7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

Ben shapiro is one of the most famous and skilled political debaters out there and even if you’re not into politics his arguments are fun to watch. In this video I want to explore why Ben is so talented in debates. Specifically, I’m gonna give you seven techniques that you can use no matter what side of an argument you represent, even if you’re on the wrong side Three caveats before we begin: First, I am NOT saying that Ben is right or wrong on any of these points. What I’m gonna discuss are some of the rhetorical devices he employs that can be persuasive even if they aren’t always logically foolproof. No matter where you fall in these issues, there’s a lot to be learned from Ben’s style of debate. Second, you probably don’t want to focus on debating in your interpersonal relationships because the goal of debate is quite different than the goal of most relationships. -or you’re debating somebody on a stage in which case your goal is basically to humiliate that person as badly as possible. And third, Ben obviously does quite a bit of research which is really tough to combat without figures of your own. -If you’re, if you’re richer you tend to be married longer on average people who are poor tend to get divorce Where did you get that, um, statistic? -Census Bureau Now, research is necessary but I’m more interested in the tactical side of the debate rather than the prep so I won’t go any further into it. Let’s begin then with Ben’s defensive debate tactics starting with catching non- arguments and that’s because not everything that sounds persuasive actually constitutes a valid argument. For instance, when you hear that nine out of ten fill-in-the-blanks believe something that doesn’t necessarily prove a point. That is an argument from authority and, though it might be compelling, more evidence is required to be deemed conclusive. So when people lean on authority in arguments, Ben knows to call them out on it, like in this example: We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons. That was Ronald Reagan. -Okay, so now I can disagree with Ronald Reagan. You keep front of the great right-wing presidents of modern times agreed with me -So? Another common debate tactic that maybe isn’t done on purpose and doesn’t constitute a valid argument is getting emotional, particularly when the other person gets upset or offended. Now when Piers Morgan did that, Ben wisely didn’t engage him because simply being offended doesn’t prove anything. How dare you accuse me of standing on the graves of the children that died there, how dare you. -I’ve seen you do it repeatedly, Piers. Like I say, how dare you -Well, I mean, you can keep saying that but you’ve done it repeatedly. What you do, and I’ve seen you do it on the program. The late Christopher Hitchens put this same idea rather bluntly: If someone tells me that I’ve hurt their feelings, I say: well, I’m still waiting to hear what your point is. Now you don’t necessarily need to be that abrupt, but pointing out that a point needs something beyond simple emotion in order to make it valid can make other debaters flustered and from there you can segue into the third defensive tactic that we are covering in this video, which is pushing for specifics. People often hold very broad opinions, very strongly, without necessarily being able to articulate what they mean concretely, and of course this happens on all sides of the political spectrum. So when Ben is grappling with a very broad, spanning charge, he takes the necessary first step of pushing that other person to provide specific examples. -I know what the Republican beliefs are I mean, you’re a young guy, but you certainly remember two years back when their beliefs were completely the opposite of what they are now. -But which ones, which ones? -Free trade. This is absolutely critical do not get wrapped up in defending generalized statements even if you don’t like them, because if any sort of blanket label is asserted against your position or it’s large institutions that are being branded one way or another, if you try to defend against that single phrase you are already buying into an argument You don’t understand and that would be absurd So instead, push the other person to relate exactly what they mean specifically, like in this example: We’ve been talking about. When you say institutional racism, it’s too broad. You at least have to name me the institution. Which one is the racist one? Which institution is racist? Tell me what you –like — so we can fight it– seriously– so we can fight it together Just– I want to be on your side. I do. I want to fight racists. I think race again I think racism is — I think racist — racist behaviour is evil. I want to fight it with you, but I can’t fight it if you’re not if you’re not showing me what it is Similarly and lastly on the defensive side, Ben knows his arguments inside and out so he doesn’t get sucked into defending points that his argument doesn’t require. For instance, in this next clip Ben is talking about how Trump will say outrageous things, knowing that it sets the media ablaze and his point is that Trump knows what he’s doing and he does it on purpose in order to control the news cycle Now when Don Lemon responds saying the Trump shouldn’t be doing that, Ben doesn’t bother defending the morality of his actions. He’s only talking about the purpose of them. -says some things that are outrageous like people in the media aren’t patriotic, knowing that people in the media are immediately going to turn it up to 12 on the Richter scale. But Ben, don’t you think he should be truthful in his comments even if he’s even if he’s funny and if you give them any — shouldn’t he be truthful and he wasn’t. Of course and I think that this is where the media — here’s my advice to people in the media. Now recognizing that you can and should agree at points with the person that you’re debating seems obvious but it can be especially hard to do when people insult you a general rule of thumb is that if the other person winds up attacking you you were actually winning the debate. So Ben usually doesn’t get sucked into defending his own honor and he shows a great example of that here: Paul did a hit piece and in it writer Jane Coaston says you have hollow bravery, calls your campus speeches shadowboxing and if you wanted to be genuinely brave, you’d challenge quote: Some of the wrongheaded ideas held by your right-wing fans How do you respond to that? Number one: I’ve never really attributed bravery to myself I don’t think that it’s brave to walk on a campus and talk to kids, I think it’s brave to be a member of the military. I think it’s