in my house for us and that was enough for like Mass mobilization of tens of thousands people to come out and protest The fact that he was getting even reprimanded a slap on the wrist I could house a video available early, and they’re chanting death to arabs There’s tens of thousands ago was to move look up Dan Cohen and David sheen They do amazing journalism there. They were living that David Sheen is Israeli He’s been there, and he documented these crazy rallies these fascist fucking rallies that no one else has shown and until I saw that Until I saw people chanting death to the videographers because they hate when you even film like what’s going on there? Death to the leftists it’s a really scary man. It’s just a completely different society here. It is hey Let’s play nuts. It’s a long videos if I look at this It is just there put two of them the Broski’s yeah Go forward to yeah like seeds. Just like crazy We are being criticized over the world as if they are righteous They kill for less than that United States with the worst hostage There you certifies us when you guys do this shit. Yeah, good point, not just from war police need us you blacks, and it’s okay Because the whole circus the world per se that israeli army are really murderers We gave them an official license to call us murderers Instead of covering it up and dealing with it ourselves Why make so much noise? Whoa that she’s pro covering it up once a soldier understands that he can be charged with Manslaughter Next time you’ll think twice and that hesitation is likely to cost soldiers Rally Partisan wow this is oh here We got our brother, Lr So everyone’s cheering on the fist soldier We’re starting you’re now sitting in an open jail an army base in the center of the country watching TV Look around Al or the Jewish people support you The Jewish people are with you And rain is about to say Jewish people do not Abandon their soldiers about to chant death there in the past present or the future Whoa, you are not alone. Yes, isn’t it hands. This is a legend hero They’re mad L or the hero. They’re all taught Summary execution is like an institutionalized thing so they’re all like why the hell is this guy getting? Persecuted for something that everyone just acknowledges that this is so the soldiers have to be able in their eyes So just have to be able to just exercise out there any time they want go to that Go to that huge Rally at the end. So I really do you think that they feel like? Trapped and Surrounded and that they make this justification because they feel like there’s arab states all around that gum account. They have a fucking concert I’m sorry, I know that guys wearing adidas Dope the help of God no israeli shoulders would return home peaceably In the hope of God all terrorists will be neutralized go to that part. Yeah, go to Eric flowers in the gun barrel Israeli down there. Yeah, where it shows that Thank you for coming. Good night, and tall the respect yeah, you’re the part in this video people should watch it Where it says yeah? I will slip the country over free the boy death to arabs where does it stuff that report? coming So how these guys get away with selling this a lower the gang of Israel lives Yeah, it’s really It’s very intense I mean yeah of Course Israelis are Indoctrinated I don’t know it’s a 10-minute video, but it’s part of a when the giant Rallies We have it in our videos to on on mMm. Oh yeah It’s really wild we didn’t want to vote ultra right square has full squares full oguz He’s saying that the establishment makes it seem like an arab is a Sunnah before a Jewish soul whoa Yeah, he’s like a very anything. They don’t want this on films. Well came to embrace and love the army and the soldiers Whoa tranching the football club yes anybody here dying like no no this isn’t about killing arabs We’re about celebrating the army anyway. There’s some really crazy stuff like my friend David without terrible music. Oh, God Fucking sick of waiting for peace. I will no longer dream about it until I die Together with his holy crowd, I utter a prayer Jesus Christ like we would go into Jerusalem and tel aviv in people be like oh you ad and I’m like what like they just Immediately just have this Distrust and hatred for arabs. It’s extremely intense and like you were saying I mean this is the thing that starts from childhood You are indoctrinated to think that every single person is Trying to kill you so all these people are these guys that film this they’re going to fuck now They they’ve been jumped my friend David sheen was jump because someone came out to me. He’s like Where’s your fucking flag because you like? We’re israeli flags Escapes a lot of these people like we’re then it’s extremely fascist and he was just like my flag and they’re like Yeah, where’s your fucking flag and they beat him up well took his camera, and this just happens all the time I mean they they luckily he’s an Israeli jew so he doesn’t get that much heat but my friend Dan is also You know looks like it He is a jew so they don’t really give him heat but like yeah, it’s really dangerous to film there And it’s really dangerous to document. What’s going on. They must be particularly furious about israeli jews that expose this stuff Oh, yeah, they’re definitely shredded right? Yeah, it’s dangerous for them to be in the country for sure That’s that that really ruthless Patriotism right that what that woman was saying that soldiers might hesitate if they could be charged with Manslaughter You know just just move yeah, it’s pretty intense so I feel like Yeah, but the whole israel thing and people are confused about like Danone And this anti-semitism thing look you can you can hate Jews and love israel. Just like Richard Spencer There’s a perfect example Richard Spencer’s sees israel as the perfect example of what he wants the u.s. To be Because it’s a you know Ethno supremacist nationalist state and that’s what these people love so you can be anti-semitic and still love the notion of Fostering like a certain group. You know a certain identity So does does he think we should have mandatory military service when they do well? He definitely doesn’t want different races breeding. So I think that he probably just wants like an insular society of all just like white people Jesus Christ nazism right when