brave to be a cop I think it’s great to be a firefighter. I don’t think it’s brave for me to walk with a security team at my side onto a stage. If I thought that I was gonna get shot and murdered, then I probably wouldn’t do it. So I don’t consider myself part of that group anyway Then wisely doesn’t bother defending his own bravery and instead sticks to the points that he knows are strongest to his argument and that takes us to Ben’s Offensive Strategies. One of the big ways that I see him stump his opponents is through the use of snuck premises. Essentially, you introduce the exact point of contention as a given and that’s through the clever use of language. Now, this isn’t to pick on Ben because we all do this from time to time. So first off, see if you can find the snuck premise in this next case: -from planned parenthood. As you may have noticed, I’m mostly against abortion. If you wanna go to Planned Parenthood and get a contraceptive, go for it. I don’t care. I do care when you start killing babies. This is a problem for me. Again, a snug premise introduces a contended point as a given. So what counts as a snug premise shifts with each position of each person involved in a debate now in the context of the abortion debate: pro-choice versus pro-life, what is the snug premise that Ben just said? Here it would be the words: “kill babies”. This entire debate hinges on the personhood of the baby/fetus and using the word baby implies personhood. So with that word, Ben is able to sneak in a premise that most of his opponents would probably disagree with but he does it in a way that they don’t notice, so they are stuck, coming to the same conclusion that he does. Here’s another example, this time in a debate over the morality of socialism communism and other economic models: -income inequality in the United States is also quite high, right? There are people who are Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos and then there’s the the local checker at your grocery store. But if the local checker your grocery store is getting richer then it seems to me they have nothing particularly to complain about in how the economy is operating. They don’t have a right to Jeff Bezos’ money They don’t have a right to Bill Gates’ money any more than Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos has a right to their money. What is the snuck premise in this case? It would be the idea that it is their money. A socialist or a communist might see the money that an owner of the means of production has, aka another rich person, as being stolen, so it wouldn’t be their money in the minds of a socialist or a communist. But when Ben assumes the idea that it is their money, he makes a point that again his opponents might find disagreeable but they won’t really know where to poke the hole, because they adopted his premise as soon as he said it. Now in my experience, most debates are won or lost on snuck premises. In concealing the steps we take to arrive at our conclusions, we can get there without the other person knowing exactly how they disagree with us, but still being stuck. So if you want to win cheaply, without having your ideas challenged, this is an excellent tactic, that is, how you can win a debate even if you’re wrong. But to the degree that you can catch yourself, you’re usually better off avoiding this and it’s usually more insightful and better for the relationship to bolster the opposition side, as we discuss in our video on Jordan Peterson, which I will link to below. Again, not to pick on Ben, just pointing this out as an example. I’m going to leave this for now and move to another effective rhetorical tool that I see from Ben. It’s moving from the abstract to the concrete, and it looks like this: I think that focusing on poverty is a good thing to do. I think focusing on income inequality is not a good thing to do because there’s no correlation between income inequality and relative rates of poverty, right, there’s tremendous income inequality in a lot of places on Planet Earth, in fact in all places on Planet Earth. If you go to Sudan, there’s gonna be a rich warlord there and then there are gonna people living on six dollars a year. This works because the specific example seems to prove the broader point that preceded it, even though a single example cannot prove a rule. It is useful shorthand for persuasion and explanation. I do this all the time with the examples that I give you in these videos- it’s very very common. And when you add an element of humor to the specific piece that you are saying it makes it even more persuasive because people can be so wrapped up in laughing, that they don’t necessarily evaluate if they disagree with the point that you made. -The people who are currently acting in a criminal fashion in the drug war aren’t going to be out acting as model citizens, as a general rule. A lot of those people are going to be committing other crimes because this has been the history of the United States: when you make a substance illegal, the people who are criminals were criminals before and they’re criminals after. Al Capone was not going to turn into a banker after prohibition ended. And the final piece for this video, at least, is that you want to emphasize the conditions under which you would agree with your opponent. What evidence would you need? Now we previously saw Ben do this with regards to institutional racism in a previous clip: -racist behavior is evil. I want to fight it with you But I can’t fight it if you’re not if you’re not showing me what it is. Here he is talking about Trump’s impeachment and the Muller investigations: [Applause] Dude, I’m happy to wait for the Muller indictments if they come down and they target Trump. I’m happy to see him impeached but I need to see evidence. Where’s the evidence? just throw it in the trash. And if he throws it in the trash or quashes the Mueller investigation then yes impeachment should be on the table. Thank you Ben. When done in good faith, this is a really admirable way to build consensus and settle a debate, but since I said that this video was gonna have elements of how to win even if you’re wrong, this can also be used as a smokescreen to make your opponent lose sight of a more effective way to win an argument and instead focus on giving you the evidence that you asked for. By the way I am NOT saying that that is what Ben is doing here. I’m just saying that when you outline the conditions of what it would take for you to reverse your position, it can work as a diversionary tactic. So, there you have it, seven reasons that Ben Shapiro is so difficult to best in the debate and seven ways that you can win even if you’re wrong.

100 thoughts on “7 Reasons Ben Shapiro Is So Dominant In Debates

  1. He has the "Ni" in his voice and he talks loud and fast. He simply creates the illusion that he is right. People just do not want to listen to him.

  2. Quite like Ben—–but also liked watching him get it so wrong when Andrew Oneil kinda whooped his but——he needed more research on that one

  3. Truth in any debate is what matters. trapping and deceiving your audience shouldn't be any thing to be proud of. nothing against ben, just speaking in general.

  4. 1. Talk fast

    2. Talk really fast

    3. Bruh, you need to talk Sonic fast

    4. My wife is a doctor, btw

    5. I swear she's real, guys. She's just visiting her parents this week

    6. Okay, who stole my step-ladder? Come on, guys, I need to get something off the top shelf while my wife is away

    7. Please let me out of this locker

    (Bonus point). J U D E O – C H R I S T I A N V A L U E S

  5. 1) Interrupt people with fast talking.
    2) Rephrase their words in the most absurd way and answer to that absurd form.
    3) Debate with unskilled opponents.

  6. Ben's "snuck premise" doesn't care about your feelings? When someone states a fact that you don't like, it doesn't make that fact false.

  7. The Marxist leftwinger's non-arguments are based on feelings and emotions, fallacies of appeals to authority, broad generalizations, straw man arguments, lies ,deception and cheap sophistry which is the technique to pass the weakest argument or point of view using lies, fallacies and rethorical trickery against the truth or the better argument against it ; Ben is simply COUNTERING all that with. the TRUTH, reason and logic. something that leftwingers don't have the capacity to use or they wouldn't be leftwingers.

  8. He talks way over the speed limit. I would give him a ticket. Don’t listen because he doesn’t give you enough time to process what he just said with what he’s saying now. Listen to someone else.

  9. Most people he debates fall apart the second they get away from their scripted talking points. He is good at getting them away from their script

  10. I like to debate people on the man-made catastrophic global warming scam but most of the time it doesn't do any good because people are so brainwashed by the media and the elites no matter how much evidence you give them they never change their minds or admit they were wrong.