you get a bunch of people and everybody has to join the army you very go serving there’s a bond that they have it’s very different than a regular civilian Bond and The like the indoctrination that you get once you’ve been in the military And you’ve fought side by side with your brothers and sisters in arms, so till a totally different feeling You know I know I know a lot of people have been in the military and some of them got deeper in it than others and Like those people like it’s almost like an uS-versus-them Their society that they’re you know it’s that whole Chris Kyle sheepdogs thing right? You know like there’s they’re protecting us But they together as a group are much tighter Than any other group in the united states like mean there’s there’s division in all groups, right? but I got to imagine that the Bond that they have as Israelis all of them have been been in the military all of them living in this one small area surrounded by Arab States It’s got to be super intense They should have created israel not in God damn middle of the middle East But in fucking Australia like what what would the hell were they thinking I? Don’t know Nothin about the history of that region. That was I mean sykes-Picot western you know Empires, basically just drew a line through the middle east and divided all these countries and formed all these borders back like 120 years ago. I don’t know like nineteen one was sex picot I don’t know somewhere around that time so anyway fast forward to when the ottoman empire was colonizing this area and The British were occupying what is palestine right and the zionist Lobby was really strong? this is well before the holocaust and they were super super strong and embolden and they were negotiating with the with the brits about where they can form like a Jewish state and and there really was no support until The holocaust where they were able to sell like you know the fear more and there was even false flag attacks. We’re Scientists organizations were going around different arab countries and committing terrorism and then saying like alright like the jews need to come and Escape that you guys are being persecuted like they would actually carry out terrorism it like synagogues and stuff and this is all documented yeah But the ethnic cleansing that went on I mean it’s horrific. There’s dozens of massacres that happen in the formation of Israel Because even though it was partitioned initially by the un. I don’t know who Who gave like this international body the authority to partition a country on top of another country but on top of that? There was several massacres that just continued to take more and more of the land as I said and since And that was called the knock button so all these people were expelled violently and purged from their land And we visited some of these refugee camps and that people were just like we literally our houses are like five miles away And we’re just stuck in these camps and we’ve been here for 50 years Yeah, it’s sick, and they have and they they have like no water They just have one water tank every month and israeli soldiers will go and spray skunk spray. Which is like a military manufactured Disgusting toxic tasting spray that sound that’s like taste like sewage water And they’ll just go like target these water tanks, and then your water will be fuck for the whole month There’s just little things like this just to make people’s lives a living hell Now did you film when you over there? Yeah? We have tons of we had a hundred eyes We have what we have four episodes out where we you know I go to anti-refugee Rallies And I’m talking to people who are telling me that these people are subhuman Infiltrators who need to be executed and rounded up and put in chains It’s all in film. I mean, it’s it’s it’s really Crazy, and I do really don’t understand How bad it is and why it’s so dangerous, and how really it’s been the crux of so many problems in the world especially in that region like what we’ve done just to create this settler colonial state in the middle of the middle East and Expel all these people violently and then just unconditionally support Israel. No matter. What war crimes? they commit no matter who they bomb no matter who they kill it’s sick and people don’t respect us for doing that and and it’s super hypocritical when we’re Engaging in military operations in the name of fucking morality and humanitarianism. Why do you think they openly support is your other way they do? It’s fun an additional day like why do we support Saudi, Arabia -? Yeah, but Saudi Arabia has oil we show some Logic didn’t connect dots. They’re really simple. I don’t believe the whole like zionist Lobby controls the us I think that it’s a partnership. I think that the u.s. Sees a lot of Leverage having Israel there But I think it’s becoming more unpopular where it’s almost becoming a liability because the rest of the world is increasingly realizing How fucked up the situation is and trying to Boycott like the state you know and and the u.s. Is it’s not going to be a popular thing like even when Obama was leaving office. He did that kind of cursory like Superficial thing were they for the first time didn’t veto israel or didn’t vetoed like the condemnation of Israeli settlements And so that was like we didn’t not do it But we just like didn’t veto it for the first time in a long time And that was like a huge slap in the face to israel even though it was like nothing, but just a symbolic empty gesture but that was kind of Obama’s like fuck you as I was leaving, but I really didn’t do anything, but it just It shows you that there’s a lot of divisions I think from the inside and I think the government is realizing like it might not be worth it if the pressure continues to mount I mean we need to put pressure on our government to stop this occupation because it’s completely inhumane and Disgraceful so you said you have four episodes of this that are out right? Yeah, four episodes, then we’re putting more out We’re putting the episode with all the interviews with Israelis next to where commission’s on Empire files on our on our show on YouTube So well is it just that’s the name of the channel. Yes So Empire files is the name of the channel and then if you go to the Empire files TV WE have all of our archive on there …