  11. Umm. How does everyone in this country NOT see that we are already run by globalists who FORCE U.S. citizens to pay for abortions, sanctuarycities, DACA, public schools (even if you don't have children), public parks, public libraries etc.. Not only that but the rich 1% corrupt lawmakers make loopholes so they don't have to pay taxes. American government freely gives billions of dollars to illegals, foreign countries for political favors and corporations & rich people! Don't forget that if you fail to pay (unconstitutional) property taxes, then the government will come and steal your home. Even if you're left homeless!!But the government refuses to forgive college loans for struggling legal law-abiding Americans! It refuses to help the hundreds of thousands of legal homeless U.S. citizens! Why? Because socialism & communism is bad.. Well, unless the rich and government says it's not.

  12. This is an embarrassing title to the video. The guy is no more a skilled debater than I am an astrophysicist. I’m no Andrew Neil fan but he asks Shapiro some hard but fair questions and the guy sulks and storms off.

  13. what Ben mostly do is stand on a stage with a microphone in control and debate students with less control of the circumstance or make videos about his political opinions and never respond to critic of those videos later on.

    He doesnt make it a fair fight and often falls apart in an even playing field against someone who has moderate deep knowledge and can defend there own subjects more concrete then the average college student. He also likes to use the motte and bailey strategy (making a controversial claim and defending it with an obvious truth without real connection to each other and then just talk fast and overwhelm the other person when they still try to clear out his "bailey" argument and thus so seeming to confuse his opponent and """ DESTROY""" them. it falls apart when you breakdown his facts in the way that Kyle tyt or Sam does alot but it works in the moment in a debate and especially against someone who gets emotionally hurt by his "Motte" ( opening controversial statement) or someone who is just not perpared and doesnt know about these type of tactics.

  14. Ben Shapiro pretends to be a supporter of free speech. This is why destroying him is so easy. Ben is a Zionist who supports Anti Semitic Speech Laws…which is why he can easily be destroyed in any debate. "I support free speech. You can say whatever you want but if its anti semitic I want you in prison!" – Ben Shapiro… He will not bite the kosher cabal's hand that feeds him. Ask Ben to publicly denounce anti semitic speech laws and condemn Israel for having them…lol….good luck.

  15. He is a propagandist who doesn't think for himself hes funded and has his talking points given to him ,it's easy to talk fast and to look smart when you don't really do any thinking yourself you're merely a messenger…

  16. you are stating that Ben Shapiro is a manipulative cynical speaker? wrapping listener around his finger…why he is not investigate?

  17. He says facts don't care about your feeling but, 90% of the time only quotes onesided studies when there's actually plenty of studies to debunk half the crapnhe says. Also, lets take a view point and stretch it to the most extreme of examples to destroy our opponents.

  18. Until you ask him to elaborate why a country that is over 22 trillion in debt should remain in at least a handful of foreign conflicts. To the conservatives who argue for small government, we should be consistent and be anti-war. Argue for a small military as well.

  19. Ben is so talented that when faced with adversarial questions from a conservative interviewer, he melted like a snowflake live on air. There’s a reason he dodges debates with Kyle Kulinski, Sam Seder, and other lefty Youtubers. He knows that they would end his career because he couldn’t weasel his way out of them blasting him

  20. So rather than debating to find truth, this dude is just a cheap skate liar? Doesnt matter if he is logically correct in a debate? That's called dictatorship, propoganda and charisma, so in turn this style of debate is foolishness, it doesnt even have any educational purpose, a debate should be for the better good, to evaluate all sides, all points inorder to find the truth about a topic….

  21. You must read Arthur Schopenhauer about "The Art of Being Right", then watch this video for concrete example. Well done.

  22. He's not dominant in conversations. His debate tricks might work on hyperventilating teenagers or SJWs, but have him in a room with a seasoned conversationalist, interviewer, or debater with any substantive knowledge and there's nothing really special about him. Except for that penchant for talking real fast.

  23. Biggest reason for Ben winning debates, he debates lesser minds and punches down. Any time he's debated anyone with a brain he usually doesn't do well. Case in point the BBC debate style interview with Andrew Neil. Ben the baby's buzzwords and memorized talking points didn't do the trick so he had a temper tantrum and left. He wins debates with college students and news anchors with high school debate club tricks but he fumbles with anyone of intellectual merit.

    His biggest problem is his logic is completely paradoxical and contradicts itself to no end. For example he is religious but will only use secular arguments because secular logic is truth seeking but yet he does not apply that to his religious views. Which directly leads to my next point. He is against abortion because upon conception life is made and he's no murderer, this is obviously steeped in his religious beliefs. But then he also always goes on about defending and being in control of your own life and liberty, going on about the US constitution being paramount above all else. Well in the US until you are property of your parents until you are an adult and are not officially a person until you have the paperwork of a birth certificate. There are many ways to prove abortion is constitutional. (personally I'm not advocating for either point in regards to abortion I'm just pointing out his flaw in logic so don't @ me about abortion) Ben is about the constitution but not of it. And he picks and chooses his logic processes when it suits his opinion.

  24. Look you could save a lot of time and effort by making this list one item long because that's as long as it needs to be.

    How is Ben shapiro so dominant in debates?

    Simple, he makes sure he is the MOST factually informed person in the room. In other words……he is smarter than most and he remains unabashedly honest.

    That's literally all it takes, and also why liberals never stand a chance against him (or any conservative ftm)

  25. Yes he is good, specialy whit the foreigners chek how good he was against a brithis reported of bbc was so dominan then he walks away n got prety anger…hahaha yes he did

  26. Ouch! Charlie Houpert badly needs education. His idea about “snuck premise” is flawed. He’s attempting to summarize “language control” but does it poorly. The bottom line is, language is important. For instance, “pro choice” sounds nicer than “in favor of murdering innocent life.” Charlie Houpert needs to accept this reality.

  27. what does "a contented point as a given" means? i've tried looking for the answer on google, dictionary, etc but couldn't really get what it means. can someone help me?

  28. He's never struck me as dominant and is frequently sloppy. For instance, he once said something in the DSM-5 didn't make sense (nevermind he's not qualified to make that determination) and another time said a term was just "made up" by the left (nevermind it wasn't as he quoted, and thereby contradictef himself, a book proving it wasn't just "made up"). He does speak fast with good vocal inflections and sounds confident but his facts and logic skills are wanting.

  29. Shapiro is an educated bully who attacks uneducated bullies that conform to political correctness.

    He coined the phrase, "Facts do not care about your feelings."

    However … facts are merely perceived to be correct – because statistical information is created by those who do not acknowledge the difference between direct and indirect evidence.

    Shapiro may win debates after studying statistics – but that doesn't make him right.

    Truth does not debate the delusional.

  30. I have to say, the way to guarantee a win in an argument is to only argue if your right. As in you have the right answer. Pick your fights

  31. I simply must say, “Do not fix what isn’t broken”. Within society, we must focus on the biggest issues at hand.

  32. this video has so many assumptions of intent on Ben Shapiro part and representing interpretations of certain contexts and ending the video saying even if youre wrong very obvious what this video was about lol

  33. everything said against a certain state or people will be view as racism ,censure and laws are enacted to suppress the obvious ,then ben can go selling'' his truth'' to an audience willing to accept anything ready to snitch and blacklist any '' nazi''….
    If you are not allowed to tell the truth ,viewed as politically incorrect ,why then debate some one whose savvy media minions, coaches , trainers will use dirt personally against you ? killing babies ,really ? ben ,those uranium laced ammo should be dealt ASAP…

  34. I love arguing and I think the best way to beat someone in a debate is to make all of their points mean nothing. Make it seem like what they are saying doesn’t matter, and what you are saying is important.

  35. If the other person starts mocking you. That means you have won.
    If the other person is repeating their same points. That means you have won.
    Know This people so that your arguments don’t last forever.

  36. Ben Shapiro is nowhere near as conservative as people make him out to be. I just think he's always willing to state the facts no matter what and that makes him feel like a conservative in the eyes of others.

  37. I generally agree with him I'd love to hear him try and explain what he thinks is so brave about being in the military. I'm afraid that would be a debate which would be impossible for him to win.

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